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  • Ireland going in Men's Double Scull
  • Creditable bronze in the double skulls. A lot of word salad from the commentators though.
    That BBC coverage was possibly the worst sports commentary I've ever heard. No useful information about the race, just irrelevant chatter. And some of what they did try to say about the race was clearly wrong, just from looking at the pictures on-screen.

    Great performance to get the bronze, though. Made it worth sitting through the commentary.
  • edited August 1
    The Male commentator was well confused at the finish of the Women's Double sculls.
    He said the Romanian were crumbling when they were clear of GB and close to the winning NZ.

    I don't mean Matthew Pinsent.

  • Gribbo said:
    Ireland going in Men's Double Scull
    Bronze
  • dispute starting over trans women boxers, Australian lady is questioning their right to be in the competition .. both trans boxers have been excluded from other competitions .. shame that this has happened .. Ebanie Bridges slams decision that sees two boxers cleared to compete at Olympics despite failing gender eligibility tests as IOC defends itself | talkSPORT
    I’ve just read a thread on Twitter which was very interesting.
    I will post the statement made.
    Worth remembering that the IBA and the IOC hate each other and the IBA won't miss an opportunity to stir trouble.

    Which isn't to say anything about the rights and wrongs of the issue - I know nothing about the medical status of the two boxers so I have no idea what the truth is. But I do know that the IBA are angry about being chucked out of the Olympics, with the sport only allowed to continue if someone else organised the competition. While the IOC are angry about the disrepute that the Olympics were brought into by all the corruption scandals in earlier boxing tournaments, which were way worse than what's happened this year.

    Personally I wouldn't trust the IBA if they told me it was raining. Others may have different views, including people who know far more about boxing that I do, but I'd want to hear views from people who aren't on one side or the other of that particular fight before I'd start trusting that the statements might be unbiased.

    Here's a link that will explain some of the background:
    https://www.espn.co.uk/espn/story/_/id/39861032/court-upholds-ioc-decision-remove-iba-olympic-family
  • The Male commentator was well confused at the finished of the Women's Double sculls.
    He said the Romanian were crumbling when they were clear of GB and close to the winning NZ.

    I don't mean Matthew Pinsent.

    That was bizarre. I think it's Moe Sbihi.
  • Gribbo said:
    Gribbo said:
    Ireland going in Men's Double Scull
    Bronze
    Philip Doyle is from Belfast, so another medal for a N Ireland competitor
  • edited August 1
    This is going to be so close for Helen Glover and the women's four 
  • Gwarn women's coxless 4s
  • Silver
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  • That could have gone either way I think. Hard luck to the girls.
  • Women's Rowing:
    Beaten on the line by the Dutch this time in the women's four and they get their revenge in another brilliant race.
    Helen Glover has two Golds and a silver and is super mum with 3 kids.
    Tough being slight favourite's against the excellent Netherlands who won from start to finish other than the ebb and flow of the boats when GB were in the lead for a split second.
  • edited August 1
    The Male commentator was well confused at the finished of the Women's Double sculls.
    He said the Romanian were crumbling when they were clear of GB and close to the winning NZ.

    I don't mean Matthew Pinsent.

    That was bizarre. I think it's Moe Sbihi.

    Moe came up with a classic Coleman ball.
    After our slow start in the men's four, Moe Sbihi stated:

    " The British crew are going backwards"

    WTF 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • dispute starting over trans women boxers, Australian lady is questioning their right to be in the competition .. both trans boxers have been excluded from other competitions .. shame that this has happened .. Ebanie Bridges slams decision that sees two boxers cleared to compete at Olympics despite failing gender eligibility tests as IOC defends itself | talkSPORT
    I’ve just read a thread on Twitter which was very interesting.
    I will post the statement made.
    Worth remembering that the IBA and the IOC hate each other and the IBA won't miss an opportunity to stir trouble.

    Which isn't to say anything about the rights and wrongs of the issue - I know nothing about the medical status of the two boxers so I have no idea what the truth is. But I do know that the IBA are angry about being chucked out of the Olympics, with the sport only allowed to continue if someone else organised the competition. While the IOC are angry about the disrepute that the Olympics were brought into by all the corruption scandals in earlier boxing tournaments, which were way worse than what's happened this year.

    Personally I wouldn't trust the IBA if they told me it was raining. Others may have different views, including people who know far more about boxing that I do, but I'd want to hear views from people who aren't on one side or the other of that particular fight before I'd start trusting that the statements might be unbiased.

    Here's a link that will explain some of the background:
    https://www.espn.co.uk/espn/story/_/id/39861032/court-upholds-ioc-decision-remove-iba-olympic-family
    Appreciate your input. Boxing really is a strange one isn’t it?
    I've watched a few bouts and there doesn’t seem to be any consistency 🤷‍♀️
    But if the women who are competing aren’t happy, I would tend to believe them and in that case, they’re the only ones who should be listened to.
  • dispute starting over trans women boxers, Australian lady is questioning their right to be in the competition .. both trans boxers have been excluded from other competitions .. shame that this has happened .. Ebanie Bridges slams decision that sees two boxers cleared to compete at Olympics despite failing gender eligibility tests as IOC defends itself | talkSPORT
    I’ve just read a thread on Twitter which was very interesting.
    I will post the statement made.
    Worth remembering that the IBA and the IOC hate each other and the IBA won't miss an opportunity to stir trouble.

    Which isn't to say anything about the rights and wrongs of the issue - I know nothing about the medical status of the two boxers so I have no idea what the truth is. But I do know that the IBA are angry about being chucked out of the Olympics, with the sport only allowed to continue if someone else organised the competition. While the IOC are angry about the disrepute that the Olympics were brought into by all the corruption scandals in earlier boxing tournaments, which were way worse than what's happened this year.

    Personally I wouldn't trust the IBA if they told me it was raining. Others may have different views, including people who know far more about boxing that I do, but I'd want to hear views from people who aren't on one side or the other of that particular fight before I'd start trusting that the statements might be unbiased.

    Here's a link that will explain some of the background:
    https://www.espn.co.uk/espn/story/_/id/39861032/court-upholds-ioc-decision-remove-iba-olympic-family
    Appreciate your input. Boxing really is a strange one isn’t it?
    I've watched a few bouts and there doesn’t seem to be any consistency 🤷‍♀️
    But if the women who are competing aren’t happy, I would tend to believe them and in that case, they’re the only ones who should be listened to.
    Believe them about what? Genetic science?
  • dispute starting over trans women boxers, Australian lady is questioning their right to be in the competition .. both trans boxers have been excluded from other competitions .. shame that this has happened .. Ebanie Bridges slams decision that sees two boxers cleared to compete at Olympics despite failing gender eligibility tests as IOC defends itself | talkSPORT
    I’ve just read a thread on Twitter which was very interesting.
    I will post the statement made.
    Worth remembering that the IBA and the IOC hate each other and the IBA won't miss an opportunity to stir trouble.

    Which isn't to say anything about the rights and wrongs of the issue - I know nothing about the medical status of the two boxers so I have no idea what the truth is. But I do know that the IBA are angry about being chucked out of the Olympics, with the sport only allowed to continue if someone else organised the competition. While the IOC are angry about the disrepute that the Olympics were brought into by all the corruption scandals in earlier boxing tournaments, which were way worse than what's happened this year.

    Personally I wouldn't trust the IBA if they told me it was raining. Others may have different views, including people who know far more about boxing that I do, but I'd want to hear views from people who aren't on one side or the other of that particular fight before I'd start trusting that the statements might be unbiased.

    Here's a link that will explain some of the background:
    https://www.espn.co.uk/espn/story/_/id/39861032/court-upholds-ioc-decision-remove-iba-olympic-family
    Appreciate your input. Boxing really is a strange one isn’t it?
    I've watched a few bouts and there doesn’t seem to be any consistency 🤷‍♀️
    But if the women who are competing aren’t happy, I would tend to believe them and in that case, they’re the only ones who should be listened to.
    Probably should listen to scientists who can work out if there's a high level of testosterone. 
  • So you believe the women competitors are lying?
    What does that achieve exactly?
    They want a fair fight.
    These two particular athletes have been found to have an unfair advantage by an association who has a duty of care to the women athletes.

  • edited August 1
    Very much not expecting to be paid out on my bet for Imane Khelif to win the women’s 66kg boxing. 4/1 starting price. Yes please .
  • dispute starting over trans women boxers, Australian lady is questioning their right to be in the competition .. both trans boxers have been excluded from other competitions .. shame that this has happened .. Ebanie Bridges slams decision that sees two boxers cleared to compete at Olympics despite failing gender eligibility tests as IOC defends itself | talkSPORT
    I’ve just read a thread on Twitter which was very interesting.
    I will post the statement made.
    Worth remembering that the IBA and the IOC hate each other and the IBA won't miss an opportunity to stir trouble.

    Which isn't to say anything about the rights and wrongs of the issue - I know nothing about the medical status of the two boxers so I have no idea what the truth is. But I do know that the IBA are angry about being chucked out of the Olympics, with the sport only allowed to continue if someone else organised the competition. While the IOC are angry about the disrepute that the Olympics were brought into by all the corruption scandals in earlier boxing tournaments, which were way worse than what's happened this year.

    Personally I wouldn't trust the IBA if they told me it was raining. Others may have different views, including people who know far more about boxing that I do, but I'd want to hear views from people who aren't on one side or the other of that particular fight before I'd start trusting that the statements might be unbiased.

    Here's a link that will explain some of the background:
    https://www.espn.co.uk/espn/story/_/id/39861032/court-upholds-ioc-decision-remove-iba-olympic-family
    Appreciate your input. Boxing really is a strange one isn’t it?
    I've watched a few bouts and there doesn’t seem to be any consistency 🤷‍♀️
    But if the women who are competing aren’t happy, I would tend to believe them and in that case, they’re the only ones who should be listened to.
    Probably should listen to scientists who can work out if there's a high level of testosterone. 
    Have the IBA not already done 'scientific tests' on them ?
  • And Angela abandoned the fight saying she has never been hit so hard.
    This isn't right.
    It isn't sport.
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  • Women's Rowing:
    Beaten on the line by the Dutch this time in the women's four and they get their revenge in another brilliant race.
    Helen Glover has two Golds and a silver and is super mum with 3 kids.
    Tough being slight favourite's against the excellent Netherlands who won from start to finish other than the ebb and flow of the boats when GB were in the lead for a split second.
    was Glover's husband there?

    Visions of Steve Backshall suddenly emerging halfway up the course wrestling a dolphin.
  • CAFCTrev said:
    Which channel is the men's swimming on tonight?
    They do it in a swimming pool, not the sea. 

    @CAFCTrev Gold!
    Thanks, trying to keep that LOL count ticking over. 
  • The Male commentator was well confused at the finished of the Women's Double sculls.
    He said the Romanian were crumbling when they were clear of GB and close to the winning NZ.

    I don't mean Matthew Pinsent.

    That was bizarre. I think it's Moe Sbihi.

    Moe came up with a classic Coleman ball.
    After our slow start in the men's four, Moe Sbihi stated:

    " The British crew are going backwards"

    WTF 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Is that not just a generalised term in that sport for going slow?

    Sounds a bit like when people did a double take (back in the 70s) when they first heard the term 'hitting the wall', before everyone realised that it was just a metaphorical wall rather than a description of an actual incident. 
  • edited August 1
    So you believe the women competitors are lying?
    What does that achieve exactly?
    They want a fair fight.
    These two particular athletes have been found to have an unfair advantage by an association who has a duty of care to the women athletes.

    They aren't lying in that these women have a genetic advantage due to their medical circumstances. 

    They are not trans athletes but it's an interesting debate that could be had. If you ban women born with high levels of natural testosterone because it gives an advantage. Do you then ban swimmers or cyclers with abnormally large lungs because it gives a natural level of advantage over their competitors? Or longer arm span length? Do you ban taller athletes in events where height is a natural advantage? 

    The 'fair fight' never happens because they are always natural advantages and disadvantages because we are all unique people. 
  • And Angela abandoned the fight saying she has never been hit so hard.
    This isn't right.
    It isn't sport.
    Adults punching each other in the face is barbaric nonsense.
  • The GB Hockey team have been taking lessons from Charlton on how to waste set pieces.
  • Gribbo said:
    Ireland going in Men's Double Scull
    Waiting for O'Donavan and McCarthy on Friday - good chance at gold, and O'Donavan's interview after it would probably be good value as usual.
  • And Angela abandoned the fight saying she has never been hit so hard.
    This isn't right.
    It isn't sport.
    Do you want women with high t levels to fight men?
  • There's only one way to sort out the argument about transwomen being allowed to fight. 
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