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Patrick Casey signs a 3-year pro contract

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  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,960
    Hal1x said:
    His celebrations are a bit naff... Get rid
    and take the cameraman with him.
    Who is the winger providing all the crosses? We haven’t had one of those for years. 
  • Swisdom said:
    Patrick is not too dissimilar to Daniel Kanu AT THAT AGE  from the times I have seen him play.

    Not especially pacy, doesn't appear to have a trick up his sleeve but the hardest part of the game, finishing, he is VERY good at.  His instincts are good and that's  something that can't really be taught.

    Daniel is improving his game and getting bigger and stronger so I would expect the same to come from Patrick in due course.

    Certainly an exciting talent and one we should continue to monitor and manage but not rush to put pressure on him
    How would you compare them to, say, Charlie MacDonald at that age?
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,838
    The way Patrick took those chances reminded me a bit of Clive Mendonca. Quick on the turn, able to get shots off from unexpected angles,  good shot placement. Hope he continues to develop well.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    sm said:
    Hal1x said:
    His celebrations are a bit naff... Get rid
    and take the cameraman with him.
    Who is the winger providing all the crosses? We haven’t had one of those for years. 
    #7 is Henry Rylah.  Very tricky and quick with decent delivery.

    The cross for the header looks like Jason Adigun but it's hard to tell as it was filmed on a potato in a box and my internet is unstable at the moment
  • Swisdom said:
    sm said:
    Hal1x said:
    His celebrations are a bit naff... Get rid
    and take the cameraman with him.
    Who is the winger providing all the crosses? We haven’t had one of those for years. 
    #7 is Henry Rylah.  Very tricky and quick with decent delivery.

    The cross for the header looks like Jason Adigun but it's hard to tell as it was filmed on a potato in a box and my internet is unstable at the moment
    Twitter reported that the fourth (?) was from a Adigun cross
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    Swisdom said:
    Patrick is not too dissimilar to Clive Mendonca AT THAT AGE .......

    Not especially pacy, doesn't appear to have a trick up his sleeve but the hardest part of the game, finishing, he is VERY good at.  His instincts are good and that's  something that can't really be taught.
    That's what I first thought you said.  :)
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Swisdom said:
    sm said:
    Hal1x said:
    His celebrations are a bit naff... Get rid
    and take the cameraman with him.
    Who is the winger providing all the crosses? We haven’t had one of those for years. 
    #7 is Henry Rylah.  Very tricky and quick with decent delivery.

    The cross for the header looks like Jason Adigun but it's hard to tell as it was filmed on a potato in a box and my internet is unstable at the moment
    Twitter reported that the fourth (?) was from a Adigun cross
    There is a decent case to be made that Adigun played better than Casey yesterday.
    Mind you, five goals…….
  • seth plum said:
    Swisdom said:
    sm said:
    Hal1x said:
    His celebrations are a bit naff... Get rid
    and take the cameraman with him.
    Who is the winger providing all the crosses? We haven’t had one of those for years. 
    #7 is Henry Rylah.  Very tricky and quick with decent delivery.

    The cross for the header looks like Jason Adigun but it's hard to tell as it was filmed on a potato in a box and my internet is unstable at the moment
    Twitter reported that the fourth (?) was from a Adigun cross
    There is a decent case to be made that Adigun played better than Casey yesterday.
    Mind you, five goals…….
    I too like Adigun. Got in free yesterday via season ticket - what a bargain ! 10 goals, red card, non stop ! More tonight please 1st team .........................................
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,064
    Am surprised we haven't seen Adigun in the first team yet either. Guess a bit of a logjam of CMs doesn't really help him but someone I would have expected to have made a EFL Trophy squad by now 

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  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,577
    MarcusH26 said:
    Am surprised we haven't seen Adigun in the first team yet either. Guess a bit of a logjam of CMs doesn't really help him but someone I would have expected to have made a EFL Trophy squad by now 
    maybe a loan to a national League or NLSouth would be better with a decent run of 1st team games in "mens football" 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,064
    Kap10 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Am surprised we haven't seen Adigun in the first team yet either. Guess a bit of a logjam of CMs doesn't really help him but someone I would have expected to have made a EFL Trophy squad by now 
    maybe a loan to a national League or NLSouth would be better with a decent run of 1st team games in "mens football" 

    Probably for the best to get him probably a similar loan to Anderson at Aldershot last season or the multiple spells Aaron Henry had at Wealdstone. 
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    Scoham said:
    An absolutely wonderful array of finishes there. Let's hope we send him to non-league soon. Want to see what he does with far less time and space. But as Swisdom said, reminds me of Kanu. Lots of goals in the U18s, but the rest of his game needs work and there's a question of how will that finishing translate to men's football. 

    I expect Casey, Rylah, Kedwell, and Adigun will all go out on loan to non league this season, maybe once we're out of the cups.  
  • I feel like he’ll be like a Jordan Rhodes type. No part of his physicality is outstanding, but he can find space, anticipate where the ball is going to land and ultimately, finish. That’s the part of the game you cannot teach
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,242
    edited November 2023
    Appleton has mentioned wanting strikers who are able to do more without the ball, run into space and run behind.

    I think that is one reason Mbick has been featuring rather than Casey.

    I think @swisdom is spot on with his comparison between Kanu and Casey at the same stage of their development.  

    Both are great finishers who come alive in the box and benefit from playing in very attack minded sides in the 18s and 21s

    Both probably need to improve the other side of their game off the ball, hold up play, etc.

    Dylan Gavin was another prolific striker who, for whatever reason, didn't step up so it's not guaranteed.

    Rylah is a real prospect but contrary to what a poster said we've had another good winger recently called T Campbell. 

    Not seen him in the  U21s recently so not sure what happened to him
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,282
    edited November 2023
    I wonder if M'bick has signed a contract. A risk putting him near the first team without that.

    I think Adigun's expires this summer, if not involved he will be thinking about a move for game time...do we have sufficient power to say a loan hinges on signing an extension? Probably not with 6months to go. Shame to lose him.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,388
    Adigun’s 20 in December, maybe he’s not progressed as hoped?
  • Ready or not he can't be worse than watching Tedic.
  • Ready or not he can't be worse than watching Tedic.
    Completely agree, Tedic can't run in behind, doesn't win much in the air, can't finish and his hold up play isn't great. Would much rather use a youngster or a change in formation/style than watch Tedic up front on his own.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,242
    "Pat" got a name check in MA's post match interview as did Mbick although he added he didn't want to rely on the kids.

    He praised "Teddy".

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  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    "Pat" got a name check in MA's post match interview as did Mbick although he added he didn't want to rely on the kids.

    He praised "Teddy".
    I agree - Tedic made a difference with his physicality.  Casey would have been gobbled up by Davies at this stage of his career but Tedic stood up to him a bit more
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,388
    Ready or not he can't be worse than watching Tedic.
    Finishing probably not, rest of his game he could definitely be worse. Tedic didn’t impress but if we’re going to play Casey in the first team it can’t be as a lone striker. Physicality is probably why Mbick got on the bench ahead of him.
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    Swisdom said:
    "Pat" got a name check in MA's post match interview as did Mbick although he added he didn't want to rely on the kids.

    He praised "Teddy".
    I agree - Tedic made a difference with his physicality.  Casey would have been gobbled up by Davies at this stage of his career but Tedic stood up to him a bit more
    I thought Tedic did well when he come on last night, looked a handful! Could have scored at least one.
  • "Pat" got a name check in MA's post match interview as did Mbick although he added he didn't want to rely on the kids.

    He praised "Teddy".
    Understandable... We've seen what can happen when the kids are thrown in far too early as well - Nice to know though that Appleton is fully aware of Casey at the very least.
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    Swisdom said:
    "Pat" got a name check in MA's post match interview as did Mbick although he added he didn't want to rely on the kids.

    He praised "Teddy".
    I agree - Tedic made a difference with his physicality.  Casey would have been gobbled up by Davies at this stage of his career but Tedic stood up to him a bit more
    I thought Tedic did well when he come on last night, looked a handful! Could have scored at least one.
    But didn't because he skied it from 4 yards out!
    His effort was there but he has looked ineffectual every time I have seen him.

  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,206
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Swisdom said:
    "Pat" got a name check in MA's post match interview as did Mbick although he added he didn't want to rely on the kids.

    He praised "Teddy".
    I agree - Tedic made a difference with his physicality.  Casey would have been gobbled up by Davies at this stage of his career but Tedic stood up to him a bit more
    I thought Tedic did well when he come on last night, looked a handful! Could have scored at least one.
    But didn't because he skied it from 4 yards out!
    His effort was there but he has looked ineffectual every time I have seen him.

    Think the word I'd use is rusty
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Swisdom said:
    "Pat" got a name check in MA's post match interview as did Mbick although he added he didn't want to rely on the kids.

    He praised "Teddy".
    I agree - Tedic made a difference with his physicality.  Casey would have been gobbled up by Davies at this stage of his career but Tedic stood up to him a bit more
    I thought Tedic did well when he come on last night, looked a handful! Could have scored at least one.
    But didn't because he skied it from 4 yards out!
    His effort was there but he has looked ineffectual every time I have seen him.

    Yes, doesn't mean he had a bad game does it!
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Swisdom said:
    "Pat" got a name check in MA's post match interview as did Mbick although he added he didn't want to rely on the kids.

    He praised "Teddy".
    I agree - Tedic made a difference with his physicality.  Casey would have been gobbled up by Davies at this stage of his career but Tedic stood up to him a bit more
    I thought Tedic did well when he come on last night, looked a handful! Could have scored at least one.
    But didn't because he skied it from 4 yards out!
    His effort was there but he has looked ineffectual every time I have seen him.

    Yes, doesn't mean he had a bad game does it!
    Fair enough. We will agree to disagree. He skied one, was offside ruining a break for another, fell flat on his face with no one around when the ball was played to him on another break. 
    As I said, he tried and so I am not criticising as he can only do his best.  He has some physicality and tried to win headers with limited success.  For a striker I just don't see him scoring or influencing games anywhere near enough to make him worthwhile. I hope he proves me wrong.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    DubaiCAFC said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Swisdom said:
    "Pat" got a name check in MA's post match interview as did Mbick although he added he didn't want to rely on the kids.

    He praised "Teddy".
    I agree - Tedic made a difference with his physicality.  Casey would have been gobbled up by Davies at this stage of his career but Tedic stood up to him a bit more
    I thought Tedic did well when he come on last night, looked a handful! Could have scored at least one.
    But didn't because he skied it from 4 yards out!
    His effort was there but he has looked ineffectual every time I have seen him.

    Yes, doesn't mean he had a bad game does it!
    Fair enough. We will agree to disagree. He skied one, was offside ruining a break for another, fell flat on his face with no one around when the ball was played to him on another break. 
    As I said, he tried and so I am not criticising as he can only do his best.  He has some physicality and tried to win headers with limited success.  For a striker I just don't see him scoring or influencing games anywhere near enough to make him worthwhile. I hope he proves me wrong.
    I hope he does too. It seems obvious that Tedic is not a natural finisher but he's still a handful for defenders. 

    He gets in good positions, distracts defenders and creates space for team mates - but of course, being a forward is seemingly only judged on here by goals scored. 

    To hit form, every footballer needs to play and have a run of games - but Tedic hasn't really had that, has he? 
     

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Tempting though it may be, playing still 17 year old Casey in the aspirational first team at this point would be a substantial risk.