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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    aliwibble said:
    dispute starting over trans women boxers, Australian lady is questioning their right to be in the competition .. both trans boxers have been excluded from other competitions .. shame that this has happened .. Ebanie Bridges slams decision that sees two boxers cleared to compete at Olympics despite failing gender eligibility tests as IOC defends itself | talkSPORT
    I'm not sure they're trans, they might just have a DSD (disorder of sexual development) similar to Caster Semenya. But if that means they've gone through male puberty that gives them a massive advantage in musculature and bone structure, which in a sport based around punching moves the issue from fairness into the realm of safety. The IOC's stance on this has been dreadfully wishywashy:
    This debate definitely should be had. But without the terms 'men fighting women' because it's just factually not true and insulting to the people affected. 
    I think some people are just so irrationally obsessed with transgender people that they exclude all other possibilities from their minds. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Gribbo said:
    Think the Beeb need to remove emselves from Marchand's 'arris

    Every Olympics there is a superstar in the pool and the home favourite Marchand is the man in 2024.

    Two golds in individuals and a chance for one more tonight.
    He's not bad  :D
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    Gribbo said:
    Think the Beeb need to remove emselves from Marchand's 'arris
    I mean, he is pretty good, isn't he?
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Can't say Stubblety-Cook as anything other than stubbly cock
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Gribbo said:
    Think the Beeb need to remove emselves from Marchand's 'arris

    Every Olympics there is a superstar in the pool and the home favourite Marchand is the man in 2024.

    Two golds in individuals and a chance for one more tonight.

    Make that 3 golds for Marchand in the 200 metres breast stroke.

    History is made with Two individual golds in one session.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    Loving the Dutch Fila tracksuits 
  • church-lane
    church-lane Posts: 935
    edited July 2024
    Gribbo said:
    Think the Beeb need to remove emselves from Marchand's 'arris

    Every Olympics there is a superstar in the pool and the home favourite Marchand is the man in 2024.

    Two golds in individuals and a chance for one more tonight.

    Make that 3 golds for Marchand in the 200 metres breast stroke.

    History is made with Two individual golds in one session.
    Not sure why The Beeb have to play the French commentary each time he wins though.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,290

    se9addick said:
    LenGlover said:
    Alex Yee is from Lewisham, born and 'raised' there
    Wonder if he supports Charlton?

    Probably not.
    I believe he’s Palace 


    😳😳😳😳😳

    Ah well, nobody's perfect.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    se9addick said:
    LenGlover said:
    Alex Yee is from Lewisham, born and 'raised' there
    Wonder if he supports Charlton?

    Probably not.
    I believe he’s Palace 


    😳😳😳😳😳

    It took him years to get out of the habit of collapsing to the ground every race and appealing for a penalty 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    se9addick said:
    LenGlover said:
    Alex Yee is from Lewisham, born and 'raised' there
    Wonder if he supports Charlton?

    Probably not.
    I believe he’s Palace 


    😳😳😳😳😳

    962?

    The year they pretend to have been founded gets earlier and earlier doesn't it?
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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    Alex Yee is from Lewisham, born and 'raised' there
    Well, he never went to my school .....
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited August 2024
    I do find it stupid how the Home Nation FA's are happy to work together for the Women to go to the Olympics with Football, but not the Men?

    I know its intended to be down to the fear that the likes of UEFA will take it as an opportunity to combine the Nations for the Euros and World Cup etc.

    But is it not the same fear for the Women's game?
    The women missed out on qualification due to the nation's league. England's result effectively would have allowed a Great Britain team to compete if it was positive, but we are going through a bit of a lull. We can still beat anybody on our day but have lost about 10% from where we were not so long ago.

    In terms of Rugby, Fiji have shown the way to go. You need pace and power and France got that but we haven't. I'm sure the sort of players needed are available.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited August 2024
    Mandatory for the women but for the 1st time that I can remember, no head guards for the men in Olympic boxing; I wonder why this change has taken place in 2024 ?
    This would've been discussed with medical experts.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,625
    edited August 2024

  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    The above is inseine.
  • HarryLime
    HarryLime Posts: 1,295
    Mandatory for the women but for the 1st time that I can remember, no head guards for the men in Olympic boxing; I wonder why this change has taken place in 2024 ?
    This would've been discussed with medical experts.
    I dont think head-guards were used for men in Rio, they definitely weren't last time in Tokyo, cant remember as to the logic of why they were kept for women.
    As ever with boxing sadly the ruling bodies decisions make little sense. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    I have watched 4 bouts. In each one the person I thought had won lost. Of course it must mean I am not knowledgeable enough, I appreciate that, but it takes away any fun I get from watching it.
  • I do find it stupid how the Home Nation FA's are happy to work together for the Women to go to the Olympics with Football, but not the Men?

    I know its intended to be down to the fear that the likes of UEFA will take it as an opportunity to combine the Nations for the Euros and World Cup etc.

    But is it not the same fear for the Women's game?
    The women missed out on qualification due to the nation's league. England's result effectively would have allowed a Great Britain team to compete if it was positive, but we are going through a bit of a lull. We can still beat anybody on our day but have lost about 10% from where we were not so long ago.

    In terms of Rugby, Fiji have shown the way to go. You need pace and power and France got that but we haven't. I'm sure the sort of players needed are available.
    I think the rugby shows that even if you can work out a way of qualifying based on England's performances, there's still going to be a problem putting together a UK team once every 4 years when people play every other competition as the 4 individual nations. They've responded to the issue by switching to playing sevens in the top international competitions as GB (I think it's actually GB not UK, for once?) so that the squad gets more used to each other and long term perhaps there's more chance of winning stuff.

    I wonder if the national FAs are worried that the public might start to think "hang on, why don't we enter a UK team in the world cup and actually try to win it?" Not so much of a risk now that England are up there challenging for trophies regularly, but back in the 70s or 80s some people might have been tempted.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,978
    Which channel is the men's swimming on tonight?
    They do it in a swimming pool, not the sea. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,788
    HarryLime said:
    Mandatory for the women but for the 1st time that I can remember, no head guards for the men in Olympic boxing; I wonder why this change has taken place in 2024 ?
    This would've been discussed with medical experts.
    I dont think head-guards were used for men in Rio, they definitely weren't last time in Tokyo, cant remember as to the logic of why they were kept for women.
    As ever with boxing sadly the ruling bodies decisions make little sense. 
    I believe the reason is that it was found that referees were having to stop bouts for head injuries more often due to head injuries caused by concussion when wearing head guards.  There is a cumulative effect which doesn't happen so much when not having that perceived protection. There has been a similar thing in cricket - prior to helmets, batsmen used to get hit far less because they used to watch the ball more and duck or sway out of the way. Now the inclination is to take the ball on and not worry about the consequences because of the protection the helmet affords them. 
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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Women's Archery:
    Bryony Pitman won 6-2 against a Mexican opponent in 1st round.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Not doing so well
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Pitman's form deserts her in 2nd round and goes out to a Chinese woman 6-0.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    I do find it stupid how the Home Nation FA's are happy to work together for the Women to go to the Olympics with Football, but not the Men?

    I know its intended to be down to the fear that the likes of UEFA will take it as an opportunity to combine the Nations for the Euros and World Cup etc.

    But is it not the same fear for the Women's game?
    The women missed out on qualification due to the nation's league. England's result effectively would have allowed a Great Britain team to compete if it was positive, but we are going through a bit of a lull. We can still beat anybody on our day but have lost about 10% from where we were not so long ago.

    In terms of Rugby, Fiji have shown the way to go. You need pace and power and France got that but we haven't. I'm sure the sort of players needed are available.
    I think the rugby shows that even if you can work out a way of qualifying based on England's performances, there's still going to be a problem putting together a UK team once every 4 years when people play every other competition as the 4 individual nations. They've responded to the issue by switching to playing sevens in the top international competitions as GB (I think it's actually GB not UK, for once?) so that the squad gets more used to each other and long term perhaps there's more chance of winning stuff.

    I wonder if the national FAs are worried that the public might start to think "hang on, why don't we enter a UK team in the world cup and actually try to win it?" Not so much of a risk now that England are up there challenging for trophies regularly, but back in the 70s or 80s some people might have been tempted.
    And I suppose we can look back at Ryan Giggs and Gareth Bale in terms of players who could have pushed us over that line. Also, we could have done with Andy Robertson in the recent Euros IMO. I think most people from all home nations would prefer to see us winning trophies.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    I do find it stupid how the Home Nation FA's are happy to work together for the Women to go to the Olympics with Football, but not the Men?

    I know its intended to be down to the fear that the likes of UEFA will take it as an opportunity to combine the Nations for the Euros and World Cup etc.

    But is it not the same fear for the Women's game?
    The women missed out on qualification due to the nation's league. England's result effectively would have allowed a Great Britain team to compete if it was positive, but we are going through a bit of a lull. We can still beat anybody on our day but have lost about 10% from where we were not so long ago.

    In terms of Rugby, Fiji have shown the way to go. You need pace and power and France got that but we haven't. I'm sure the sort of players needed are available.
    I think the rugby shows that even if you can work out a way of qualifying based on England's performances, there's still going to be a problem putting together a UK team once every 4 years when people play every other competition as the 4 individual nations. They've responded to the issue by switching to playing sevens in the top international competitions as GB (I think it's actually GB not UK, for once?) so that the squad gets more used to each other and long term perhaps there's more chance of winning stuff.

    I wonder if the national FAs are worried that the public might start to think "hang on, why don't we enter a UK team in the world cup and actually try to win it?" Not so much of a risk now that England are up there challenging for trophies regularly, but back in the 70s or 80s some people might have been tempted.
    And I suppose we can look back at Ryan Giggs and Gareth Bale in terms of players who could have pushed us over that line. Also, we could have done with Andy Robertson in the recent Euros IMO. I think most people from all home nations would prefer to see us winning trophies.
    But would the other home nations want to lose their teams, for the tiny number of their players who would end up part of the GB/UK team? This summer I can't think of a single Welsh or N Ireland player who would have made a combined UK squad at the Euros, never mind the first 11.

    Rugby is different, in that the home nations are more closely matched, as shown by the Lions teams.
  • CAFCTrev said:
    Which channel is the men's swimming on tonight?
    They do it in a swimming pool, not the sea. 

    @CAFCTrev Gold!
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,605
    dispute starting over trans women boxers, Australian lady is questioning their right to be in the competition .. both trans boxers have been excluded from other competitions .. shame that this has happened .. Ebanie Bridges slams decision that sees two boxers cleared to compete at Olympics despite failing gender eligibility tests as IOC defends itself | talkSPORT
    I’ve just read a thread on Twitter which was very interesting.
    I will post the statement made.
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,605
    edited August 2024


  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    edited August 2024
    Bronze in Women's Double Sculls 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Creditable bronze in the double skulls. A lot of word salad from the commentators though.