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  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,566
    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2024/06/25/woolwich-pub-shut-with-repossession-notices-attached/
  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,613
    edited June 2024
    Sorry to see both The Welsh Tavern and The Lads of The Village closed on a recent walk around Stone....only The Bull left in that area now. For those who live in the area how many pubs have disappeared on the main road (London Road/A226) from Dartford to Gravesend? Or how many have actually survived?
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,534
    iaitch said:
    Gribbo said:
    SuedeAdidas said:
    My local - The Prince Frederick is up for sale. 
    Not far from Grove Park BR station
    You'd be better off going to Sundridge Park station.
    What, and miss the shop next to Grove Park BR sation???? No thank you
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,913
    Stuart_Learys_Boots said:
    The Greenwich Union was a Meantime brewery pub. 
    Asahi have announced they are closing the Meantime brewery in Greenwich and moving operations to Chiswick. 
    Death of another British beer at the hands of a multinational. 
    Hardly an historic loss. Founded in 1999. The “death” of this beer is entirely in the hands of the founder that cashed in…
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,934
    SporadicAddick said:
    Stuart_Learys_Boots said:
    The Greenwich Union was a Meantime brewery pub. 
    Asahi have announced they are closing the Meantime brewery in Greenwich and moving operations to Chiswick. 
    Death of another British beer at the hands of a multinational. 
    Hardly an historic loss. Founded in 1999. The “death” of this beer is entirely in the hands of the founder that cashed in…
    I've never understood the fuss about Meantime beer. Tried it a few times and was unimpressed each time. 
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,627
    HastingsRed said:
    Sorry to see both The Welsh Tavern and The Lads of The Village closed on a recent walk around Stone....only The Bull left in that area now. For those who live in the area how many pubs have disappeared on the main road (London Road/A226) from Dartford to Gravesend? Or how many have actually survived?
    George and Dragon at Swanscombe has closed - Railway Tavern between Stone and Swanscombe long ago became a McDonalds - going into Dartford down East Hill the Woodman has closed, Victory long gone (pizza takeaway now), Newtown Tavern long gone
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,669
    HastingsRed said:
    Sorry to see both The Welsh Tavern and The Lads of The Village closed on a recent walk around Stone....only The Bull left in that area now. For those who live in the area how many pubs have disappeared on the main road (London Road/A226) from Dartford to Gravesend? Or how many have actually survived?
    I knew the Lads had shut but I also heard that their application to turn it into flats was turned down & that it was to be kept as a pub?
    Was rather hoping someone would come in for it.
    Wishful thinking no doubt.
  • Acab
    Acab Posts: 726
    Has the Old Tigers Head Lee Green been mentioned.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,934
    Acab said:
    Has the Old Tigers Head Lee Green been mentioned.
    Has that shut then?

    I know the New Tigers Head opposite went years ago, but the Old was still there a few weeks ago.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,277
    How far is the Tigers Head? (Old or new)

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  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,613
    Lordflashheart said:
    HastingsRed said:
    Sorry to see both The Welsh Tavern and The Lads of The Village closed on a recent walk around Stone....only The Bull left in that area now. For those who live in the area how many pubs have disappeared on the main road (London Road/A226) from Dartford to Gravesend? Or how many have actually survived?
    George and Dragon at Swanscombe has closed - Railway Tavern between Stone and Swanscombe long ago became a McDonalds - going into Dartford down East Hill the Woodman has closed, Victory long gone (pizza takeaway now), Newtown Tavern long gone
    Is the Fulwich still open?
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,627
    HastingsRed said:
    Lordflashheart said:
    HastingsRed said:
    Sorry to see both The Welsh Tavern and The Lads of The Village closed on a recent walk around Stone....only The Bull left in that area now. For those who live in the area how many pubs have disappeared on the main road (London Road/A226) from Dartford to Gravesend? Or how many have actually survived?
    George and Dragon at Swanscombe has closed - Railway Tavern between Stone and Swanscombe long ago became a McDonalds - going into Dartford down East Hill the Woodman has closed, Victory long gone (pizza takeaway now), Newtown Tavern long gone
    Is the Fulwich still open?
    Yes
  • WishIdStayedinthePub
    WishIdStayedinthePub Posts: 648
    Off_it said:
    Acab said:
    Has the Old Tigers Head Lee Green been mentioned.
    Has that shut then?

    I know the New Tigers Head opposite went years ago, but the Old was still there a few weeks ago.
    Boarded up last week.  It's almost had as many managers as Charlton in recent years.  No-one has quite managed to make it work.  I feel for the last guys, as they tried very hard to turn it around but it was clearly in trouble early doors.  I remember going in months ago and none of the beers were on - not a single tap.  The pub then had erratic opening hours and the lights were always turned right down.

    It's a good location - you'd think it should be able to be a viable pub.
  • InspectorSands
    InspectorSands Posts: 5,196
    Acab said:
    Has the Old Tigers Head Lee Green been mentioned.
    https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2024/07/04/lees-closed-old-tigers-head-pub-will-roar-again-owner-pledges/
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,685
    Any news on what’s happening to The Pickwick?
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,609
    The Orange Tree Dartford end of the Hawley Road has closed down in last couple of weeks. 

  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,613
    RaplhMilne said:
    The Orange Tree Dartford end of the Hawley Road has closed down in last couple of weeks. 

    Will the Cressy be next?
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,627
    RaplhMilne said:
    The Orange Tree Dartford end of the Hawley Road has closed down in last couple of weeks. 

    It’s reopened I think
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,627
    HastingsRed said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    The Orange Tree Dartford end of the Hawley Road has closed down in last couple of weeks. 

    Will the Cressy be next?
    Still going strong - has a hardcore of locals who keep it afloat - always seems busy when I go past it
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,918
    iaitch said:
    How far is the Tigers Head? (Old or new)
    About 4 ft from his arse

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  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,681
    Lordflashheart said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    The Orange Tree Dartford end of the Hawley Road has closed down in last couple of weeks. 

    It’s reopened I think
    Talking Dartford, is The Maltshovel still going?
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,627
    LenGlover said:
    Lordflashheart said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    The Orange Tree Dartford end of the Hawley Road has closed down in last couple of weeks. 

    It’s reopened I think
    Talking Dartford, is The Maltshovel still going?
    Certainly, cracking pub - very popular, and well run
  • agim
    agim Posts: 1,135
    RaplhMilne said:
    The Orange Tree Dartford end of the Hawley Road has closed down in last couple of weeks. 

    I heard a few things about the chef not being paid and something about the sky bill. Not sure how true
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,202
    Lordflashheart said:
    LenGlover said:
    Lordflashheart said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    The Orange Tree Dartford end of the Hawley Road has closed down in last couple of weeks. 

    It’s reopened I think
    Talking Dartford, is The Maltshovel still going?
    Certainly, cracking pub - very popular, and well run
    I second that!!
  • addick19
    addick19 Posts: 379
    One of my locals in Bromley, The Prince Frederick, has been put up for sale, £500,000. Probably go to a developer.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,907
    Nags Head in Welling has had a big makeover and looks good from pics I’ve seen 
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,621
    addick19 said:
    One of my locals in Bromley, The Prince Frederick, has been put up for sale, £500,000. Probably go to a developer.
    Not a great development site, I knew someone who looked at it a few years back. Parking is the issue as from memory there’s no land really.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,856
    AFKABartram said:
    Nags Head in Welling has had a big makeover and looks good from pics I’ve seen 
    it's very nice inside and out
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,764
    Rob7Lee said:
    addick19 said:
    One of my locals in Bromley, The Prince Frederick, has been put up for sale, £500,000. Probably go to a developer.
    Not a great development site, I knew someone who looked at it a few years back. Parking is the issue as from memory there’s no land really.
    I hope you’re right. It’s my local too. 
  • Greenhithe
    Greenhithe Posts: 806
    Lordflashheart said:
    HastingsRed said:
    Lordflashheart said:
    HastingsRed said:
    Sorry to see both The Welsh Tavern and The Lads of The Village closed on a recent walk around Stone....only The Bull left in that area now. For those who live in the area how many pubs have disappeared on the main road (London Road/A226) from Dartford to Gravesend? Or how many have actually survived?
    George and Dragon at Swanscombe has closed - Railway Tavern between Stone and Swanscombe long ago became a McDonalds - going into Dartford down East Hill the Woodman has closed, Victory long gone (pizza takeaway now), Newtown Tavern long gone
    Is the Fulwich still open?
    Yes
    It isnt Australian Andy turned it into a hotel and no bar- it was my local for years

    Literally every pub from the George and Dragon to Datrford has gone now.  Railway, Welcome Inn, The Lads, The welsh, the bricklayers, the Tradesmens, the woodman, the victory, the Fulwich, the Belle,  Its ridiculous. 

    I now drink in teh Bird in Hand and god knws how long thats got left.  

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