Given Tom's public views on his legacy, there may be a spotlight on his solicitor if charity was not specifically and unambiguously the main beneficiary. We don't know how Tom's legal advisor was chosen. (By the daughter?).
I have personal experience of poor wills. My father (in retrospect, see you next Tuesday) left his legacy, mostly the house to his two children and my nephew. He proviso'ed that my mother could live there rent free for the rest of her natural life. For a £4 internet search, the solicitor would have found that my mother owned 50% of the property, and now all of it.
I think the some of the proceeds from sales of the book did go to charity, but they trousered the advance from the publishers - a cool million quid.
Edit - 1.4 million
Like Carter says, the worst part is that this type of thing will put people off donating their hard earned to the many legitimate deserving causes out there.
Very much doubt there would have been as many book sales if people thought that the money was going into the pockets of his family and not to Toms charity.
Very much doubt there would have been as many book sales if people thought that the money was going into the pockets of his family and not to Toms charity.
And that's exactly it really isn't it?
It's not about whether they broke the law or not, it's the morality of it. More than anything, if my mum or dad were a national treasure and they had their memory unfairly tarnished I would be furious, the fact that his own daughter did it... Beyond belief.
I want a picture of that woman's face next to the word grifter in the dictionary.
Having a four week break in the Caribbean paid for by the Daily Mail was too good for his daughter, her husband and the kids to turn down. Tom was used as the poster boy and boy did that bandwagon go viral. Brilliant that mega money was raised but the manipulation was plain to see and I guess there's worse ways to die than being 100 after a month in a sunny climate in good accommodation.
BUT Tom remit as a role model for the seniors, went from being in a family bubble to being exposed to the world on flights and strangers meeting him on holiday. I have lived by the king is in the altogether so maybe I will always see life a tad different.
So obviously not the example the rest of us did with our elderly parents when they were isolated in their own home with just one family member to assist them. Having the grandkids standing by the front door while they were in the kitchen 20 yards away. That was so many people's situation.
The above was from July 2023 but I went against the grain much earlier than that in thinking this Captain Tom bandwagon was driven so much by the daughter and son in law.
Did anyone seriously think this 99 year old man at the time had written 3 books in a year ! 1.4 million up front. It was a sting and so many fell for it despite 38 million being raised and hopefully going to the deserved causes from the original appeal.
The very week Tom Moore should've had his COVID jab early in December because of his age group, The family of five went on the freebie to the Caribbean for 28 days.
Going from a warm climate to cold England in January was always going to be difficult for a 100 year old, let alone with COVID rampant and the elderly very vulnerable.
Hannah and Colin Ingram-Moore put greed above anything else and yet they are the victims according to the pair of them.
I used to look after a large accountancy firm and dealt a lot with one of their senior directors who lived in the same village. He told me at the time that Sir Tom was doing his fundraising that there was a lot of unease locally with the daughter and the PR “machine” that she put in place around her father. She was definitely seen as a grifter. Sad that she seems to have tarnished what should have been an amazing legacy of her own father.
Looks like my contact was absolutely spot on. A shame that his grifter daughter/son in law have tarnished the great legacy that Tom tried to leave.
What a shame the great man's memory has been blighted by all this.
I don't think it has, you can admire the man and still loath the money grabbing actions of his daughter and family.
I’ve said it before that he wasn’t a fool and I can’t believe he can’t have had an idea what was going to happen. The fact his other daughter wanted nothing to do with it must have told him something.
What a shame the great man's memory has been blighted by all this.
I don't think it has, you can admire the man and still loath the money grabbing actions of his daughter and family.
I’ve said it before that he wasn’t a fool and I can’t believe he can’t have had an idea what was going to happen. The fact his other daughter wanted nothing to do with it must have told him something.
It's worth remembering that the Tom Moore raised £38m which went to NHS charities; and that the Tom Moore Foundation was only set up after his death.
I don't think any blame should be put on this man's shoulders at all. The full weight of the nation's venom should be apportioned entirely on those that personally benefited from their association with the foundation.
What a shame the great man's memory has been blighted by all this.
I don't think it has, you can admire the man and still loath the money grabbing actions of his daughter and family.
I’ve said it before that he wasn’t a fool and I can’t believe he can’t have had an idea what was going to happen. The fact his other daughter wanted nothing to do with it must have told him something.
It's worth remembering that the Tom Moore raised £38m which went to NHS charities; and that the Tom Moore Foundation was only set up after his death.
I don't think any blame should be put on this man's shoulders at all. The full weight of the nation's venom should be apportioned entirely on those that personally benefited from their association with the foundation.
Not saying he was involved in anyway but can’t believe he wouldn’t have had an inkling what his daughter and son in-law were doing/would do.
What a shame the great man's memory has been blighted by all this.
I don't think it has, you can admire the man and still loath the money grabbing actions of his daughter and family.
I’ve said it before that he wasn’t a fool and I can’t believe he can’t have had an idea what was going to happen. The fact his other daughter wanted nothing to do with it must have told him something.
It's worth remembering that the Tom Moore raised £38m which went to NHS charities; and that the Tom Moore Foundation was only set up after his death.
I don't think any blame should be put on this man's shoulders at all. The full weight of the nation's venom should be apportioned entirely on those that personally benefited from their association with the foundation.
Not saying he was involved in anyway but can’t believe he wouldn’t have had an inkling what his daughter and son in-law were doing/would do.
It’s a tough one
He knowingly continued to use a military rank that isn’t used by non serving military, he wasn’t daft enough to not know what was happening with the book money etc
you could argue that he raised enough to absolve himself from any wrongdoing
Sadly people like his daughter and son in law are alarmingly common, they are like dung beatles that surface in the shadow of a loss. These people are unfortunately everywhere and every family has at least one set of them. They might keep a veneer or respectability but it lasts until the first time they can see someone else's legacy or wealth in their grabbing range. Hospices are rife with them, care homes and the homes of these loved family members less so. That would be showing human empathy or just being human. Or is it the ultimate human honesty to grab and take in times of loss unashamedly. How often do the offspring of good and successful people become good people themselves?
Ultimately a huge amount of people are as unashamed as these two leeches, turns out my family have our share of them too. Its too much for some people to graft, try and make something of themselves when all they need to do is grave rob essentially
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I have personal experience of poor wills. My father (in retrospect, see you next Tuesday) left his legacy, mostly the house to his two children and my nephew. He proviso'ed that my mother could live there rent free for the rest of her natural life. For a £4 internet search, the solicitor would have found that my mother owned 50% of the property, and now all of it.
Edit - 1.4 million
Like Carter says, the worst part is that this type of thing will put people off donating their hard earned to the many legitimate deserving causes out there.
It's not about whether they broke the law or not, it's the morality of it. More than anything, if my mum or dad were a national treasure and they had their memory unfairly tarnished I would be furious, the fact that his own daughter did it... Beyond belief.
I want a picture of that woman's face next to the word grifter in the dictionary.
The above was from July 2023 but I went against the grain much earlier than that in thinking this Captain Tom bandwagon was driven so much by the daughter and son in law.
Did anyone seriously think this 99 year old man at the time had written 3 books in a year ! 1.4 million up front.
It was a sting and so many fell for it despite 38 million being raised and hopefully going to the deserved causes from the original appeal.
The very week Tom Moore should've had his COVID jab early in December because of his age group, The family of five went on the freebie to the Caribbean for 28 days.
Going from a warm climate to cold England in January was always going to be difficult for a 100 year old, let alone with COVID rampant and the elderly very vulnerable.
Hannah and Colin Ingram-Moore put greed above anything else and yet they are the victims according to the pair of them.
I don't think any blame should be put on this man's shoulders at all. The full weight of the nation's venom should be apportioned entirely on those that personally benefited from their association with the foundation.
He knowingly continued to use a military rank that isn’t used by non serving military, he wasn’t daft enough to not know what was happening with the book money etc
you could argue that he raised enough to absolve himself from any wrongdoing
I don’t really have a point
Ultimately a huge amount of people are as unashamed as these two leeches, turns out my family have our share of them too. Its too much for some people to graft, try and make something of themselves when all they need to do is grave rob essentially