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Charlton Summer Transfer Rumours 2024

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,173
    Hopefully we are in a position to announce Mitchell today at least 
    Think that's probably done, just waiting on the green light from Millwall to announce it.
  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526
    Hoping for a good week of actual rumours, and actual transfers.
    That’s not what we do here
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,610
    I thought the pitch upgrade was because of the women’s team now playing at the Valley?
    Same as St Helens are having their pitch upgraded because Liverpool women will be playing there.
    Nothing to do with the new owners.
    Just to be clear 🧐
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,280
    I thought the pitch upgrade was because of the women’s team now playing at the Valley?
    Same as St Helens are having their pitch upgraded because Liverpool women will be playing there.
    Nothing to do with the new owners.
    Just to be clear 🧐
    The grant only covers half the costs, and they had to agree to move the women to The Valley
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    sam3110 said:
    I thought the pitch upgrade was because of the women’s team now playing at the Valley?
    Same as St Helens are having their pitch upgraded because Liverpool women will be playing there.
    Nothing to do with the new owners.
    Just to be clear 🧐
    The grant only covers half the costs, and they had to agree to move the women to The Valley
    The shortfall would have been covered by the lump sum from Sky for showing  the EFL games this coming season 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,002
    I thought the pitch upgrade was because of the women’s team now playing at the Valley?
    Same as St Helens are having their pitch upgraded because Liverpool women will be playing there.
    Nothing to do with the new owners.
    Just to be clear 🧐
    It's both I believe. The women's team playing at the Valley means extra grants etc available to get the upgraded pitch but it had still been planned and arranged for even without that. 

    (Or so I was lead to believe.)
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,173
    I thought the pitch upgrade was because of the women’s team now playing at the Valley?
    Same as St Helens are having their pitch upgraded because Liverpool women will be playing there.
    Nothing to do with the new owners.
    Just to be clear 🧐
    Bit of both, owners still have to stump up some cash. Plus, supporting the women's team by having them play at a proper stadium with a reliable pitch is a plus point for me.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,280
    shirty5 said:
    sam3110 said:
    I thought the pitch upgrade was because of the women’s team now playing at the Valley?
    Same as St Helens are having their pitch upgraded because Liverpool women will be playing there.
    Nothing to do with the new owners.
    Just to be clear 🧐
    The grant only covers half the costs, and they had to agree to move the women to The Valley
    The shortfall would have been covered by the lump sum from Sky for showing  the EFL games this coming season 
    So what covers the shortfall on the next 10 seasons of the women's team? Or the loss of revenue through people watching on Sky at home compared to coming to the stadium? It's not "nothing to do with the new owners", it's everything to do with them, regardless of whether that fits people's narratives
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    sam3110 said:
    shirty5 said:
    sam3110 said:
    I thought the pitch upgrade was because of the women’s team now playing at the Valley?
    Same as St Helens are having their pitch upgraded because Liverpool women will be playing there.
    Nothing to do with the new owners.
    Just to be clear 🧐
    The grant only covers half the costs, and they had to agree to move the women to The Valley
    The shortfall would have been covered by the lump sum from Sky for showing  the EFL games this coming season 
    So what covers the shortfall on the next 10 seasons of the women's team? Or the loss of revenue through people watching on Sky at home compared to coming to the stadium? It's not "nothing to do with the new owners", it's everything to do with them, regardless of whether that fits people's narratives
    Why you going off on one? All I have done is mention the cost of the pitch is the grant and the EFL sky money

    Stop overthinking everything 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,280
    I'm not overthinking everything, I'm explaining that it's not as simple as the grant and sky money covering it, and therefore people assuming that the new owners haven't contributed in any way, when that's false
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  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited June 2024
    For how long do we refer to the owners as "New"?, they seem to have been around for ages already.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    sam3110 said:
    I'm not overthinking everything, I'm explaining that it's not as simple as the grant and sky money covering it, and therefore people assuming that the new owners haven't contributed in any way, when that's false
    I never mentioned the owners! 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    Back to rumours, Millwall are tweeting about tickets for a preseason game, so hopefully confirmation of Mitchell’s move won’t be far away.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    I like the sound of Mitchell and hope it's confirmed soon.  Had a quick mooch around the Lincoln forum and found the following

    He's our quickest centre back, covers well, strong as an ox and has battling fearlessness. I would say that if you are playing Roughan on the left and one of Jackson/O'Connor he is one of our important three. I wouldn't ideally want to play O'C and Jacko together due to the pace issue.

    Mitchell's passing appears to have picked up judging by some of his diagonals recently, and if he can add that consistently he would be a favourable addition; with due acknowledgement to your caveat about cost.

    Just 22, already one of the best defenders in L1, must surely be a Championship player in due course. Great attitude and is clearly an intelligent lad too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAAzw9PuAic

    So basically he has a bit of a sense of humour, is as hard as nails, gets on with everyone in the team.  Sounds like a bit of a character


  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,280
    shirty5 said:
    sam3110 said:
    I'm not overthinking everything, I'm explaining that it's not as simple as the grant and sky money covering it, and therefore people assuming that the new owners haven't contributed in any way, when that's false
    I never mentioned the owners! 
    Not everything's about you
  • seth plum said:
    We are owned by over twenty billionaires who know, love and care for our club in our special corner of London.
    With those kind of resources we should clearly win automatic promotion.
    Otherwise what?
    Twenty, really?
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    sam3110 said:
    shirty5 said:
    sam3110 said:
    I'm not overthinking everything, I'm explaining that it's not as simple as the grant and sky money covering it, and therefore people assuming that the new owners haven't contributed in any way, when that's false
    I never mentioned the owners! 
    Not everything's about you
    Care to elaborate on that? 
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    seth plum said:
    We are owned by over twenty billionaires who know, love and care for our club in our special corner of London.
    With those kind of resources we should clearly win automatic promotion.
    Otherwise what?
    Twenty, really?
    We need another half dozen quick!
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    seth plum said:
    We are owned by over twenty billionaires who know, love and care for our club in our special corner of London.
    With those kind of resources we should clearly win automatic promotion.
    Otherwise what?
    Twenty, really?
    Maybe thirty.
    They are all going to participate in the ‘forum’ on Thursday, so we can judge the cut of the jib of our thirty five billionaires.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,735
    seth plum said:
    The way to judge if Jones knows what he is doing is if we secure automatic promotion at the end of the coming season.
    OK if we win the playoffs it will be acceptable.
    Anything else is failure.
    This doesn’t leave any room for the context of a season though? Birmingham and Huddersfield both have serious cash and will likely be the promoted sides, anything can happen in the playoffs with Posh, Rotherham and Bolton all still being here. I don’t think it’s a case that if we don’t get promoted it has been a failure of a season. 
    Anything but promotion is a failure.
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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,627
    shirty5 said:
    sam3110 said:
    I thought the pitch upgrade was because of the women’s team now playing at the Valley?
    Same as St Helens are having their pitch upgraded because Liverpool women will be playing there.
    Nothing to do with the new owners.
    Just to be clear 🧐
    The grant only covers half the costs, and they had to agree to move the women to The Valley
    The shortfall would have been covered by the lump sum from Sky for showing  the EFL games this coming season 
    Does it ? Where in the EFL deal does it say that increased revenues for clubs need to be spent on the pitch ? Yes the club got more money from the Sky deal but it was the club that elected to spend it on Stadium infrastructure. 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    edited June 2024
    shirty5 said:
    sam3110 said:
    I thought the pitch upgrade was because of the women’s team now playing at the Valley?
    Same as St Helens are having their pitch upgraded because Liverpool women will be playing there.
    Nothing to do with the new owners.
    Just to be clear 🧐
    The grant only covers half the costs, and they had to agree to move the women to The Valley
    The shortfall would have been covered by the lump sum from Sky for showing  the EFL games this coming season 
    Does it ? Where in the EFL deal does it say that increased revenues for clubs need to be spent on the pitch ? Yes the club got more money from the Sky deal but it was the club that elected to spend it on Stadium infrastructure. 
    Do the maths. Pitch 1.2m.
     Grant 750k Sky Money 450k


  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,505
    Croydon said:
    seth plum said:
    The way to judge if Jones knows what he is doing is if we secure automatic promotion at the end of the coming season.
    OK if we win the playoffs it will be acceptable.
    Anything else is failure.
    This doesn’t leave any room for the context of a season though? Birmingham and Huddersfield both have serious cash and will likely be the promoted sides, anything can happen in the playoffs with Posh, Rotherham and Bolton all still being here. I don’t think it’s a case that if we don’t get promoted it has been a failure of a season. 
    Anything but promotion is a failure.
    Have you seen how strong this league is .. there are 10 teams who would expect to be top 6 this season , only 3 spaces to go up !!!  that not failure 
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Croydon said:
    seth plum said:
    The way to judge if Jones knows what he is doing is if we secure automatic promotion at the end of the coming season.
    OK if we win the playoffs it will be acceptable.
    Anything else is failure.
    This doesn’t leave any room for the context of a season though? Birmingham and Huddersfield both have serious cash and will likely be the promoted sides, anything can happen in the playoffs with Posh, Rotherham and Bolton all still being here. I don’t think it’s a case that if we don’t get promoted it has been a failure of a season. 
    Anything but promotion is a failure.
    Have you seen how strong this league is .. there are 10 teams who would expect to be top 6 this season , only 3 spaces to go up !!!  that not failure 
    We have been in this league for too long.  We need to go up.  If we do not do that the team has failed to achieve what it needs to do.
  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,043
    shirty5 said:
    shirty5 said:
    sam3110 said:
    I thought the pitch upgrade was because of the women’s team now playing at the Valley?
    Same as St Helens are having their pitch upgraded because Liverpool women will be playing there.
    Nothing to do with the new owners.
    Just to be clear 🧐
    The grant only covers half the costs, and they had to agree to move the women to The Valley
    The shortfall would have been covered by the lump sum from Sky for showing  the EFL games this coming season 
    Does it ? Where in the EFL deal does it say that increased revenues for clubs need to be spent on the pitch ? Yes the club got more money from the Sky deal but it was the club that elected to spend it on Stadium infrastructure. 
    Do the maths. Pitch 1.2m.
     Grant 750k Sky Money 450k


    Good thing that's all of our expenditure for the season wrapped up in one payment, bloody owners it's all gonna be profit profit profit from here 🙄
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    edited June 2024
    shirty5 said:
    shirty5 said:
    sam3110 said:
    I thought the pitch upgrade was because of the women’s team now playing at the Valley?
    Same as St Helens are having their pitch upgraded because Liverpool women will be playing there.
    Nothing to do with the new owners.
    Just to be clear 🧐
    The grant only covers half the costs, and they had to agree to move the women to The Valley
    The shortfall would have been covered by the lump sum from Sky for showing  the EFL games this coming season 
    Does it ? Where in the EFL deal does it say that increased revenues for clubs need to be spent on the pitch ? Yes the club got more money from the Sky deal but it was the club that elected to spend it on Stadium infrastructure. 
    Do the maths. Pitch 1.2m.
     Grant 750k Sky Money 450k


    Good thing that's all of our expenditure for the season wrapped up in one payment, bloody owners it's all gonna be profit profit profit from here 🙄
    One less thing to fork out for.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,052
    Ness going for a fee would make sense , just feel like he needs a fresh start and regular football. Would think he'd stay at this level too. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    Interesting, I didn’t really see a place for Ness in back three so it was a bit surprising we decided to keep him, but that would explain why.

    Should mean we intend to sign another CB as well as Mitchell. I’m not convinced we’ve signed Edwards with the intention of regularly playing him at CB.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,002
    Getting a fee for Ness would probably be the best result, he's not really kicked on and sadly I don't think he's going to reach the level we're aspiring to get to. He might well follow the route of Terrell Thomas, a solid enough career in L2/L1 but never realistically breaking into the upper leagues.
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