++Charlie Kelman signs on a 4 year deal++

fenaddick said:

6 goals in 1310 minutes for Kelman and 7 goals in 2805 for Kone. Of course, Kone has been available more often but Kelman looks like he's adapting better to the league

Not an exact comparison to be fair, as you have to look at their roles in the team, plus allow for penalty goals.

I still think Kone would have fitted our team better,  as he offers more physicality up front than Kelman. We're not a passing team, playing many clever through balls to strikers to run on to, but instead one where the strikers have to battle for the ball. NJ had to bring in Dykes in January to address that physical weakness.

I remember earlier in the season, someone posting that last season, most of his goals for Orient, were in the 2nd half of the season.

I think they said he had scored 4 goals from August - December?

Will be happy with this, as me and the missus at the start of the season, picked 2 players to sponsor , him , and we also picked Kaminski, as well, never done shirt sponsorship before, but it’s a good laugh, seeing how it all pans out.

Looking forward to meeting them at the training ground next month, and having a slap up meal,  ( better than Charlton hospitality).

I genuinely believe, this club is on the up, and it works out at a tenner a week, what’s that, 1 pint of beer a week?

Apologies if this has already been mentioned and discussed but does anyone else think he could do with shedding a few pounds? Just seems a bit "over" to me and wonder if he would be sharper if he did?

DubaiCAFC said:

As much he frustrates as I feel he should and can do a lot more - does anyone have any stats on goals to chances? I would imagine it is pretty high! 

Think it’s something like 6 goals from less then 30 shots 

fenaddick said:

6 goals in 1310 minutes for Kelman and 7 goals in 2805 for Kone. Of course, Kone has been available more often but Kelman looks like he's adapting better to the league

Kelman is a better finisher than Kone, but Kone is ahead at pretty much everything else you want from a striker. I still think Kone has the way higher ceiling of the 2 of them and is the better signing, but Kelman has still been a decent signing for us 

IR94 said:

No denying he can finish, but other aspects of his game need to be developed for this level.

Agreed but I think the attitude and hunger are there to improve .  I still wouldn’t have signed that profile of striker for the way we play but I think we will see more of him next season after a good pre season . 

CharltonManor1966 said:

Apologies if this has already been mentioned and discussed but does anyone else think he could do with shedding a few pounds? Just seems a bit "over" to me and wonder if he would be sharper if he did?

I’m seeing him next month, will ask him
for you. 🫣

Not a massive surprise but Kelman isn't in the USA squad which pretty much ends any chance of him making a WC squad. Maybe he might have a chance at a preliminary squad but not much more than that

fenaddick said:

Not a massive surprise but Kelman isn't in the USA squad which pretty much ends any chance of him making a WC squad. Maybe he might have a chance at a preliminary squad but not much more than that

He never played for the senior squad even when he was scoring goals for Orient .. yet in under 20 scored 7 in 19 so don’t think it’s anything about his form 

fenaddick said:

Pelling1993 said:

Just had a look at the goals per 90 stats in the Championship.

Intrestingly Knibbs is 13th with 0.53 goals per 90

Kelman is 25th with 0.41 goals per 90.

both actually pretty good returns.

Knibbs is a fantastic set piece chaos agent because he's massive but not an aerial target for us, that's been a big miss

Yep If we are gonna on more occasions play defensive get the ball up there cluster fuck football he would be a good asset. 

The one thing that surprised me the most though was his stats in league one of being one of the top players for turnarounds and winning the ball something I didn't see much maybe because it's a higher level but he can always step up if given a proper run,it's a shame about the injury tbh.

CharltonManor1966 said:

Mendonca In Asdas said:

Up close, he’s as slim as a sausage.

Yeah. Its hips and arse kind of weight - just seems a bit over heavy to me but these guys won't get on the pitch if they are not absolutely 100% so you are probably right. Enjoy your pie and chips with Charlie next week!

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/2660837/2021/06/22/yaya-toure-why-bums-are-so-important-in-football/

fenaddick said:

CharltonManor1966 said:

Mendonca In Asdas said:

Up close, he’s as slim as a sausage.

Yeah. Its hips and arse kind of weight - just seems a bit over heavy to me but these guys won't get on the pitch if they are not absolutely 100% so you are probably right. Enjoy your pie and chips with Charlie next week!

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/2660837/2021/06/22/yaya-toure-why-bums-are-so-important-in-football/

Always thought that the best hold-up players have wider body frames / arses. So much harder to get to the ball. 

It's also why Ahadme immediately looked suspect because he's thin and spindly and has no width to block off a defender behind him. Couple that with awful balance and that's why he's spent the season playing second fiddle at Stevanage. 

Here's hoping we implement 'The Big Arse Policy' in future. 

This thread has gone a bit weird, talking about players arses!!!!, which is ironic because most of us on here are probably old, unfit and slightly rotund!! Good old CL hypocrisy for you😂

Sword65pf said:

This thread has gone a bit weird, talking about players arses!!!!, which is ironic because most of us on here are probably old, unfit and slightly rotund!! Good old CL hypocrisy for you😂

Oi, some of us are young, unfit and slightly rotund thank you very much