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Residents Parking Expansion for SE7 - UPDATE PAGE 3
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You should get two hours on a yellow line with a blue badge . regardless0
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Three hours on a yellow line.Bedsaddick said:You should get two hours on a yellow line with a blue badge . regardless
If the badge holders have parked on the pavement in an area where pavement parking has not been specifically authorised - don't forget pavement parking is banned in London except where it is specifically allowed - then that may well be where the problems have arisen.
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It was on the Reading match preview on the club site. I also got an email about it. It will be the situation for all games in the future. (When I say all, not sure about U21s and Women's) But the roads (Floyd Road, Harvey Gardens and Valley Grove) are supposed to be open until 45 minutes before kick-off, so the roads should not have been closed off at 2:10. They are also supposed to be re-opened "shortly after kick-off". It was an agreement between the plod and the anti-car council. Don't think the club had a say.Swisdom said:My old man got one yesterday. Turned up at 14:10 and got turned away by the” terrorosm police” so parked whereever he could. He then left the game at 15:10 because he was told the car park was accessible again now. By the time he got to his car he’d been ticketed.I’m not convinced it was particularly well communicated by the club on this occasion but may be mistaken.0 -
Could be fun if and when the opposition team coach turns up late.cafcfan said:
It was on the Reading match preview on the club site. I also got an email about it. It will be the situation for all games in the future. (When I say all, not sure about U21s and Women's) But the roads (Floyd Road, Harvey Gardens and Valley Grove) are supposed to be open until 45 minutes before kick-off, so the roads should not have been closed off at 2:10. They are also supposed to be re-opened "shortly after kick-off". It was an agreement between the plod and the anti-car council. Don't think the club had a say.Swisdom said:My old man got one yesterday. Turned up at 14:10 and got turned away by the” terrorosm police” so parked whereever he could. He then left the game at 15:10 because he was told the car park was accessible again now. By the time he got to his car he’d been ticketed.I’m not convinced it was particularly well communicated by the club on this occasion but may be mistaken.
tbf I think I’d rather go with the police view than the club’s on any terrorism risk assessment.1 -
The ticketed cars on Coxmount Road had blue badges displayed and were parked mainly on the pavement on double yellow lines (IIRC).Bedsaddick said:You should get two hours on a yellow line with a blue badge . regardless0 -
Where you can park with a Blue Badge
When you park with a Blue Badge, you must display it clearly.
In Royal Greenwich you can park for free in:
- disabled bays
- pay and display bays
- public car parks that we manage - check signs if you're not sure
You can also park on single or double yellow lines for up to 3 hours. Your vehicle must not cause an obstruction.
Check parking in other areas (GOV.UK).
Where you cannot park
Do not park in bays reserved for specific users. This includes:
- permit-holder only bays
- loading bays
- taxi bays
- doctors' bays
Always check parking signs on the street.
Use your Blue Badge
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I presume the discussion is whether or not the vehicles "were causing an obstruction"?
They were totally obstructing/blocking the pavement as you had to walk in the road (as you always do there).
They were arguably obstructing the road as they were parked right up to the junction and a larger vehicle may have had difficulty turning left into Coxmount Road.3 -
The road closures were announced on the website and the following appears in the match previews:Swisdom said:My old man got one yesterday. Turned up at 14:10 and got turned away by the” terrorosm police” so parked whereever he could. He then left the game at 15:10 because he was told the car park was accessible again now. By the time he got to his car he’d been ticketed.I’m not convinced it was particularly well communicated by the club on this occasion but may be mistaken.Fans are advised that the below roads around the ground will be closed from 2.15pm until just after kick-off on Saturday:
- Floyd Road
- Harvey Gardens
- Valley Grove
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A direct communication to car park pass holders would be much more effective. Doesn’t affect me but I never read any of the club’s previews and only look at the website if I’m checking something. I can’t imagine that is unusual.Crusty54 said:
The road closures were announced on the website and the following appears in the match previews:Swisdom said:My old man got one yesterday. Turned up at 14:10 and got turned away by the” terrorosm police” so parked whereever he could. He then left the game at 15:10 because he was told the car park was accessible again now. By the time he got to his car he’d been ticketed.I’m not convinced it was particularly well communicated by the club on this occasion but may be mistaken.Fans are advised that the below roads around the ground will be closed from 2.15pm until just after kick-off on Saturday:
- Floyd Road
- Harvey Gardens
- Valley Grove
Perhaps there was a direct communication.0 -
They did email me (car park pass holder) explaining it but I believe they should have added the caveat at the police’s discretion, because if we’re playing Fleetwood and they’ve got 100 fans it’s a lot different to 3k of brum fans around the back of valley grove .Airman Brown said:
A direct communication to car park pass holders would be much more effective. Doesn’t affect me but I never read any of the club’s previews. I can’t imagine that is unusual.Crusty54 said:
The road closures were announced on the website and the following appears in the match previews:Swisdom said:My old man got one yesterday. Turned up at 14:10 and got turned away by the” terrorosm police” so parked whereever he could. He then left the game at 15:10 because he was told the car park was accessible again now. By the time he got to his car he’d been ticketed.I’m not convinced it was particularly well communicated by the club on this occasion but may be mistaken.Fans are advised that the below roads around the ground will be closed from 2.15pm until just after kick-off on Saturday:
- Floyd Road
- Harvey Gardens
- Valley Grove
Perhaps there was a direct communication.So if we had a sell out against Man Utd in the cup then I’d expect the roads to be shut an hour or more before kick off0 - Sponsored links:
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There was. As I explained, I got an email.Airman Brown said:
A direct communication to car park pass holders would be much more effective. Doesn’t affect me but I never read any of the club’s previews and only look at the website if I’m checking something. I can’t imagine that is unusual.Crusty54 said:
The road closures were announced on the website and the following appears in the match previews:Swisdom said:My old man got one yesterday. Turned up at 14:10 and got turned away by the” terrorosm police” so parked whereever he could. He then left the game at 15:10 because he was told the car park was accessible again now. By the time he got to his car he’d been ticketed.I’m not convinced it was particularly well communicated by the club on this occasion but may be mistaken.Fans are advised that the below roads around the ground will be closed from 2.15pm until just after kick-off on Saturday:
- Floyd Road
- Harvey Gardens
- Valley Grove
Perhaps there was a direct communication.0 -
I didn't get an email and neither did my father as far as I know. Not really a big deal because we are normally there earlier than that anyway and this was a one-off for him to be so late.cafcfan said:
There was. As I explained, I got an email.Airman Brown said:
A direct communication to car park pass holders would be much more effective. Doesn’t affect me but I never read any of the club’s previews and only look at the website if I’m checking something. I can’t imagine that is unusual.Crusty54 said:
The road closures were announced on the website and the following appears in the match previews:Swisdom said:My old man got one yesterday. Turned up at 14:10 and got turned away by the” terrorosm police” so parked whereever he could. He then left the game at 15:10 because he was told the car park was accessible again now. By the time he got to his car he’d been ticketed.I’m not convinced it was particularly well communicated by the club on this occasion but may be mistaken.Fans are advised that the below roads around the ground will be closed from 2.15pm until just after kick-off on Saturday:
- Floyd Road
- Harvey Gardens
- Valley Grove
Perhaps there was a direct communication.0 -
Watching from the Valley Café Floyd Road got closed off to vehicular traffic just after 2pm and countless cars were turned away.cafcfan said:
It was on the Reading match preview on the club site. I also got an email about it. It will be the situation for all games in the future. (When I say all, not sure about U21s and Women's) But the roads (Floyd Road, Harvey Gardens and Valley Grove) are supposed to be open until 45 minutes before kick-off, so the roads should not have been closed off at 2:10. They are also supposed to be re-opened "shortly after kick-off". It was an agreement between the plod and the anti-car council. Don't think the club had a say.Swisdom said:My old man got one yesterday. Turned up at 14:10 and got turned away by the” terrorosm police” so parked whereever he could. He then left the game at 15:10 because he was told the car park was accessible again now. By the time he got to his car he’d been ticketed.I’m not convinced it was particularly well communicated by the club on this occasion but may be mistaken.
The stewards on the barrier were giving drivers short shrift
Predictably, plod (and there were dozens of them) all looked on quietly soaking up the overtime.0 -
Not driven up for a while.
What time do the parking restrictions end of a weekday evening?
Do they even end?0 -
End 630 midweek1
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In marked bays they end at 18.30 with a 2 hour maximum parking time.carly burn said:Not driven up for a while.
What time do the parking restrictions end of a weekday evening?
Do they even end?
In other words you can park after 16.30.4 -
Greenwich Council has started a consultation on “sustainable streets” and controlled parking zones in six areas of the borough.
Among those who could be affected are Charlton Athletic fans who park in streets south of Charlton Park when attending matches.
https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/02/24/sustainable-streets-cpz-consultation-launched-by-greenwich-council/0 -
Cos LBG pays any attention to what its residents say about local parkingclive said:Greenwich Council has started a consultation on “sustainable streets” and controlled parking zones in six areas of the borough.
Among those who could be affected are Charlton Athletic fans who park in streets south of Charlton Park when attending matches.
https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/02/24/sustainable-streets-cpz-consultation-launched-by-greenwich-council/
This time at least there is any admission that one of the goals is to raise revenue - notably absent from the previous CPZ 'consultation' deception.1 -
Tick box exercise as for ULEZ and Silvertown.
Its where (I assume) the law is a farce in that they have to do it but don't have to pay heed to the results.
Bureaucracy gone mad - pay for the process with no intention of meaningfully using the results. Better use of funds (if allowed) just to say we have decided to do x and stop the pretence.2 -
Consultation is a legal requirement, though exact requirements vary by sector, and legal challenges can arise if a public body fails to consult meaningfully, either in the form of judicial review or under the Equality Act. It's not just the public who will be consulted but other organisations and corporations impacted or who count as stakeholders in a proposal. Actually bringing a legal challenge would depend on having the organisational capability and will to mount one but it has happened and there have been high profile cases.
https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/guides/public-consultation-uk
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It would appear they are going to move Charlton Station to be located next to Hospital according to the map.clive said:Greenwich Council has started a consultation on “sustainable streets” and controlled parking zones in six areas of the borough.
Among those who could be affected are Charlton Athletic fans who park in streets south of Charlton Park when attending matches.
https://greenwichwire.co.uk/2025/02/24/sustainable-streets-cpz-consultation-launched-by-greenwich-council/2 -
It does amuse me. Houses are built next to each other in long rows or blocks of flats with minimal (1 or 2 space) or no parking (due to age of house) and people live in large cities crammed into an overcrowded area.. This puts pressure on parking on the road.Businesses are built with minimal parking , and the same thing occurs.I turn up every now and then to watch a football match, and yet it would seem that I will be forced to join the private parking lottery rather than park on the Kings highway.On a separate but similar vein Milton Keynes has so much parking they shut alot of sections off. And yet years ago this was all free, now they charge. So lack of space is not the reason for the charge.I assume there are several reasons for this.- Less funding from central government- A dislike of car ownership by our elected members.- a noisy and distateful bunch of locals who do not want the club in the areaI do question why one would live near a football ground if you dislike noise, extra people and more traffic/parking on several nights or afternoons during the week.And no I do not want to join everyone on public transport, mainly because it is shite, expensive, uncomfortable and unreliable. Yet it seems Greenwich would like to make decisions for me.I have no evidence for my claims, just fancied a winge.
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According to the Greenwich wire report, if i've read it correctly, this is the consultation on sustainable streets, at https://sustainable-streets-rbg.commonplace.is/
The consultation on the new Controlled Parking Zones is expected to take place in the Summer. The report says- "Budget proposals issued last month said that the CPZs could be in place by the end of the year in the affected areas, with the aim of generating £1 million a year by 2029. Formal consultations on any plans could take place between July and September."
However, the report suggests this sustainability consultation, will likely inform the CPZ consultation in some ways.0 -
I think the residents get what they deserve. For years I've driven round the roads encompassing the Valley and not been able to park because legitimate spaces were blocked by wheelie bins, planks of wood or traffic cones.
When I do now attend I use public transport (bus).0 -
Some residents, not allgolfaddick said:I think the residents get what they deserve. For years I've driven round the roads encompassing the Valley and not been able to park because legitimate spaces were blocked by wheelie bins, planks of wood or traffic cones.
When I do now attend I use public transport (bus).3 -
I only recall seeing it very occasionally in over 50 years.JohnnyH2 said:
Some residents, not allgolfaddick said:I think the residents get what they deserve. For years I've driven round the roads encompassing the Valley and not been able to park because legitimate spaces were blocked by wheelie bins, planks of wood or traffic cones.
When I do now attend I use public transport (bus).0 -
Yes, obviously some and definitely not all.JohnnyH2 said:
Some residents, not allgolfaddick said:I think the residents get what they deserve. For years I've driven round the roads encompassing the Valley and not been able to park because legitimate spaces were blocked by wheelie bins, planks of wood or traffic cones.
When I do now attend I use public transport (bus).0 -
I blame the Boswell’sCovered End said:
I only recall seeing it very occasionally in over 50 years.JohnnyH2 said:
Some residents, not allgolfaddick said:I think the residents get what they deserve. For years I've driven round the roads encompassing the Valley and not been able to park because legitimate spaces were blocked by wheelie bins, planks of wood or traffic cones.
When I do now attend I use public transport (bus).1 -
The organisation councils use for ‘consultation’,‘Commonplace’, is a very questionable enterprise and as slippery as a barrel load of snakes, tattooed with small print, slithering in oil.0
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Sadly I think If they take out the parking south of the park that will be the final straw for many that still drive to The Valley. It’s an arse of a walk after the game back up the hill and through the park, but you can see on Matchday just how many still do it.
Will also affect visitors to the Saturday morning parkrun in the park.
We go in the park cafe before every home game, so just from us alone that will be 7 customers the cafe will lose. Saturday morning post-parkrun is probably its busiest period.So the three things most likely impacted by further parking restrictions will be a free and healthy community event making use of the park, the park’s community hub cafe, and its local football club that employs many people from the borough and delivers a range of community programmes.Bonkers. Let’s hope with a bit of lead time the club are better at fighting this than they were last year4
