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CAST has gone back to the drawing board and worked with a small group of supporters to produce three designs for a mural to celebrate the return of the club to The Valley on December 5th 1992 - thirty one years ago today.
If sufficient funds can be raised to commission the mural it will be on the side wall of the shop - on your right as you enter the car park and opposite Valley Central.
We hope that the mural will enable younger supporters and future generations to fully appreciate the extraordinary achievement of the directors and supporters in bringing the club home. The mural will be accompanied by a plaque which will explain the background and direct people to the museum for the full story.
We want as many fans as possible to express an opinion on which design they prefer and to let us know whether they would be prepared to contribute to the funding of the installation of the successful design.
https://www.castrust.org/2023/12/vote-here-on-back-to-the-valley-mural-options/
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3 good designs!Much better than the previously mooted option…
good to have a throwback to the BTTV posters, would it be worth having a QR code that links to a video/history ?9 -
Thanks for listening!1
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That’s better!2
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Much better idea, option 2 for me4
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I voted for that option too. Very appropriate considering the location of the mural, just inside the gates.DaveMehmet said:Much better idea, option 2 for me0 -
Font is a far too small so lessens the impact but a huge improvement (couldn't be much worse)
The traffic problem poster could be used almost as it for the current parking problem
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Option 3, the ground & balloons for me.
Option 1 Alwen/gates a close second.
Option 2 Sam Bartram a non runner for me as nothing really to do with THE DAY.9 -
Any chance of posting the pics on here in a larger scale? I can hardly see the bloody things and no way (I can see) of enlarging them.1
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Option two (gates) mural, but with the wording from option 3 (balloons).0
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Option 2 for me, also put in the comments a request for Banksy to do the artwork :-)0
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Quite a change from the initial design - well done CAST..
Voted for 1 (Sam Bartram). It shows the Valley in its heyday (40,000 on the east terrace) alongside one of our greatest names. Both are powerful elements of our history - the balloon and the gate images don't give a sense of scale or our longer history. That's relevant because there is now a bigger gap between our return in 1992 to today (31 years) than between Bartram's last game and us leaving in 1985 (29 years)...
I also think the caption at the bottom misses a lot by focusing on the number of votes in the election. The election was but one part of a long campaign (albeit a significant part). Rather I think a short quote capturing a wider mood would be more appropriate:-"Through the actions and ingenuity of our fans, we returned to The Valley on 5th December 2023" (or words to that effect) widens the audience and is more inclusive of all of the actions that ultimately got us back.
ps Strange to launch a survey on a random Tuesday in December, but I'm sure there a rationale behind it.4 -
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Random Tuesday in December…?SporadicAddick said:Quite a change from the initial design - well done CAST..
Voted for 1. It shows the Valley in its heyday (40,000 on the east terrace) alongside one of our greatest names. Both are powerful elements of our history - the balloon and the gate images don't give a sense of scale or our longer history. That's relevant because there is now a bigger gap between our return in 1992 to today (31 years) than between Bartram's last game and us leaving in 1985 (29 years)...
I also think the caption at the bottom misses a lot by focusing on the number of votes in the election. The election was but one part of a long campaign (albeit a significant part). Rather I think a short quote capturing a wider mood would be more appropriate:-"Through the actions and ingenuity of our fans, we returned to The Valley on 5th December 2023" (or words to that effect) widens the audience and is more inclusive of all of the actions that ultimately got us back.
ps Strange to launch a survey on a random Tuesday in December, but I'm sure there a rationale behind it.
5th December is the day we Went Back To The Valley!10 -
I think you may have been whooshed there19addickted96 said:
Random Tuesday in December…?SporadicAddick said:Quite a change from the initial design - well done CAST..
Voted for 1. It shows the Valley in its heyday (40,000 on the east terrace) alongside one of our greatest names. Both are powerful elements of our history - the balloon and the gate images don't give a sense of scale or our longer history. That's relevant because there is now a bigger gap between our return in 1992 to today (31 years) than between Bartram's last game and us leaving in 1985 (29 years)...
I also think the caption at the bottom misses a lot by focusing on the number of votes in the election. The election was but one part of a long campaign (albeit a significant part). Rather I think a short quote capturing a wider mood would be more appropriate:-"Through the actions and ingenuity of our fans, we returned to The Valley on 5th December 2023" (or words to that effect) widens the audience and is more inclusive of all of the actions that ultimately got us back.
ps Strange to launch a survey on a random Tuesday in December, but I'm sure there a rationale behind it.
5th December is the day we Went Back To The Valley!
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Surely you voted for 2 Sam Bartram.SporadicAddick said:Quite a change from the initial design - well done CAST..
Voted for 1 (Sam Bartram). It shows the Valley in its heyday (40,000 on the east terrace) alongside one of our greatest names. Both are powerful elements of our history - the balloon and the gate images don't give a sense of scale or our longer history. That's relevant because there is now a bigger gap between our return in 1992 to today (31 years) than between Bartram's last game and us leaving in 1985 (29 years)...
I also think the caption at the bottom misses a lot by focusing on the number of votes in the election. The election was but one part of a long campaign (albeit a significant part). Rather I think a short quote capturing a wider mood would be more appropriate:-"Through the actions and ingenuity of our fans, we returned to The Valley on 5th December 2023" (or words to that effect) widens the audience and is more inclusive of all of the actions that ultimately got us back.
ps Strange to launch a survey on a random Tuesday in December, but I'm sure there a rationale behind it.
1 is Alwen & the gates opening.0 -
You may be right - I tried to go back in to check but couldn't...Covered End said:
Surely you voted for 2 Sam Bartram.SporadicAddick said:Quite a change from the initial design - well done CAST..
Voted for 1 (Sam Bartram). It shows the Valley in its heyday (40,000 on the east terrace) alongside one of our greatest names. Both are powerful elements of our history - the balloon and the gate images don't give a sense of scale or our longer history. That's relevant because there is now a bigger gap between our return in 1992 to today (31 years) than between Bartram's last game and us leaving in 1985 (29 years)...
I also think the caption at the bottom misses a lot by focusing on the number of votes in the election. The election was but one part of a long campaign (albeit a significant part). Rather I think a short quote capturing a wider mood would be more appropriate:-"Through the actions and ingenuity of our fans, we returned to The Valley on 5th December 2023" (or words to that effect) widens the audience and is more inclusive of all of the actions that ultimately got us back.
ps Strange to launch a survey on a random Tuesday in December, but I'm sure there a rationale behind it.
1 is Alwen & the gates opening.0 -
I was persuaded by above points to vote for Bartram option.0
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shame we have lost it again1
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It was the other way round when I votedCovered End said:
Surely you voted for 2 Sam Bartram.SporadicAddick said:Quite a change from the initial design - well done CAST..
Voted for 1 (Sam Bartram). It shows the Valley in its heyday (40,000 on the east terrace) alongside one of our greatest names. Both are powerful elements of our history - the balloon and the gate images don't give a sense of scale or our longer history. That's relevant because there is now a bigger gap between our return in 1992 to today (31 years) than between Bartram's last game and us leaving in 1985 (29 years)...
I also think the caption at the bottom misses a lot by focusing on the number of votes in the election. The election was but one part of a long campaign (albeit a significant part). Rather I think a short quote capturing a wider mood would be more appropriate:-"Through the actions and ingenuity of our fans, we returned to The Valley on 5th December 2023" (or words to that effect) widens the audience and is more inclusive of all of the actions that ultimately got us back.
ps Strange to launch a survey on a random Tuesday in December, but I'm sure there a rationale behind it.
1 is Alwen & the gates opening.
1 Bartram
2 Alwen
3 Valley on the 5/12/924 -
I thought it a little strange all the Bartram votes & nothing to do with the actual day we are meant to be remembering.killerandflash said:
It was the other way round when I votedCovered End said:
Surely you voted for 2 Sam Bartram.SporadicAddick said:Quite a change from the initial design - well done CAST..
Voted for 1 (Sam Bartram). It shows the Valley in its heyday (40,000 on the east terrace) alongside one of our greatest names. Both are powerful elements of our history - the balloon and the gate images don't give a sense of scale or our longer history. That's relevant because there is now a bigger gap between our return in 1992 to today (31 years) than between Bartram's last game and us leaving in 1985 (29 years)...
I also think the caption at the bottom misses a lot by focusing on the number of votes in the election. The election was but one part of a long campaign (albeit a significant part). Rather I think a short quote capturing a wider mood would be more appropriate:-"Through the actions and ingenuity of our fans, we returned to The Valley on 5th December 2023" (or words to that effect) widens the audience and is more inclusive of all of the actions that ultimately got us back.
ps Strange to launch a survey on a random Tuesday in December, but I'm sure there a rationale behind it.
1 is Alwen & the gates opening.
1 Bartram
2 Alwen
3 Valley on the 5/12/92
Maybe better if people commenting say they voted for Alwen/gates, Bartram or balloons/Valley?0 -
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Balloons at The Valley is just ripe for ridicule and there is already a statue to Sam so my vote went for the gates.4
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These are much more impactful. Good stuff CAST.0
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Pretty certain they weren't biodegradable balloons either, so important that we disconnect our return to The Valley with impact on wildlife.addickson said:Balloons at The Valley is just ripe for ridicule and there is already a statue to Sam so my vote went for the gates.7 -
Gates for me.0
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Balloons for me. A superb photo0
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I've just noticed the old floodlight had a 'C' lit up on it, nice.0
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I like that idea:SporadicAddick said:Quite a change from the initial design - well done CAST..
Voted for 1 (Sam Bartram). It shows the Valley in its heyday (40,000 on the east terrace) alongside one of our greatest names. Both are powerful elements of our history - the balloon and the gate images don't give a sense of scale or our longer history. That's relevant because there is now a bigger gap between our return in 1992 to today (31 years) than between Bartram's last game and us leaving in 1985 (29 years)...
I also think the caption at the bottom misses a lot by focusing on the number of votes in the election. The election was but one part of a long campaign (albeit a significant part). Rather I think a short quote capturing a wider mood would be more appropriate:-"Through the actions and ingenuity of our fans, we returned to The Valley on 5th December 2023" (or words to that effect) widens the audience and is more inclusive of all of the actions that ultimately got us back.
ps Strange to launch a survey on a random Tuesday in December, but I'm sure there a rationale behind it.
Through the direct action, passion and determination of our fans, we returned to The Valley on 5th December 1992
We can play with the words though.0 -
"Through the direct action, passion and determination of our fans AND DIRECTORS, we returned to The Valley on 5th December 1992"
I would suggest
No doubt the Valley Party was hugely significant but not the whole story
@bobmunro are you in a position to influence this?3 -
ThisCovered End said:Option 3, the ground & balloons for me.
Option 1 Alwen/gates a close second.
Option 2 Sam Bartram a non runner for me as nothing really to do with THE DAY.0 -
That feels a bit like it's diluting the simplicity of the message about fan collective action.Henry Irving said:"Through the direct action, passion and determination of our fans AND DIRECTORS, we returned to The Valley on 5th December 1992"
I would suggest
No doubt the Valley Party was hugely significant but not the whole story
@bobmunro are you in a position to influence this?
And bringing a word like 'directors' into the fold shifts the tone to sound corporate.
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