It's very clear. We don't have to sell May. Even if Jones doesn't rate him. He could be massive for us as a sub.
The reality is, the new owners are like all the others. They speak well but are not prepared to invest to get out of this God forsaken league.
Jones has to sell May to improve the team, but promotion next season is now off the agenda - again!!
Because May got us promoted last season didn’t he? the over reaction from some fans is ridiculous. Until we see what our squad looks like by the first game of the season or even by the end of the window how do we know promotion is off the agenda.
Of equal importance he kept us up! As he had Cheltenham before that.
Biggest question really is Alfie playing cricket today?
Alfie is the highest scorer in his cricket team but unfortunately the head coach wants more all rounders in the team who are over six foot and can score a quick 25 and nick a wicket with medium pace. Alfie May feel under appreciated and didn't want to be a water carrying Twelfth man. He has had an offer from the South Yorkshire Cricket League who want an opener with an average of 50 and it's a no brainer for Alfie as they supply a lovely spread and his family will enjoy the yorkshire dales.
Well this thread devolved real quickly to a bunch of middle aged men taking cheap shots at each over whether they view the club in a positive light or a negative light. Real housewives of southeast London type stuff. Great entertainment. Keep it up.
Oi! Less of the middle aged and how dare you assume my sexuality!
It's very clear. We don't have to sell May. Even if Jones doesn't rate him. He could be massive for us as a sub.
The reality is, the new owners are like all the others. They speak well but are not prepared to invest to get out of this God forsaken league.
Jones has to sell May to improve the team, but promotion next season is now off the agenda - again!!
Because May got us promoted last season didn’t he? the over reaction from some fans is ridiculous. Until we see what our squad looks like by the first game of the season or even by the end of the window how do we know promotion is off the agenda.
Of equal importance he kept us up! As he had Cheltenham before that.
That wasn’t the point I was making though was it , the previous poster said we won’t get promoted without May and I said well we didn’t get promoted with him . But I know one thing I can’t wait for us to sell him now so we can move on.
I posted this on the Alfie May thread yesterday, but i thought i'd share it again here.
Charlton don't do promotions without a goal scorer, it's a fact. To move May on without a proven goal scorer coming in lacks ambition and we are right to question Jones and the owners.
28/29 - Fred Whitlow 26 34/35 - Ralph Alan 33 35/36 - Harrold Hobbis 23 74/75 - Derek Hales 21 80/81 - Derek Hales 23 85/85 - Jimmy Melrose* (pro-rata) 20 97/98 - Clive Mendonca 28 99/00 - Andy Hunt 25 11/12 - Bradley Wright-Phillips 22 18/19 - Lyle Taylor 25
*Melrose's debut was on the 29th of March against Millwall in a 2-2 draw at the Den.
Well this thread devolved real quickly to a bunch of middle aged men taking cheap shots at each over whether they view the club in a positive light or a negative light. Real housewives of southeast London type stuff. Great entertainment. Keep it up.
Why give a considered opinion when a cheap gag will do? Sign if the times.
I posted this on the Alfie May thread yesterday, but i thought i'd share it again here.
Charlton don't do promotions without a goal scorer, it's a fact. To move May on without a proven goal scorer coming in lacks ambition and we are right to question Jones and the owners.
28/29 - Fred Whitlow 26 34/35 - Ralph Alan 33 35/36 - Harrold Hobbis 23 74/75 - Derek Hales 21 80/81 - Derek Hales 23 85/85 - Jimmy Melrose* (pro-rata) 20 97/98 - Clive Mendonca 28 99/00 - Andy Hunt 25 11/12 - Bradley Wright-Phillips 22 18/19 - Lyle Taylor 25
*Melrose's debut was on the 29th of March against Millwall in a 2-2 draw at the Den.
Bet Daniel Kanu feels loved by us lot, if he's reading these threads at the moment.
I'm equally half joking by the way, I don't think Daniel could replicate May's scoring figures from last season, not this early in his career.
I'd be very surprised if he did, but there is equally a fascination on here to sign players who have already proven themselves, they come here and don't necessarily replicate what they've achieved elsewhere (May is one of the few in regard).
However there are clubs at this level who do take that risk on someone who hasn't proven themselves elsewhere, and are rewarded because they've done their research. I'm not expecting Kanu to magically fire us to promotion this coming season, not on his own. But he got seven for us in a disruptive campaign last time out, he's got a season of experience now, so imagine he'll be disappointed if he cant get into double figures at the very least.
A player has to start off somewhere in terms of finding the goals on a regular basis, and dont see any reason why that cant be Daniel at some point.
Well this thread devolved real quickly to a bunch of middle aged men taking cheap shots at each over whether they view the club in a positive light or a negative light. Real housewives of southeast London type stuff. Great entertainment. Keep it up.
Why give a considered opinion when a cheap gag will do? Sign if the times.
Why respond to amusingly whimsical reflections on the state of the thread with dismissive cries of 'cheap gag'?
Why, Leuth, respond to dismissive cries of 'cheap gag' with mock incomprehension?
So, my landscape Gardner is good friends with Alfie May and his dad. What he told me earlier this week is that he’s off to Huddersfield but a fee hadn’t been agreed. The reason he’s off … and I don’t know how true this is but he doesn’t get on with Nathan Jones. Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just passing on what I was told
Did your butler and fund manager have any insight? 😉
I'm gutted to see Alfie go, for the fee that's been put out there it seems ludicrous, if it was 1.2m+ I think that's decent business for a 30+ year old striker. I questioned the fanfare when we signed him, not because I didn't rate him, but because I do any new signing and I'm delighted he proved me wrong. My concern is last season we kept less than 10 clean sheets. The core of our team was incredibly week, that's with Dobo and May. Take those 2 away, where are the goals coming from?
Who are the leaders this year? Personally feel we are still a minimum of 6 short of what we need to be looking at promotion. I hope we got those but It's not exactly feeling like the summer I had hoped we'd see. We need a Midfield general, we need a captain and leader, we need a creative midfielder, we need a poacher and we need another rock in the back 3. Godden could actually be a masterstroke. Given his age and experience, could be ideal for the younger strikers to learn from and given his age, is not going to expect to play week in week out. Could be the ideal foil for Aneke, if Aneke stays fit. Effectively shared playing time.
So, my landscape Gardner is good friends with Alfie May and his dad. What he told me earlier this week is that he’s off to Huddersfield but a fee hadn’t been agreed. The reason he’s off … and I don’t know how true this is but he doesn’t get on with Nathan Jones. Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just passing on what I was told
Did your butler and fund manager have any insight? 😉
My pastry chef thinks it all Alfie’s wife’s doing, but most of the maids disagree.
My 1st post here in years. I've seen loads of great players leave our club. My all time hero was Marvin Hinton. But I'm first a loyal fan you either accept it or not.
I recall Wilder for Sheff Utd in League One had a team of athletes and one player of top ability, the no7 who I forget his name. Not only did he take that team up but he took them up again building on where it needed buiding on. Also, I think Anderson, Kanu and Leaburn are no longer unknowns and this could be great seasons for them. I think I am good at sniffing out a player and Asiimwe has future Premier League written all over him for me too. It is a bit embarrassing though were I spotted the Georgia no 7 and was told by my son he is known as the Georgia Maradonna and valued at £90m.
Alfies brother, and parents are in West Malling/Kings Hill area
Alfie was home for about an hour last week (Tuesday or Wednesday) and I heard him putting some stuff in the car. Then the kids and Lauren got in and they left and haven’t been home since so I was surprised to see him playing cricket in the area last weekend as I assumed they were up north.
their house is back on the market too so I figured last week this would be the outcome but didn’t want to say as it’s not my place.
they both loved it here and wanted to stay here but it wasn’t to be. I think there may be personal reasons playing a part in this too but that’s none of anyone’s business.
If he needs to move for those reasons why hasn't he put in a transfer request?
maybe Alfie knew of Huddersfileds interest, the club knew of Alfies family situation and they sat down and had a proper adult conversation?
Honestly now, this forum is full of adults....players come and go! There is nothing that can be done and you might not like it but you have to get on with it.
We have to see what the club up there sleeve. It might surprise us.
Either way, I am sure NJ has a plan and for now, that's good enough for me.
What is all this snobbery about how an adult should feel over Charlton related activity?
I spend a ridiculous amount of money following and watching Charlton, players like May and Dobson make those drives and shit journies home a bit more bearable.
If people spend their hard earned, and are sacrificing their time and money to follow this club, it's perfectly acceptable for people to be pissed off when the club makes poor decisions.
This lethargic approach of 'crying' 'grown adults' 'bed wetters' etc is a complete piss take. It's fans who give a shit about the team venting, all the sniping is proper frustrating to read.
Yeah I have to say it's getting pretty tiresome that whenever people on this board show passion for the club or one of its players, they get accused of bed wetting, crying, not being a grown man, etc.
It's called having a passion. We're not armchair Man Utd fans. In Argentina, people cry when they score a goal!
If you prefer to support from a more distanced place, by all means, but I don't see any need to try and humiliate others fans who are more invested.
There’s nothing dispassionate about taking the opposite approach to all this. I have watched almost every Charlton men’s, women’s, youth games that I possibly can. I have plenty of passion for CAFC.
Regarding what @Braziliance about the club making “poor decisions”. On the surface it does seem bonkers, but no one knows yet whether it’s a poor decision or a stroke of genius. Would it still be a poor decision if we get promoted and Huddersfield don’t?
It’s been quite clear from March / April that Jones hasn’t fancied Alfie. We don’t know why and I doubt we ever will. But he is the manager and he will live with the consequences of his decisions.
Everyone six months ago hated the model of players being forced on a manager and wanted the manager to be able to choose his squad. Now we have a manager with the remit to do it and the same people are upset because the manager doesn’t want the striker every fan loves.
I doubt if Jones will last the season if we are not challenging.
Same. I think we’ll be up there, with or without Alfie.
Based on what? Can only be pure hope at this point surely, as the squad is nowhere near where it needs to be.
The fact we finished the season strong and signing some good players and just putting the right systems in place behind the scenes . I think it’s a good time to be following Charlton with or with Alfie May.
Are you on commission to write this unrelenting drivel in support of this joke SMT? Have some pride!
Have some pride for backing the club and the manager ? Yeah that’s what I’m doing so stop talking waffle , I think the smt have done a good job since they’ve came in apart from a few poor decisions . We’re actually being run like a proper football club and that’s what people have been asking for since Roland . Carry on being negative about every little thing sad little man.
You’re either delusional or on the payroll. Worst season for 98 years mate, it’s embarrassing.
You’re delusional to blame the new owners for our worst finish after coming in late in the transfer window after taking over Sandgaard who had hardly any systems in place and a poor squad , no I’m not on the payroll I’m just happy we’re being run like a proper football club which was what every one has wanted for years. Stop being rude and use some common sense.
Appleton, I rest my case.
Yeah because no one has ever appointed a bad manager before have they even the biggest clubs in the world have , plus Appleton did have some successes it just didn’t work out for us. Any opportunity you lot get to jump on the owners you do . And it’s always the same lot.
Wow! Defending the Appleton appointment, the worst finish in 98 years, the selling of the leagues best striker to a promotion rival. These don’t seem like trivial blips. Is there anything that will make you question them or is it blind faith all the way?
Alfies brother, and parents are in West Malling/Kings Hill area
Alfie was home for about an hour last week (Tuesday or Wednesday) and I heard him putting some stuff in the car. Then the kids and Lauren got in and they left and haven’t been home since so I was surprised to see him playing cricket in the area last weekend as I assumed they were up north.
their house is back on the market too so I figured last week this would be the outcome but didn’t want to say as it’s not my place.
they both loved it here and wanted to stay here but it wasn’t to be. I think there may be personal reasons playing a part in this too but that’s none of anyone’s business.
If he needs to move for those reasons why hasn't he put in a transfer request?
maybe Alfie knew of Huddersfileds interest, the club knew of Alfies family situation and they sat down and had a proper adult conversation?
If there is any truth in this farce of selling our top scorer, and indeed golden boot winner last year, to a league one rival for a pittance of just £750K... The announcement has to be made by Charlton first on the OS to it's own fans, and not left to bloody 'uddersfield to broker the news, that has to be the way, we are owed that much at least...
I feel a Kevin Keegan moment coming where he met fans in the st James park car park after just selling their top scorer Andy Cole to Man utd!
TBF I think they bought Ginola and Asprilla with the cash. Reckon we'd be lucky to get Bogle back!
I reckon Ginola and Asprilla could still do a job for us!
So, my landscape Gardner is good friends with Alfie May and his dad. What he told me earlier this week is that he’s off to Huddersfield but a fee hadn’t been agreed. The reason he’s off … and I don’t know how true this is but he doesn’t get on with Nathan Jones. Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just passing on what I was told
Did your butler and fund manager have any insight? 😉
No, they don’t know Alfie May. But if they did know him, I’m sure they’d have an opinion 🤣
Alfies brother, and parents are in West Malling/Kings Hill area
Alfie was home for about an hour last week (Tuesday or Wednesday) and I heard him putting some stuff in the car. Then the kids and Lauren got in and they left and haven’t been home since so I was surprised to see him playing cricket in the area last weekend as I assumed they were up north.
their house is back on the market too so I figured last week this would be the outcome but didn’t want to say as it’s not my place.
they both loved it here and wanted to stay here but it wasn’t to be. I think there may be personal reasons playing a part in this too but that’s none of anyone’s business.
Okay, I’m not being funny but am I honestly the only one seeing how contradictory and ridiculous this is? Maybe I am I don’t know and maybe it’s because we live in a world where everyone wants to know more and more about things even if there isn’t anything more to know if it’s not to do with them. We’ve become a desperate society.
Saying it’s not anyone’s business whilst also telling everyone the name of his wife, where they live, where roughly his brother and parents live, previously uploading a photo of their home, saying they haven’t been back home for a week and whatever else over however long it’s been, whilst also saying you didn’t want to say as it’s not your place is simply an astounding level of hypocrisy and ignorance. Even if he wasn’t moving to Huddersfield, which it looks as though he is, I wouldn’t blame him he was instead looking to move away, even if you helped him find this place, as all of his business is aired on a fans forum. But it’s not anyone’s business 😅
Fully anticipate backlash from this and it’s important to keep to the topic I know, but deary me.
Im not some sort of fucking stalker - The things I’ve said are out there in various places already but only bits and bobs of it here and there. I’m trying to paint a clearer picture so people can stop spouting shit like “he moved because his wife made him”.
He lived next door to me for almost a year and I only admitted that when the rumours surfaced about him leaving. He was left alone to do his own thing so there were no breaches of trust. Even on the few times we met up socially we didn’t discuss football.at all.
He’s a family man who missed the first few years of his first two sons because he was living away so maybe, just maybe, he wants to be with his family, help them grow up but also he wants to go to work and enjoy it - which we could all see he was not at the end of the season by being subbed.
he gets a move, keeps his family close by, works for an old boss he admires, gets a pay rise and his wife gets more support for their kids. Maybe a player is doing what’s right for his family and himself!
Mate not being funny but just stop talking about his wife and sons, i know you don't mean anything by it but it's not a good look
Get real, the Wags and kids of many players are regulars around most clubs. The fact he has them is hardly a secret SWISDOM is hardly supplying information we are not all aware of. They have by some sources been quoted as the reason he is available for transfer. Although not exactly like the Royal family, people wish to know why, the best striker in league one is getting Huddersfield promoted and not us.
Honestly now, this forum is full of adults....players come and go! There is nothing that can be done and you might not like it but you have to get on with it.
We have to see what the club up there sleeve. It might surprise us.
Either way, I am sure NJ has a plan and for now, that's good enough for me.
What is all this snobbery about how an adult should feel over Charlton related activity?
I spend a ridiculous amount of money following and watching Charlton, players like May and Dobson make those drives and shit journies home a bit more bearable.
If people spend their hard earned, and are sacrificing their time and money to follow this club, it's perfectly acceptable for people to be pissed off when the club makes poor decisions.
This lethargic approach of 'crying' 'grown adults' 'bed wetters' etc is a complete piss take. It's fans who give a shit about the team venting, all the sniping is proper frustrating to read.
Yeah I have to say it's getting pretty tiresome that whenever people on this board show passion for the club or one of its players, they get accused of bed wetting, crying, not being a grown man, etc.
It's called having a passion. We're not armchair Man Utd fans. In Argentina, people cry when they score a goal!
If you prefer to support from a more distanced place, by all means, but I don't see any need to try and humiliate others fans who are more invested.
There’s nothing dispassionate about taking the opposite approach to all this. I have watched almost every Charlton men’s, women’s, youth games that I possibly can. I have plenty of passion for CAFC.
Regarding what @Braziliance about the club making “poor decisions”. On the surface it does seem bonkers, but no one knows yet whether it’s a poor decision or a stroke of genius. Would it still be a poor decision if we get promoted and Huddersfield don’t?
It’s been quite clear from March / April that Jones hasn’t fancied Alfie. We don’t know why and I doubt we ever will. But he is the manager and he will live with the consequences of his decisions.
Everyone six months ago hated the model of players being forced on a manager and wanted the manager to be able to choose his squad. Now we have a manager with the remit to do it and the same people are upset because the manager doesn’t want the striker every fan loves.
I doubt if Jones will last the season if we are not challenging.
Same. I think we’ll be up there, with or without Alfie.
Based on what? Can only be pure hope at this point surely, as the squad is nowhere near where it needs to be.
The fact we finished the season strong and signing some good players and just putting the right systems in place behind the scenes . I think it’s a good time to be following Charlton with or with Alfie May.
Are you on commission to write this unrelenting drivel in support of this joke SMT? Have some pride!
Have some pride for backing the club and the manager ? Yeah that’s what I’m doing so stop talking waffle , I think the smt have done a good job since they’ve came in apart from a few poor decisions . We’re actually being run like a proper football club and that’s what people have been asking for since Roland . Carry on being negative about every little thing sad little man.
You’re either delusional or on the payroll. Worst season for 98 years mate, it’s embarrassing.
You’re delusional to blame the new owners for our worst finish after coming in late in the transfer window after taking over Sandgaard who had hardly any systems in place and a poor squad , no I’m not on the payroll I’m just happy we’re being run like a proper football club which was what every one has wanted for years. Stop being rude and use some common sense.
Appleton, I rest my case.
Yeah because no one has ever appointed a bad manager before have they even the biggest clubs in the world have , plus Appleton did have some successes it just didn’t work out for us. Any opportunity you lot get to jump on the owners you do . And it’s always the same lot.
Wow! Defending the Appleton appointment, the worst finish in 98 years, the selling of the leagues best striker to a promotion rival. These don’t seem like trivial blips. Is there anything that will make you question them or is it blind faith all the way?
I’ll judge them after the window and how we finish the end of the season like most sensible people should do 👍🏻
Biggest question really is Alfie playing cricket today?
Alfie is the highest scorer in his cricket team but unfortunately the head coach wants more all rounders in the team who are over six foot and can score a quick 25 and nick a wicket with medium pace. Alfie May feel under appreciated and didn't want to be a water carrying Twelfth man. He has had an offer from the South Yorkshire Cricket League who want an opener with an average of 50 and it's a no brainer for Alfie as they supply a lovely spread and his family will enjoy the yorkshire dales.
🗣️HOWZAT ?
Fuck knows 🤷🏻♂️
May should check the script!...might be a catch in it.
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I keep getting the same one.....
Alfie is the highest scorer in his cricket team but unfortunately the head coach wants more all rounders in the team who are over six foot and can score a quick 25 and nick a wicket with medium pace.
Alfie May feel under appreciated and didn't want to be a water carrying Twelfth man.
He has had an offer from the South Yorkshire Cricket League who want an opener with an average of 50 and it's a no brainer for Alfie as they supply a lovely spread and his family will enjoy the yorkshire dales.
🗣️HOWZAT ?
Fuck knows 🤷🏻♂️
😎
Reminds me of “Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo”*
*If you aren’t aware, this is a famous example of an English language oddity.
Charlton don't do promotions without a goal scorer, it's a fact. To move May on without a proven goal scorer coming in lacks ambition and we are right to question Jones and the owners.
28/29 - Fred Whitlow 26
34/35 - Ralph Alan 33
35/36 - Harrold Hobbis 23
74/75 - Derek Hales 21
80/81 - Derek Hales 23
85/85 - Jimmy Melrose* (pro-rata) 20
97/98 - Clive Mendonca 28
99/00 - Andy Hunt 25
11/12 - Bradley Wright-Phillips 22
18/19 - Lyle Taylor 25
*Melrose's debut was on the 29th of March against Millwall in a 2-2 draw at the Den.
I'm equally half joking by the way, I don't think Daniel could replicate May's scoring figures from last season, not this early in his career.
I'd be very surprised if he did, but there is equally a fascination on here to sign players who have already proven themselves, they come here and don't necessarily replicate what they've achieved elsewhere (May is one of the few in regard).
However there are clubs at this level who do take that risk on someone who hasn't proven themselves elsewhere, and are rewarded because they've done their research. I'm not expecting Kanu to magically fire us to promotion this coming season, not on his own. But he got seven for us in a disruptive campaign last time out, he's got a season of experience now, so imagine he'll be disappointed if he cant get into double figures at the very least.
A player has to start off somewhere in terms of finding the goals on a regular basis, and dont see any reason why that cant be Daniel at some point.
Why, Leuth, respond to dismissive cries of 'cheap gag' with mock incomprehension?
Why breathe? Ban everyone
Spot on.
Did your butler and fund manager have any insight? 😉
Who are the leaders this year? Personally feel we are still a minimum of 6 short of what we need to be looking at promotion. I hope we got those but It's not exactly feeling like the summer I had hoped we'd see. We need a Midfield general, we need a captain and leader, we need a creative midfielder, we need a poacher and we need another rock in the back 3. Godden could actually be a masterstroke. Given his age and experience, could be ideal for the younger strikers to learn from and given his age, is not going to expect to play week in week out. Could be the ideal foil for Aneke, if Aneke stays fit. Effectively shared playing time.
What will we have to argue about then?
Nothing at all.
July 5th will usher is a era of peace, love and understanding so much so that @aliwibble will be trying to start rows just to have something to do.