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I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................
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It’s also not our job to say we think he should be sacked but plenty do. I think it’s really interesting that people struggle to name someone better. You’re right that they don’t need to but equally why can’t they?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.4 -
Weve wasted 2 windows and unless we we really push on with the standard of our signings are no better prepared for next season, than we were this one.NabySarr said:
I bet Jones would love some of the midfielders that Mousinho has. We might have spent more on transfer fees but Pompey have been at this level for an extra year which makes a huge difference in terms of squadMarcusH26 said:
Great point about Pompey , I bet Mousinho would absolutely love to have had our budget and striking options but he's got a pretty limited squad safe again just through hard work.EastTerrace said:He has had a squad full of limited players, but surely on the same level or slightly better than Portsmouth’s, who are safe but have had a terrible injury crisis too.
Jones’ decisions, team selections and set ups over the past month have been awful, especially when you see how we can play in that first half last night.
In my opinion, if we fail to stay up then, even with this limited bunch of players, he has to take most of the responsibility. (Not necessarily saying he should go though, if we do go down)
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I struggle to see why people are fed up being in the championship 2 years in a row for the first time in 10 years. In a period where the club needs stability, changing managers doesn't make sense unless there is a better alternativeChris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.8 -
You have got to be a troll. Post this again if we secure safetyllama_child_21cws said:
I struggle to see why people are fed up being in the championship 2 years in a row for the first time in 10 years. In a period where the club needs stability, changing managers doesn't make sense unless there is a better alternativeChris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.2 -
How do we know who is better? Any managerial appointment (unless you're getting someone like Guardiola) is a gamble. It doesn't even necessarily need to be someone who's done the rounds before.fenaddick said:
It’s also not our job to say we think he should be sacked but plenty do. I think it’s really interesting that people struggle to name someone better. You’re right that they don’t need to but equally why can’t they?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.
What did Hull fans think when they appointed Jakirovic? I'm guessing none of them had ever heard of him.
What did Southampton fans think when they first put the 33 year old manager of their U21s (who had never had a senior managerial role) in temporary charge?2 -
If we applied that logic to everything we wouldn’t have a forum! We don’t know how signings are going to play but that doesn’t stop speculation, we don’t know what XI will be selected or how they’ll play. It’s so weird to me that this has become a sole point of non conversation, especially as it hasn’t been an issue beforeChris_from_Sidcup said:
How do we know who is better? Any managerial appointment (unless you're getting someone like Guardiola) is a gamble. It doesn't even necessarily need to be someone who's done the rounds before.fenaddick said:
It’s also not our job to say we think he should be sacked but plenty do. I think it’s really interesting that people struggle to name someone better. You’re right that they don’t need to but equally why can’t they?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.
What did Hull fans think when they appointed Jakirovic? I'm guessing none of them had ever heard of him.
What did Southampton fans think when they first put the 33 year old manager of their U21s (who had never had a senior managerial role) in temporary charge?2 -
Not a troll just looked at probabilities I've just checked William Hill and you can't even bet on us to get relegated now that's how unlikely it isLeuth said:
You have got to be a troll. Post this again if we secure safetyllama_child_21cws said:
I struggle to see why people are fed up being in the championship 2 years in a row for the first time in 10 years. In a period where the club needs stability, changing managers doesn't make sense unless there is a better alternativeChris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.2 -
The gutless end to the season has to be someone's fault. Seven games without a win is pathetic and we should have been safe given the fixture list.3
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I’m far from Jones out but it really isn’t hard to look around at what the alternatives would be
If we stay up then you could probably attract the likes of Struber, Cifuentes, Mason and Ismael that have been in championship jobs recently.
We could also look to league 1. My first choice would probably be Challinor, but he has rejected us before and Stockport might still get promoted. Not sure there are any other league 1 managers I’d be keen on
Might also be some movement at the end of the season that makes a few more managers available to us.
I really don’t think any of the potential options are better than sticking with Jones though. And if we went down then the calibre of manager we’d be able to attract would be a lot lower than it is in the championship
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The PTSD that I have is that these arguments were made when there were calls for Bowyer to go... Like you say any Managerial appointment is a gamble, but we've been badly bitten in the number of years between Bowyer and Jones being hired, so I need to be forgiven for not immediately trusting the process to get rid.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
How do we know who is better? Any managerial appointment (unless you're getting someone like Guardiola) is a gamble. It doesn't even necessarily need to be someone who's done the rounds before.fenaddick said:
It’s also not our job to say we think he should be sacked but plenty do. I think it’s really interesting that people struggle to name someone better. You’re right that they don’t need to but equally why can’t they?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.
What did Hull fans think when they appointed Jakirovic? I'm guessing none of them had ever heard of him.
What did Southampton fans think when they first put the 33 year old manager of their U21s (who had never had a senior managerial role) in temporary charge?
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When did i say that people can't speculate on a manager or new signings?fenaddick said:
If we applied that logic to everything we wouldn’t have a forum! We don’t know how signings are going to play but that doesn’t stop speculation, we don’t know what XI will be selected or how they’ll play. It’s so weird to me that this has become a sole point of non conversation, especially as it hasn’t been an issue beforeChris_from_Sidcup said:
How do we know who is better? Any managerial appointment (unless you're getting someone like Guardiola) is a gamble. It doesn't even necessarily need to be someone who's done the rounds before.fenaddick said:
It’s also not our job to say we think he should be sacked but plenty do. I think it’s really interesting that people struggle to name someone better. You’re right that they don’t need to but equally why can’t they?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.
What did Hull fans think when they appointed Jakirovic? I'm guessing none of them had ever heard of him.
What did Southampton fans think when they first put the 33 year old manager of their U21s (who had never had a senior managerial role) in temporary charge?
I'm simply questioning the person who said people can't say Jones out unless they offer a viable alternative. That's nonsense. And i should reiterate, i'm not even in the 'Jones out' camp.0 -
I still say that continuity of keeping the same manager from one season to the next gives a big advantage over other teams who have to rip up their system and start again.
At the start of the season, I just wanted us to stay up, and I still don't care how that happens - it is not unusual for a newly promoted team, with a relatively small budget to run out of steam at the end of a season.
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I wasn’t suggesting you were saying that, I was just saying that people tend not to be able to. They don’t need to but it is interesting that the vast majority of people won’t do itChris_from_Sidcup said:
When did i say that people can't speculate on a manager or new signings?fenaddick said:
If we applied that logic to everything we wouldn’t have a forum! We don’t know how signings are going to play but that doesn’t stop speculation, we don’t know what XI will be selected or how they’ll play. It’s so weird to me that this has become a sole point of non conversation, especially as it hasn’t been an issue beforeChris_from_Sidcup said:
How do we know who is better? Any managerial appointment (unless you're getting someone like Guardiola) is a gamble. It doesn't even necessarily need to be someone who's done the rounds before.fenaddick said:
It’s also not our job to say we think he should be sacked but plenty do. I think it’s really interesting that people struggle to name someone better. You’re right that they don’t need to but equally why can’t they?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.
What did Hull fans think when they appointed Jakirovic? I'm guessing none of them had ever heard of him.
What did Southampton fans think when they first put the 33 year old manager of their U21s (who had never had a senior managerial role) in temporary charge?
I'm simply questioning the person who said people can't say Jones out unless they offer a viable alternative. That's nonsense. And i should reiterate, i'm not even in the 'Jones out' camp.0 -
I don't think that's whyllama_child_21cws said:
Not a troll just looked at probabilities I've just checked William Hill and you can't even bet on us to get relegated now that's how unlikely it isLeuth said:
You have got to be a troll. Post this again if we secure safetyllama_child_21cws said:
I struggle to see why people are fed up being in the championship 2 years in a row for the first time in 10 years. In a period where the club needs stability, changing managers doesn't make sense unless there is a better alternativeChris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.2 -
Would he be bringing his current Man City squad with him? If so i agree its not a gamble.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
How do we know who is better? Any managerial appointment (unless you're getting someone like Guardiola) is a gamble. It doesn't even necessarily need to be someone who's done the rounds before.fenaddick said:
It’s also not our job to say we think he should be sacked but plenty do. I think it’s really interesting that people struggle to name someone better. You’re right that they don’t need to but equally why can’t they?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.
What did Hull fans think when they appointed Jakirovic? I'm guessing none of them had ever heard of him.
What did Southampton fans think when they first put the 33 year old manager of their U21s (who had never had a senior managerial role) in temporary charge?1 -
You’re delusional if you think there’s not a chance we will get relegatedllama_child_21cws said:
Not a troll just looked at probabilities I've just checked William Hill and you can't even bet on us to get relegated now that's how unlikely it isLeuth said:
You have got to be a troll. Post this again if we secure safetyllama_child_21cws said:
I struggle to see why people are fed up being in the championship 2 years in a row for the first time in 10 years. In a period where the club needs stability, changing managers doesn't make sense unless there is a better alternativeChris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.2 -
Of course I am not saying there isn't a chance, it is unlikely thoughAberystwythAddick said:
You’re delusional if you think there’s not a chance we will get relegatedllama_child_21cws said:
Not a troll just looked at probabilities I've just checked William Hill and you can't even bet on us to get relegated now that's how unlikely it isLeuth said:
You have got to be a troll. Post this again if we secure safetyllama_child_21cws said:
I struggle to see why people are fed up being in the championship 2 years in a row for the first time in 10 years. In a period where the club needs stability, changing managers doesn't make sense unless there is a better alternativeChris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.0 -
This was such a likeable, easy to support team at the start of the year but we look a long way off that at the moment. I think the key issue is a lack of quality in the squad. That's driven by us coming up a 'year early' through the playoffs, a poor summer recruitment window and the effects of the season taking its toll on the team. When confidence was high the team was more than the sum of its parts, but that is no longer the case. We have a pretty average bunch of players, that only really suit one style of play with no elite attacking threats. We desperately need attacking, creative options in this squad and need to improve the depth and back-up options.
I am a fan of Jones but there are clear areas for improvement. He needs to develop a better plan B. We are limited by the players available, but throwing all your attackers on and lumping the ball forward is a schoolboy tactic that has barely worked for us this year. Two years in a row we have been good at defending our box but conceded lots of long range efforts. Players need to engage the ball earlier. We have to be braver in certain games with a higher line. Too often when we take the lead we drop deep from 60 minutes (sometimes earlier) and invite pressure on which we fail to see out. We simply have to get better at open play chance creation, though this likely requires better players.
Losing 6 of our last 7 at home and, more broadly, failing to score more than one goal in 39 games this year is nowhere near good enough. This run of form has been so hard to watch and has increased the pressure and drained confidence. We need one more result to confirm it. I think getting it done ourselves would be a significant achievement for the players even though staying up by any means necessary is all that matters. Get it over the line, learn some big lessons from this season and improve the squad in the summer.
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I think this is an important point that is overlooked, teams that do well often have more continuity than teams that don’t do well. Just look at this seasons teams that have done well across the leagues Coventry, Ipswich, Millwall, Wrexham, Derby, Lincoln, Bolton, Bradford, Stockport, Stevenage, Bromley, MK Dons, Cambridge, Salford etcSteveKielyCambridge said:I still say that continuity of keeping the same manager from one season to the next gives a big advantage over other teams who have to rip up their system and start again.
At the start of the season, I just wanted us to stay up, and I still don't care how that happens - it is not unusual for a newly promoted team, with a relatively small budget to run out of steam at the end of a season.
There’s only a few teams having successful seasons that had a new manager across the whole EFL, there are plenty that have had bad seasons though.
On the whole, teams that do well across all leagues have continuity in squad and/or in manager. We know the squad needs work, if we add a managerial change into that as well then I just think we are much less likely to do well next season3 -
Xg warned how wank we were at the start of the season despite the points tally saying otherwise and eventually our utter ineptness has caught up on us ….5
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LittleAddick said:Would love him to explain the logic of the last two games, because maybe I'm just being obtuse. But why did we effectively set up for a draw against a shocking Sheffield Wednesday team (okay I get it they have got a few draws, but they are still the worst ever Championship team), but against Ipswich, a top team, we press high up the pitch and go for them - in the first half anyway. If we had done that against Sheff Wed, instead of sitting back, we'd have easily overpowered them, because they haven't got the quality Ipswich have to just play through us.
Good post LA.
When we played WBA away their form has been terrible and they hadn't won under Eric Ramsay and the players and fans were fearing the worse.
So instead of being aggressive and playing like we did against Ipswich at first we were timid and don't get at them. After the 1-1 draw, WBA still realized they needed a new voice and ex player Morrison has worked wonders.
The Sheffield Wednesday game was the same and so many of us are baffled with the thinking of Nathan
I want him to make decisions that are better than the manager in the other dugout.
If because Oxford don't win their next two games and they still could, Charlton are still a championship side, it will still be a dismal business end to the season and a Pyrrhic Victory with so much damage done to the belief of fans, players, coaches and owners alike.
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Because come the final day of the season, it will have been a success, imo.AberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone4 -
If you ignore the total collapse of form to secure safety then yeah sureStu_of_Kunming said:
Because come the final day of the season, it will have been a success, imo.AberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone2 -
The season WILL be a success if we stay up. No ifs or buts. It will be a success with plenty of warning signs about our chances to repeat/improve on it but taken as a whole it will be a successful season if survival is achieved.AberystwythAddick said:
If you ignore the total collapse of form to secure safety then yeah sureStu_of_Kunming said:
Because come the final day of the season, it will have been a success, imo.AberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
Bad form at a really bad time won't retrospectively make it a failed season, unless it does lead to relegation.5 -
Whilst it’s been hugely frustrating, I don’t think that means the season hasn’t been a success, to sack Jones at that stage would be madness.AberystwythAddick said:
If you ignore the total collapse of form to secure safety then yeah sureStu_of_Kunming said:
Because come the final day of the season, it will have been a success, imo.AberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone6 -
llama_child_21cws said:
Of course I am not saying there isn't a chance, it is unlikely thoughAberystwythAddick said:
You’re delusional if you think there’s not a chance we will get relegatedllama_child_21cws said:
Not a troll just looked at probabilities I've just checked William Hill and you can't even bet on us to get relegated now that's how unlikely it isLeuth said:
You have got to be a troll. Post this again if we secure safetyllama_child_21cws said:
I struggle to see why people are fed up being in the championship 2 years in a row for the first time in 10 years. In a period where the club needs stability, changing managers doesn't make sense unless there is a better alternativeChris_from_Sidcup said:
Why can't people be fed up and want Jones out unless they offer up a suitable alternative?llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone
I'm not even someone who wants him gone (although i accept his job will be in trouble if we do go down), but it's not our job to advise who the next manager should be. There are people at the club paid very good money to do that.
I think Gillesphey and Burke are a waste of wages and we should get rid of both this summer, it doesn't mean i have to email the club with suitable replacements.
We all know it is unlikely but we had the same conversation at the end of the COVID season when Barnsley who had been struggling beat Forest 1-0 which cost Forest the playoffs and then 3 days later on the 22nd July, they won at Brentford 2-1 which cost Brentford automatic promotion.
So I wish I had a poor memory like some of you do and having to be an Owl and a Spanner in the last two games isn't a good scenario.3 -
paulsturgess said:
Compared with the circumstances bowyer managed in and the resources he had available to him in 19/20 , this season we should have been challenging for the titleDazzler21 said:
Erm are we going to ignore the massive gulf in quality of inherited squad?LittleAddick said:This season has actually made the Bowyer Championship season seem more impressive in hindsight. We spent about 200k that season, had 3 proper relegation spots as opposed to this year's 2, lost our best player for half the year, and was under an embargo for January. Yet somehow, this year despite spending 30x more we're barely any better.
That squad would destroy this one.6 -
IMO that's fair.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone0 -
He said at the time we were overperforming, anyone who watched us would agree we were overperforming and winning very ugly...DamoNorthStand said:
To play devils advocate…..Rob said:Nathan Jones has been running scared for a few games now. And he has made some awful decisions. Part of his neurotic personality I’m assuming. I still think he deserves next season to see what he can do with a good window and better players. But Charlton has been a hard watch for a few months now.
- What about if we go down? It can be argued he has been proven capable to get promoted out of that league but would he be able to recover mentally from such a massive collapse this season?
- A good window and better players? When he was here for the last 4-5 windows can we be sure he will suddenly have a better transfer window?
Lots to consider either way.
I would say we need to get the senior structure at the club right pretty sharpish but that’s another discussion entirely0 -
I mean physically you can, but it'd be nice to have some kind of forward planning.The Red Robin said:
Yes you can.llama_child_21cws said:
Who else shall we bring in? You can't say Jones out without an alternative, makes no sense. Not heard one alternative in this threadAberystwythAddick said:
Why?Stu_of_Kunming said:
But we won't, so he should definitely stay.AberystwythAddick said:If we go down he’ll be gone1
