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How Many points for Championship Survival? and How do we get them?
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I've revised my previos target of 50-52 points to be safe to 52-54 points.
Still think we will be safe before going to Sheff Wed. Hoping Good Friday will be very good indeed 🙂2 -
7 points obtained from our last 4. 9 from our last 6. 12 from our last 8.
As long as the form doesn't drop off a cliff, we should be aiming for as close to 60 points as we can.5 -
Go on then, add the deducted points back to Leicester and Wednesday. We'd still be above them both! So you're talking nonsense.KingKinsella said:
Can't see 2 teams getting points deductions in the same season again. We are fortunate this season our footballs dire- L1 standard. Wait till we play Lincoln next year they'll hammer us.balham red said:
It's just that Birmingham and Wrexham are not your normal league one clubs coming up, with the money they've spent.BigRedEvil said:
Better than going straight back down again. Plus gives the teams coming up some hope they can actually compete. And having the same teams yoyo between leagues isn't greatbalham red said:
How so?BigRedEvil said:I think it's good for the league that all 3 promoted sides are all going to stay up this season.
Can't see it happening like this again to be honest.10 -
Personally i think we only need 1 more win. 51 points will easily be enough.
If we get that, then to get to 52 points:
Blackburn need 3 wins and 1 draw.
West Brom need 4 wins.
Oxford 4 wins and 1 draw.
Leicester need 4 wins and 2 draws.
There's only 8 games left, and some of these teams also play each other.
Yes there will be surprise results, and yes as we get closer to the end of the season there will be more and more teams 'on the beach' or teams who've secured a play off place and want to rest players, but these bottom teams are not suddenly going to all develop play off form in the last 8 games.
So for me, 51 points is enough but i actually think we'll end up with closer to 60 points.11 -
We’ve basically played 3 different ways in the last 3 games and come out of them with 7 of the 9 points up for grabs. This squad is basically adapting on a match by match basis to play the team they are facing. It’s building resilience, it will pick up more points.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Personally i think we only need 1 more win. 51 points will easily be enough.
If we get that, then to get to 52 points:
Blackburn need 3 wins and 1 draw.
West Brom need 4 wins.
Oxford 4 wins and 1 draw.
Leicester need 4 wins and 2 draws.
There's only 8 games left, and some of these teams also play each other.
Yes there will be surprise results, and yes as we get closer to the end of the season there will be more and more teams 'on the beach' or teams who've secured a play off place and want to rest players, but these bottom teams are not suddenly going to all develop play off form in the last 8 games.
So for me, 51 points is enough but i actually think we'll end up with closer to 60 points.8 -
Top four in the division are all safely either promoted or definitely in the playoffs. Boro, Ipswich and Millwall are all still in with an automatic place and I don’t see that being resolved with too many games left. It could go to the wire. That’s very good for us as it means none of those 2nd to 4th teams will take their foot off the gas. Likewise, Hull, Wrexham and Southampton all still have work to do so again will not I don’t think be in a position to ease off. Coventry aside it’s still all to play for at the top.1
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Gonna predict we hit the beach led by TC with surfboard in hand.DamoNorthStand said:I think 52 points is what we should be aiming for.
I would expect us to be winning one of our remaining home games at least, and then you are looking for one draw from the remaining 7 games.
We are either gonna hit the beach once we get to 50 points or relax and play with freedom and no pressure.Gonna predict we end on 55 points.2 -
Looking at the fixture list between now and mid April it wouldn’t surprise me if Millwall will be fretting by then about how ‘safe’ that play off place still is after they’ve played those games; andShootersHillGuru said:Top four in the division are all safely either promoted or definitely in the playoffs. Boro, Ipswich and Millwall are all still in with an automatic place and I don’t see that being resolved with too many games left. It could go to the wire. That’s very good for us as it means none of those 2nd to 4th teams will take their foot off the gas. Likewise, Hull, Wrexham and Southampton all still have work to do so again will not I don’t think be in a position to ease off. Coventry aside it’s still all to play for at the top.
blaming everyone else yesterday is a toxic mindset that could undermine their whole season. Be a shame if that happens 🤣, but hey ho as they say…and, like yesterday, I wouldn’t rely upon them to do us any favours in their remaining games just yet.
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This post really sums my feelings 100%. Perhaps we're so close to things you can't see what's happening but besides the adaptability there's a really good resilience, just look at the players celebrating at the end of the last 3 games...they want to improve and I have no doubts Nathan won't let them take their foot off the accelerator... Nathan doesn't strike me as an on the beach manager!letthegoodtimesroll said:
We’ve basically played 3 different ways in the last 3 games and come out of them with 7 of the 9 points up for grabs. This squad is basically adapting on a match by match basis to play the team they are facing. It’s building resilience, it will pick up more points.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Personally i think we only need 1 more win. 51 points will easily be enough.
If we get that, then to get to 52 points:
Blackburn need 3 wins and 1 draw.
West Brom need 4 wins.
Oxford 4 wins and 1 draw.
Leicester need 4 wins and 2 draws.
There's only 8 games left, and some of these teams also play each other.
Yes there will be surprise results, and yes as we get closer to the end of the season there will be more and more teams 'on the beach' or teams who've secured a play off place and want to rest players, but these bottom teams are not suddenly going to all develop play off form in the last 8 games.
So for me, 51 points is enough but i actually think we'll end up with closer to 60 points.7 -
Preston are now a shorter price than us with the bookies to go down. On a run of 2 points from the past 7 games.3
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These are Preston’s remaining fixtures. I’d be surprised if they can’t squeeze enough points out of those to stay up but there’s some big games on there they must take something from. Perhaps Thierry jumping ship will backfire spectacularly although it seems unlikely. Surely they only need perhaps 4 points from those games.
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Every one a battle and not a great prospect for a team that’s lost some of its fight.ShootersHillGuru said:These are Preston’s remaining fixtures. I’d be surprised if they can’t squeeze enough points out of those to stay up but there’s some big games on there they must take something from.0 -
They currently have one more point than us and we’re collectively thinking that we probably only need four points to be safe. Surely they can amass three ?letthegoodtimesroll said:
Every one a battle and not a great prospect for a team that’s lost some of its fight.ShootersHillGuru said:These are Preston’s remaining fixtures. I’d be surprised if they can’t squeeze enough points out of those to stay up but there’s some big games on there they must take something from.1 -
Preston have a few games against the teams below them. Potentially winnable games...or if they lose them all, a chance for the teams below them to close the gap.0
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They’ve lost 5 of the last 6 and drew the other one. They should have more than enough points already and so should we but neither of us have enough to take it for granted and they are total shit atm and have a fixture list that just looks too tough given their recent form.ShootersHillGuru said:
They currently have one more point than us and we’re collectively thinking that we probably only need four points to be safe. Surely they can amass three ?letthegoodtimesroll said:
Every one a battle and not a great prospect for a team that’s lost some of its fight.ShootersHillGuru said:These are Preston’s remaining fixtures. I’d be surprised if they can’t squeeze enough points out of those to stay up but there’s some big games on there they must take something from.1 -
I know Preston lost 2-0 at Norwich yesterday, but the match stats indicate that they could possibly have got something from the game.
They had 15 shots, compared to 9 for Norwich, 4 each on target. They had an xg of 2.52 as opposed to 0.88 for Norwich.
Doesn't indicate that they're on the beach just yet.2 -
I think we need 1 win and a couple of draws to be safe.Personally would prefer Leicester and West Brom/blackburn to go down as big clubs.Think we will be in a fight to stay up again next season.5
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I don’t even think we’re in a fight this year.palarsehater said:I think we need 1 win and a couple of draws to be safe.Personally would prefer Leicester and West Brom/blackburn to go down as big clubs.Think we will be in a fight to stay up again next season.4 -
2nd season syndrome is a big thing in the championship. Would like to think we would build towards midtable next season but much rather we have Lincoln’s and Oxford’s at this level than Leicester’s or Blackburn’s.12
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I think my crystal ball is on the blink, people predicting how we are going to do next season, when mine isn’t telling me where we end up this season!!😂0
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I think one side will go down with 51/52 points ...0
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Interesting that despite some strong starts from the likes of Preston, Stoke and QPR that they've fallen back and are kind of part of the mini-League that I always expected them to be involved in with us.
Is probably Hull and Derby from last season that have managed to stay where they are.1 -
The league is very even this year, outside of the top 4, the rest all the way down to us are very similar in ability.ForeverAddickted said:Interesting that despite some strong starts from the likes of Preston, Stoke and QPR that they've fallen back and are kind of part of the mini-League that I always expected them to be involved in with us.
Is probably Hull and Derby from last season that have managed to stay where they are.2 -
Only 6 points from 12 games since New Year's Day. At that point they were 4th, just 3 points off 2nd. Truly horrendous run of form and they'd be right in it had they not started the season well.mid_life_crisis said:Preston are now a shorter price than us with the bookies to go down. On a run of 2 points from the past 7 games.
They won't go down though, just 1 win and they'll be safe.1 -
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8 games to go for most of us, so a potential 24 points up for grabs.0
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The league is very even this year, outside of the top 4, the rest all the way down to us are very similar in ability.ForeverAddickted said:Interesting that despite some strong starts from the likes of Preston, Stoke and QPR that they've fallen back and are kind of part of the mini-League that I always expected them to be involved in with us.
Is probably Hull and Derby from last season that have managed to stay where they are.This is just how Football in England is in general outside of the Premier League for meMoney can be a factor, but having the best budget etc. seems a lot less important in the EFL and below - Its so much more unpredictable for some reason, maybe the youth loan market plays a heavy part, and is in part down to clubs getting lucky in getting the next Conor Gallagher / Brennan Johnson type loan0 -
All 3 teams coming up from League One staying up?balham red said:
It's just that Birmingham and Wrexham are not your normal league one clubs coming up, with the money they've spent.BigRedEvil said:
Better than going straight back down again. Plus gives the teams coming up some hope they can actually compete. And having the same teams yoyo between leagues isn't greatbalham red said:
How so?BigRedEvil said:I think it's good for the league that all 3 promoted sides are all going to stay up this season.
Can't see it happening like this again to be honest.
It's happened the last 3 years at least.0 -
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