Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446
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Henry Irving said:supaclive said:Whilst we are in need of a right back, bringing in somebody who already it appears, has an acknowledged issue that will need managing and could flare up from time to time is not the sanest thing we could do.
I know we need to build a squad, but sadly we also have to realise that Dobson and CBT can leave on a free at the end of this season too and without them, I'm suggesting we'd have no more than one point this season...... at best
It could be the case but none of us has seen the medical report.
It could that like a MOT there was a small potential issue that they have monitored and have sent him to a specialist to check.
And while we definitely need a striker or two we do need a right back.
Dabo has played more than 25 games a season with Coventry in the championship over the last three seasons so is clearly good enough on the pitch.
Yes, it is a risk but so is every signing.
If it's true that he was sent to a specialist and that he's been training with us for weeks that suggests that the club were take extra precautions.
Or if you are as jaded as some on this thread it suggests we couldn't find anyone better.
I'm far from convinced as yet by the new management set up but some of the OTT vitriol I'm reading here is masking legitimate concerns.
Harking back to when Curbs left is irrelevant. Yes, it's been a long, hard decline but we are where we are now and the current management team (AS, CM, JR and DH) need to solve the problems, it doesn't matter when they began.
As usual @Garrymanilow makes some considered points but while a full rebuild will take more than one window we do need to see some solid foundations put in place in this one. I'm not sure they have done that yet but I expect more bodies in when/if we move some out.
One or two signings will not solve the problem - needs a plan that is credible and fans will support.
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thenewbie said:BigDiddy said:sam3110 said:Again, only way to 'flip' the club is to make it more valuable, only way to make it more valuable is to get us promoted, and then promoted again or at the very least challenging the top 6 in the Championship.
If you have a problem with them trying to flip the club in a few years time because that's what's happened, then that's only a good thing?!
They might end up losing a lot of money and we might end up in another crisis.
No problem with them flipping the club, but that will need a plan, good management and investment.
What they have is a loss making football operation, so making it valuable will need a team that will fill the Valley.
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Any rumours?1
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BigDiddy said:sam3110 said:Again, only way to 'flip' the club is to make it more valuable, only way to make it more valuable is to get us promoted, and then promoted again or at the very least challenging the top 6 in the Championship.
If you have a problem with them trying to flip the club in a few years time because that's what's happened, then that's only a good thing?!
They might end up losing a lot of money and we might end up in another crisis.
No problem with them flipping the club, but that will need a plan, good management and investment.
What they have is a loss making football operation, so making it valuable will need a team that will fill the Valley.
RD wasnt a football person he was a politician that decided he could do football differently with a network of clubs that shared information and players on the cheap, and put in place people like KM and TD who weren't suited to run/work for a club like us.
The less said about both ESI groups the better, none of them were actually competent to run a bath, let alone a football club.
TS put people like his son and his wife/girlfriend/fuck buddy in charge of many things and didn't see fit to hire anyone else for the SMT until very late on in his tenure.
This lot have people who have ran clubs before, who are ex professional footballers, ex managers, people who have been there and done that.
They have been here 4 weeks, that's nowhere near enough time to judge if they're doing to be a success or not.
But fuck me if the whining on here doesn't look like a bunch of entitled, spoilt brats that throw toys out of the pram constantly, it's tiresome.
I'd like nothing more than for them to come out, lay out a 5 year plan in front of us all, like the wankers beforehand, but then actually manage to follow through with it, but it's not going to work like that.
I'd also like them to just go and spunk £15m up the wall on players for us to absolutely walk the league and give us a really strong foundation for next season, but again it's not going to work like that.
But hey let's all sit on a football forum and constantly moan and complain and vent our spleens every day because that's going to make all the difference isn't it?23 -
BigDiddy said:TeeC said:PragueAddick said:I am of course not advocating signing players with a serious, determinable above-average risk.
But from the comments above it would appear nobody criticising this possible signing has ever been responsible for signing talent (as opposed to someone to do a routine job), in a highly competitive market, with a tight deadline and where an empty chair is not an acceptable outcome.
These guys are not fans, have no empathy with the club and I doubt that most of the consortium will ever bother to visit the Valley. Buying a football club is not “Public Life”!!
Next you will be telling Man U fans to feel sorry for the Glazers !Looking at some of comments I’d suggest some patience until the end of the window - there’s plenty of time to lose our shit after that if doesn’t pan out.3 -
Covered_End_Lad said:The other option is that the club has put the Dabo story out there to put pressure on Sess to sign. I am sure Sess is the first choice option and Dabo is the back up but I’d be happy with either tbh.2
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Summer transfer rumours please.
Surely we've all read enough hysterical ranting?25 -
BigDiddy said:ken_shabby said:ShootersHillGuru said:superdulvertonred said:Seen all three league games and still much more optimistic about this season than the last few. No doubt we need a few quality additions but the basis of a good team for this league is here just need the injured to return and the new signings to arrive. COYR
I know another two seasons at this level is going to be a pain in the arse at times, but getting ready to start complaining again six weeks into the new season when Aneke is injured and so is the back up we signed on loan from Palace is just to keep us in the same miserable spiral we have been in for years. Demanding instant results is great if you have the money to do it, but most of what I read on here was that we wanted the club stabilised and then to push on.
The owners mouthpiece is Methven, who is gobby and condescending and that will be a huge problem.
If they want the Valley to fill up, they need to give the fans hope. Otherwise, they will lose money like Roland and Sandgaard. My impression is they want to “flip” the club after a few years and if that’s the plan, they should tell us. Likewise, if they have no money [or not enough] then again it better we know.
No wants instant results, but what we do want is clarity about how they will turn it around.
Early signs are no good.
Do you mind my asking for who he poses a huge problem. Is that the fans, owners, management, players, media, or all?
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The one message that has been put out by all involved with running our club now has been actions over words, so fingers crossed we soon see more of those actions.
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I'd be happy with Sess or Dabo , 2 very good options for this level6
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sam3110 said:BigDiddy said:sam3110 said:Again, only way to 'flip' the club is to make it more valuable, only way to make it more valuable is to get us promoted, and then promoted again or at the very least challenging the top 6 in the Championship.
If you have a problem with them trying to flip the club in a few years time because that's what's happened, then that's only a good thing?!
They might end up losing a lot of money and we might end up in another crisis.
No problem with them flipping the club, but that will need a plan, good management and investment.
What they have is a loss making football operation, so making it valuable will need a team that will fill the Valley.
RD wasnt a football person he was a politician that decided he could do football differently with a network of clubs that shared information and players on the cheap, and put in place people like KM and TD who weren't suited to run/work for a club like us.
The less said about both ESI groups the better, none of them were actually competent to run a bath, let alone a football club.
TS put people like his son and his wife/girlfriend/fuck buddy in charge of many things and didn't see fit to hire anyone else for the SMT until very late on in his tenure.
This lot have people who have ran clubs before, who are ex professional footballers, ex managers, people who have been there and done that.
They have been here 4 weeks, that's nowhere near enough time to judge if they're doing to be a success or not.
But fuck me if the whining on here doesn't look like a bunch of entitled, spoilt brats that throw toys out of the pram constantly, it's tiresome.
I'd like nothing more than for them to come out, lay out a 5 year plan in front of us all, like the wankers beforehand, but then actually manage to follow through with it, but it's not going to work like that.
I'd also like them to just go and spunk £15m up the wall on players for us to absolutely walk the league and give us a really strong foundation for next season, but again it's not going to work like that.
But hey let's all sit on a football forum and constantly moan and complain and vent our spleens every day because that's going to make all the difference isn't it?10 -
superdulvertonred said:Any rumours?Not sure how legitimate the source is, I’ve heard he’s very contrary?1
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sam3110 said:BigDiddy said:sam3110 said:Again, only way to 'flip' the club is to make it more valuable, only way to make it more valuable is to get us promoted, and then promoted again or at the very least challenging the top 6 in the Championship.
If you have a problem with them trying to flip the club in a few years time because that's what's happened, then that's only a good thing?!
They might end up losing a lot of money and we might end up in another crisis.
No problem with them flipping the club, but that will need a plan, good management and investment.
What they have is a loss making football operation, so making it valuable will need a team that will fill the Valley.
RD wasnt a football person he was a politician that decided he could do football differently with a network of clubs that shared information and players on the cheap, and put in place people like KM and TD who weren't suited to run/work for a club like us.
The less said about both ESI groups the better, none of them were actually competent to run a bath, let alone a football club.
TS put people like his son and his wife/girlfriend/fuck buddy in charge of many things and didn't see fit to hire anyone else for the SMT until very late on in his tenure.
This lot have people who have ran clubs before, who are ex professional footballers, ex managers, people who have been there and done that.
They have been here 4 weeks, that's nowhere near enough time to judge if they're doing to be a success or not.
But fuck me if the whining on here doesn't look like a bunch of entitled, spoilt brats that throw toys out of the pram constantly, it's tiresome.
I'd like nothing more than for them to come out, lay out a 5 year plan in front of us all, like the wankers beforehand, but then actually manage to follow through with it, but it's not going to work like that.
I'd also like them to just go and spunk £15m up the wall on players for us to absolutely walk the league and give us a really strong foundation for next season, but again it's not going to work like that.
But hey let's all sit on a football forum and constantly moan and complain and vent our spleens every day because that's going to make all the difference isn't it?
They have had charge of CAFC for less than a month, that is no time at all.2 -
A forward is close according to the other site0
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MrBurns said:A forward is close according to the other site0
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Todds_right_hook said:MrBurns said:A forward is close according to the other site
Cosgrove but competition from Blackpool and " one other that hasn't been mentioned anywhere"0 -
golfaddick said:ken_shabby said:ShootersHillGuru said:superdulvertonred said:Seen all three league games and still much more optimistic about this season than the last few. No doubt we need a few quality additions but the basis of a good team for this league is here just need the injured to return and the new signings to arrive. COYR
I know another two seasons at this level is going to be a pain in the arse at times, but getting ready to start complaining again six weeks into the new season when Aneke is injured and so is the back up we signed on loan from Palace is just to keep us in the same miserable spiral we have been in for years. Demanding instant results is great if you have the money to do it, but most of what I read on here was that we wanted the club stabilised and then to push on.
Time is of the essence. The time is now.0 -
MarcusH26 said:Todds_right_hook said:MrBurns said:A forward is close according to the other site
Cosgrove but competition from Blackpool and " one other that hasn't been mentioned anywhere"1 -
WHAddick said:MarcusH26 said:Todds_right_hook said:MrBurns said:A forward is close according to the other site
Cosgrove but competition from Blackpool and " one other that hasn't been mentioned anywhere"
Sorry didn't make it clear but the latter .0 -
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MarcusH26 said:Todds_right_hook said:MrBurns said:A forward is close according to the other site
Cosgrove but competition from Blackpool and " one other that hasn't been mentioned anywhere"
Cynicism aside given we apparently had a few of the Consortium turn up to watch us get turned over by Bristol then I genuinely wouldn't be amazed if that hasn't maybe opened a few eyes (and wallets) and our striker search suddenly became a bit more urgent. (NOT ITK - purely speculative.)3 -
thenewbie said:MarcusH26 said:Todds_right_hook said:MrBurns said:A forward is close according to the other site
Cosgrove but competition from Blackpool and " one other that hasn't been mentioned anywhere"
Cynicism aside given we apparently had a few of the Consortium turn up to watch us get turned over by Bristol bloody City then I genuinely wouldn't be amazed if that hasn't maybe opened a few eyes (and wallets) and our striker search suddenly became a bit more urgent. (NOT ITK - purely speculative.)3 -
https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-united-chairman-tells-striker-suitors-to-put-money-where-your-mouth-is-and-the-latest-on-ronnie-edwards-and-kabongo-tshimanga-4258422
Clarke-Harris, who scored his first goal of the season in the impressive win at Barnsley on Tuesday, is on the transfer list.
MacAnthony said: “Two clubs from League One are intertested in ‘Jonno’ and a third club has just come out of nowhere.
“But I have a figure I want for him and if it isn’t met he will stay here. I’m being realistic. I’m not asking for three to four million, but you are trying to buy the best goalscorer outside the Championship. He’s the GOAT (Greatest Of All-Time) in League One.
"I paid a substantial sum for ‘Jonno’ to help us get promotion and he’s at his peak now so put your money where your mouth is if you want him.”
Clarke-Harris (29) is in the last year of his current Posh contract. He’s scored 75 goals in 151 (18 as a substitute) appearances for Posh since transferring for around £1 million from Bristol Rovers in August, 2020.
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Callumcafc said:https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/peterborough-united/peterborough-united-chairman-tells-striker-suitors-to-put-money-where-your-mouth-is-and-the-latest-on-ronnie-edwards-and-kabongo-tshimanga-4258422
Clarke-Harris, who scored his first goal of the season in the impressive win at Barnsley on Tuesday, is on the transfer list.
MacAnthony said: “Two clubs from League One are intertested in ‘Jonno’ and a third club has just come out of nowhere.
“But I have a figure I want for him and if it isn’t met he will stay here. I’m being realistic. I’m not asking for three to four million, but you are trying to buy the best goalscorer outside the Championship. He’s the GOAT (Greatest Of All-Time) in League One.
"I paid a substantial sum for ‘Jonno’ to help us get promotion and he’s at his peak now so put your money where your mouth is if you want him.”
Clarke-Harris (29) is in the last year of his current Posh contract. He’s scored 75 goals in 151 (18 as a substitute) appearances for Posh since transferring for around £1 million from Bristol Rovers in August, 2020.
Sounds like he is looking for around 2 million then. Not sure if that's realistic for us at all. Or anyone in this league for that matter.
Not surprised Ronnie Edwards has premier league interest, think he's class3 -
swordfish said:BigDiddy said:ken_shabby said:ShootersHillGuru said:superdulvertonred said:Seen all three league games and still much more optimistic about this season than the last few. No doubt we need a few quality additions but the basis of a good team for this league is here just need the injured to return and the new signings to arrive. COYR
I know another two seasons at this level is going to be a pain in the arse at times, but getting ready to start complaining again six weeks into the new season when Aneke is injured and so is the back up we signed on loan from Palace is just to keep us in the same miserable spiral we have been in for years. Demanding instant results is great if you have the money to do it, but most of what I read on here was that we wanted the club stabilised and then to push on.
The owners mouthpiece is Methven, who is gobby and condescending and that will be a huge problem.
If they want the Valley to fill up, they need to give the fans hope. Otherwise, they will lose money like Roland and Sandgaard. My impression is they want to “flip” the club after a few years and if that’s the plan, they should tell us. Likewise, if they have no money [or not enough] then again it better we know.
No wants instant results, but what we do want is clarity about how they will turn it around.
Early signs are no good.
Do you mind my asking for who he poses a huge problem. Is that the fans, owners, management, players, media, or all?
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willieduff said:sam3110 said:BigDiddy said:sam3110 said:Again, only way to 'flip' the club is to make it more valuable, only way to make it more valuable is to get us promoted, and then promoted again or at the very least challenging the top 6 in the Championship.
If you have a problem with them trying to flip the club in a few years time because that's what's happened, then that's only a good thing?!
They might end up losing a lot of money and we might end up in another crisis.
No problem with them flipping the club, but that will need a plan, good management and investment.
What they have is a loss making football operation, so making it valuable will need a team that will fill the Valley.
RD wasnt a football person he was a politician that decided he could do football differently with a network of clubs that shared information and players on the cheap, and put in place people like KM and TD who weren't suited to run/work for a club like us.
The less said about both ESI groups the better, none of them were actually competent to run a bath, let alone a football club.
TS put people like his son and his wife/girlfriend/fuck buddy in charge of many things and didn't see fit to hire anyone else for the SMT until very late on in his tenure.
This lot have people who have ran clubs before, who are ex professional footballers, ex managers, people who have been there and done that.
They have been here 4 weeks, that's nowhere near enough time to judge if they're doing to be a success or not.
But fuck me if the whining on here doesn't look like a bunch of entitled, spoilt brats that throw toys out of the pram constantly, it's tiresome.
I'd like nothing more than for them to come out, lay out a 5 year plan in front of us all, like the wankers beforehand, but then actually manage to follow through with it, but it's not going to work like that.
I'd also like them to just go and spunk £15m up the wall on players for us to absolutely walk the league and give us a really strong foundation for next season, but again it's not going to work like that.
But hey let's all sit on a football forum and constantly moan and complain and vent our spleens every day because that's going to make all the difference isn't it?
They have had charge of CAFC for less than a month, that is no time at all.0 -
sam3110 said:BigDiddy said:sam3110 said:Again, only way to 'flip' the club is to make it more valuable, only way to make it more valuable is to get us promoted, and then promoted again or at the very least challenging the top 6 in the Championship.
If you have a problem with them trying to flip the club in a few years time because that's what's happened, then that's only a good thing?!
They might end up losing a lot of money and we might end up in another crisis.
No problem with them flipping the club, but that will need a plan, good management and investment.
What they have is a loss making football operation, so making it valuable will need a team that will fill the Valley.
RD wasnt a football person he was a politician that decided he could do football differently with a network of clubs that shared information and players on the cheap, and put in place people like KM and TD who weren't suited to run/work for a club like us.
The less said about both ESI groups the better, none of them were actually competent to run a bath, let alone a football club.
TS put people like his son and his wife/girlfriend/fuck buddy in charge of many things and didn't see fit to hire anyone else for the SMT until very late on in his tenure.
This lot have people who have ran clubs before, who are ex professional footballers, ex managers, people who have been there and done that.
They have been here 4 weeks, that's nowhere near enough time to judge if they're doing to be a success or not.
But fuck me if the whining on here doesn't look like a bunch of entitled, spoilt brats that throw toys out of the pram constantly, it's tiresome.
I'd like nothing more than for them to come out, lay out a 5 year plan in front of us all, like the wankers beforehand, but then actually manage to follow through with it, but it's not going to work like that.
I'd also like them to just go and spunk £15m up the wall on players for us to absolutely walk the league and give us a really strong foundation for next season, but again it's not going to work like that.
But hey let's all sit on a football forum and constantly moan and complain and vent our spleens every day because that's going to make all the difference isn't it?
Maybe some of us have seen this all too often at Charlton hence the cynicism.
Tiresome it is.1 -
TeeC said:BigDiddy said:TeeC said:PragueAddick said:I am of course not advocating signing players with a serious, determinable above-average risk.
But from the comments above it would appear nobody criticising this possible signing has ever been responsible for signing talent (as opposed to someone to do a routine job), in a highly competitive market, with a tight deadline and where an empty chair is not an acceptable outcome.
These guys are not fans, have no empathy with the club and I doubt that most of the consortium will ever bother to visit the Valley. Buying a football club is not “Public Life”!!
Next you will be telling Man U fans to feel sorry for the Glazers !Looking at some of comments I’d suggest some patience until the end of the window - there’s plenty of time to lose our shit after that if doesn’t pan out.TeeC said:BigDiddy said:TeeC said:PragueAddick said:I am of course not advocating signing players with a serious, determinable above-average risk.
But from the comments above it would appear nobody criticising this possible signing has ever been responsible for signing talent (as opposed to someone to do a routine job), in a highly competitive market, with a tight deadline and where an empty chair is not an acceptable outcome.
These guys are not fans, have no empathy with the club and I doubt that most of the consortium will ever bother to visit the Valley. Buying a football club is not “Public Life”!!
Next you will be telling Man U fans to feel sorry for the Glazers !Looking at some of comments I’d suggest some patience until the end of the window - there’s plenty of time to lose our shit after that if doesn’t pan out.
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Should be pulling out all the stops to get JCH.2
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MrBurns said:A forward is close according to the other site
You sure that's not the other "side"...🤔1