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++Charlie Kelman signs on a 4 year deal++
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SantaClaus said:Kelman failed to score in first 30 odd Championship appearances. He must be ecstatic with the 1 in 3 scoring record he's managed since breaking his duck.
Slightly false stat in that he only started 4 out of 23 appearances in the Championship for QPR. Of those 23, almost half (1 start and 10 subs) were made as a 19 year-old.2 -
Hales and Mendonca did very little other than score goals. Would love Kelman to earn his place in that kind of company.5
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Must admit, i dont rate Kelman, but very happy to be proved wrong.
BTW, is he in USA squad for WC?0 -
Loved his post-match interview yesterday as he watched the goal.Great insight in to how he attacked the ball so that the keeper couldn't prepare in time.4
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Thought his work rate when tracking back in the last minutes of the game was much improved.2
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Not sure the WC is even on his radar given his interview with Louis Mendez0
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Yeah I notice in the warm ups when he shoots he aims to kind of fizzle the ball off his foot rather than power it through compared to everyone else. Seems to really catch keepers off guard.oohaahmortimer said:Someone pointed out on the match thread and I’ve watched it a few times he had no back lift for the goal, just a ping, brilliant finish .
Fair play to his interview as well any reason why he give the hands behind ears to Brum fans ?
Had two yanks in front (who hated Tom Brady) and were buzzing when Kelman scored3 -
Cracking finish when we needed it, he worked bloody hard when he came on, both making runs going forward and chasing back, he looked a real striker again yesterday, need to see it more often, but probably no coincidence we were trying to play a bit more football than the lump it up to him.4
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Scoham said:
Kelman’s effort isn’t an issue, it’s that in games when he’s started and we’ve struggled to create chances he hasn’t offered enough to help that. That could come from hold up play, winning headers, movement to create space for others, taking on defenders etc.CL_Phantom said:Scoham said:
If it was that simple our front two should be Godden and Kelman, with Carey and Knibbs starting in midfield (when they’re all fit of course). But it won’t be, because the balance of the team is also important.CL_Phantom said:Scoring goals is good, but, just wish he'd run around outside the box more, you know?
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We don't always need 10 excitable Labradors chasing the ball around.
Carey and Docherty do plenty of running and Dykes plenty of battling outside the box. Godden didn't effect the shape much last season, his ability to sniff out a goal was somewhat key to the system, Kelman can (and imo should have) see a lot more game time.
The TC argument is fine and get it, but in a team in need of goals, it's gotta be Big lad and Kelman as much as possible for me.
But I'm old fashioned, just like how I think games against relegation rivals are must win, I like my strikers that score goals.
He’s had good games and today was another (and not just for the goal). But there have been others in which he’s offered so little some have questioned why we’ve signed him and what he adds outside of finishing.
I agree he can be a good player for us at this level, but I get why he isn’t yet a guaranteed starter.
He has as many cons as our other forwards that we must persist with on a more regular basis and who's pros are often highlighted to exaggerated levels, so he can only really snatch the odd goal, shame, but perhaps find players that will make up for the lack of creating and whatever else he offers little of, in a side that is the extreme opposite of prolific, I just have a simple view that maybe... He should... Play a bit more...given he might be the most likely to, well, score (rather than relying on Carey all the time)
As someone said above about goal scorers and cost, we have the potential for one here, so why not nurture rather than hinder.0 -
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Has the potential to score 20 goals in the Championship, given good injury luck and some players around him to provide the chances. If both are fit I don't see a reason to start TC ahead of him, I'm of the opinion Charlie is a way better footballer.3
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Really difficult to know how I feel about Kelman. Feel like 3M is a bargain when you look at his ability to finish in front of goal shown Godden level ability w some of his finishes, but offers close to nothing outside of his shooting weird one.0
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He's not too bad at pressing but I reckon Jones has told him he wont start unless he also tracks back and tackles0
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It's obvious that Kelman is a quality finisher on a different level to anybody else at the club - he strikes the ball cleanly with little or no backlift which means he gets his shots away unlike TC, Leaburn, Olafe etc who find theirs blocked by last-ditch tackles or blocks.
His movement is also good enough in and around the box - probably could improve on this still as he's up against better defenders than last season.
Jones' challenge is to find a way next season to enjoy more possession in the opposition's half to make use of these qualities and obviously we need a new midfield (with the honourable exception of Carey) to do this.
Otherwise Kelman may be restricted to Super Sub duties which will be very frustrating for both him and us.0 -
I’d argue his movement still needs a lot of work the fact he’s only had 22 shots shows he can’t create for himself isn’t receiving service and doesn’t know where to be to get that service.kinveachyaddick said:It's obvious that Kelman is a quality finisher on a different level to anybody else at the club - he strikes the ball cleanly with little or no backlift which means he gets his shots away unlike TC, Leaburn, Olafe etc who find theirs blocked by last-ditch tackles or blocks.
His movement is also good enough in and around the box - probably could improve on this still as he's up against better defenders than last season.
Jones' challenge is to find a way next season to enjoy more possession in the opposition's half to make use of these qualities and obviously we need a new midfield (with the honourable exception of Carey) to do this.
Otherwise Kelman may be restricted to Super Sub duties which will be very frustrating for both him and us.If we’re purely going off goal scoring ability Kelman plays 90 mins week in week out but he massively needs to improve on his other areas1 -
Yes definitely needs improvement but it’s encouraging he recognises it himself, but at least he is going to improve from a good starting point. Thought his interviews the other day were very honest.Crispywood said:
I’d argue his movement still needs a lot of work the fact he’s only had 22 shots shows he can’t create for himself isn’t receiving service and doesn’t know where to be to get that service.kinveachyaddick said:It's obvious that Kelman is a quality finisher on a different level to anybody else at the club - he strikes the ball cleanly with little or no backlift which means he gets his shots away unlike TC, Leaburn, Olafe etc who find theirs blocked by last-ditch tackles or blocks.
His movement is also good enough in and around the box - probably could improve on this still as he's up against better defenders than last season.
Jones' challenge is to find a way next season to enjoy more possession in the opposition's half to make use of these qualities and obviously we need a new midfield (with the honourable exception of Carey) to do this.
Otherwise Kelman may be restricted to Super Sub duties which will be very frustrating for both him and us.If we’re purely going off goal scoring ability Kelman plays 90 mins week in week out but he massively needs to improve on his other areas1 -
Amazing result, they are heroes. But something about Kelman bugs me, and it's not the sitter he missed, I can't put my finger on it, he just always moves like it is a pre-season friendly, such little aggression and intensity, a running style reminiscent of Macualey Bonne.2
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Missing the sitter is the thing that worries me the most. Not a fan of what Kelman brings off the ball the one thing I thought he could do was put the ball in the back of the net.IR94 said:Amazing result, they are heroes. But something about Kelman bugs me, and it's not the sitter he missed, I can't put my finger on it, he just always moves like it is a pre-season friendly, such little aggression and intensity, a running style reminiscent of Macualey Bonne.0 -
IR94 said:Amazing result, they are heroes. But something about Kelman bugs me, and it's not the sitter he missed, I can't put my finger on it, he just always moves like it is a pre-season friendly, such little aggression and intensity, a running style reminiscent of Macualey Bonne.
That wasn’t a sitter and it was an excellent save from their keeper. That aside he worked hard defensively and drew a number of defensive fouls to take the pressure off.Crispywood said:
Missing the sitter is the thing that worries me the most. Not a fan of what Kelman brings off the ball the one thing I thought he could do was put the ball in the back of the net.IR94 said:Amazing result, they are heroes. But something about Kelman bugs me, and it's not the sitter he missed, I can't put my finger on it, he just always moves like it is a pre-season friendly, such little aggression and intensity, a running style reminiscent of Macualey Bonne.23 -
They're all sitters from the sofa.8
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1) If wasn’t a sitter. Keeper did very well.
2) Kelmans all round play was very good. He’s a good technical footballer and it shows …. Dropping deep to pick up the ball, offering an outlet and laying it off16 -
If people genuinely don’t think that’s a sitter I don’t know what is. He’s got the whole entire side of the goal to hit and shoots straight into Byrnn. I really don’t understand the Kelman protection
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Even Chris Iwelumo on Sky thought it was a sitter and he should know. Though he failed to mention it was much harder than the one he skied over the bar for Scotland with no keeper to beat.13
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A well-timed screenshot doesn't show the true moment. Kelman should have done better but disagree it can be classed as a sitter.Crispywood said:If people genuinely don’t think that’s a sitter I don’t know what is. He’s got the whole entire side of the goal to hit and shoots straight into Byrnn. I really don’t understand the Kelman protection 10 -
Should be scoring that poor finish.2
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He tried to slot it between keepers legs but clipped it too high.
Kind of thing a top top striker would try and probably execute.
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Thought he had a good game with leaburn tbh.10
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He missed it on purpose as he knew it was going to be too early for us to take the lead and hang on16
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You know what I was thinking that just now,after we scored it was a struggle to put 2 passes together and lit a fuse for Boro,we did defend like hero's though so you never know.BigRedEvil said:He missed it on purpose as he knew it was going to be too early for us to take the lead and hang on1 -
He scored about a dozen of those exact type of chances at orient last season. Disappointed he didn’t score but 9/10 he’s putting it in the back of the net, I think he’s shown enough this season to show he’s a natural finisher.9
