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2026 Pre-Season Thread - fixture list (1st post) - Reading MATCH THREAD Sat 2:15pm (p56)

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  • panther10
    panther10 Posts: 396
    No excuses that was awfull 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 100,644
    panther10 said:
    No excuses that was awfull 
    Surprised you haven't complained about the low turnout as well
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,836
    With the exception of Grant do any of our signings look to be better than what we had last season ? With the signings that we are making & the fact that NJ is having to bring in trialists it doesn't seem to me that our owners are fully behind this & we are sleep walking our way back to Division Three. We had the bullshit last year of how we were promoted a year too soon & despite signing some turkeys Jones performed a miracle to keep us up with a couple of quality loan signings in the January window. I really hoped that we would push on this season & without spending silly money bring in some decent quality championship level signings, instead it seems we are scrabbling around in poundland. Please prove me wrong Charlton.
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,699
    Its absolute genius from jonesy.
    no1 knows his formation or starting lineup for the season opener. Genius. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,846
    There are definitely still major issues with the team, but next week's EFL Cup game has definitely affected the way teams have approached pre season, certainly the way we've approached it, as I'm sure we would have been WAY more focused today if Derby was next week, and not 2 weeks away. Instead we have a "winnable" EFL Cup game to get ready for Derby.

    And without that cup game, the game today would have been against "more exciting" opposition too, which in itself would have upped the performance for a few of the players. Ramsay, for example, was really casual today, whereas against bigger name opposition he would have been properly switched on, for his own career and social media highlight reels, if nothing else.

    It was probably easier for Reading to up their game, playing a team from a higher division.

    Next week is important. We need to get the squad ready, but more importantly need to get our main players and system ready, it really isn't an occasion to play the squad players and kids.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 52,330
    I know, I know. I'm ever the optimist. But I have no concern over this season. (Providing we don't get any early long term injuries... Again.)
  • Dazzler21 said:
    I know, I know. I'm ever the optimist. But I have no concern over this season. (Providing we don't get any early long term injuries... Again.)
    Why though? 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 11,518
    edited August 1
    I only got to watch the first half. It looked like what it was, a mish mash of players not meant to represent the starting eleven when the season opens for business. I would guess the second half with its substitutions would have been similar. I was surprised at the final score when I got to catch up later but it’s a good timely kick up the arse for Nathan and the players 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 28,442
    Long season ahead if this squad doesn’t improve. 
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,279
    We've needed midfield reinforcements since around November. Very disappointing we still haven't got any in 2 weeks before the first league game 

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  • TD_Addick
    TD_Addick Posts: 141
    We've needed midfield reinforcements since around November. Very disappointing we still haven't got any in 2 weeks before the first league game 
    I must admit I am a very positive fan and try not to dwell on the negative but this post hits home. The issue has been there for a long time and is a bit disappointing we haven’t least signed one midfielder. 
  • TD_Addick said:
    We've needed midfield reinforcements since around November. Very disappointing we still haven't got any in 2 weeks before the first league game 
    I must admit I am a very positive fan and try not to dwell on the negative but this post hits home. The issue has been there for a long time and is a bit disappointing we haven’t least signed one midfielder. 
    Exactly, you can’t tell me that within the whole of Europe there wasn’t a midfielder who was 1.available 2. Affordable and 3.of the required level. 

  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,623
    fenaddick said:
    It of interest what would people be saying if this was the league cup match rather than a friendly? 

    Would you be concerned then?
    False equivalence. As Brownie kept saying, the tempo noticeable drops when players know they’re coming off soon. Plus there’s no crowd, a mismatched side and probably less analysis done on the opposition with more focus on ourselves 
    Same type of game on Tuesday behind closed doors. Lets hope we get a better result and performance from our players.
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,809
    TD_Addick said:
    We've needed midfield reinforcements since around November. Very disappointing we still haven't got any in 2 weeks before the first league game 
    I must admit I am a very positive fan and try not to dwell on the negative but this post hits home. The issue has been there for a long time and is a bit disappointing we haven’t least signed one midfielder. 
    Exactly, you can’t tell me that within the whole of Europe there wasn’t a midfielder who was 1.available 2. Affordable and 3.of the required level. 

    I think your key word there is 'affordable'. Millions of pounds don't go very far to buy very good quality midfielders in the Champ. I suspect we have been priced out so far. Being srcond favourites for relegation can't help. Which talented, ambitious player would come here if they have better options.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,950
    arny23394 said:
    RedChaser said:
    sam3110 said:
    RedChaser said:
    Moto said:
    Kaminski needs to have a word with himself.
    No, no mate you mustn’t criticise him neither Lev Yashin or Dino Zoff would have saved that 😏
    Give it a rest you plum, the third goal was a fluke that Kaminski should have been better positioned for, but that doesn't change the fact no-one gets to the free kick
    Chill your beans fella no need for insults, You wanna take a good look in the mirror before you start name calling.
    Always makes me laugh that a 40 year old wrestling fan that looks like that so regularly hands out insults. 


    what's wrong with wrestling 


  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,950
    edited August 1
    Charlton, it's never too late to hire me to be head of recruitment. I'd have got us out of League 1 four years ago and I'd do it for a fraction of the price of whatever you pay these dinosaurs.  ;)




  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,361
    Having seen that display, I'd offer Coady another year and a free Senior bus pass if it means I never again see Doc or Coventry in a Charlton shirt
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,567
    There are definitely still major issues with the team, but next week's EFL Cup game has definitely affected the way teams have approached pre season, certainly the way we've approached it, as I'm sure we would have been WAY more focused today if Derby was next week, and not 2 weeks away. Instead we have a "winnable" EFL Cup game to get ready for Derby.

    And without that cup game, the game today would have been against "more exciting" opposition too, which in itself would have upped the performance for a few of the players. Ramsay, for example, was really casual today, whereas against bigger name opposition he would have been properly switched on, for his own career and social media highlight reels, if nothing else.

    It was probably easier for Reading to up their game, playing a team from a higher division.

    Next week is important. We need to get the squad ready, but more importantly need to get our main players and system ready, it really isn't an occasion to play the squad players and kids.
    If Ramsey not switched on to play Reading, what will he be like against Cheltenham, asleep. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 53,097
    Pathetic so far. A decent team will massacre us.

    Kaminski so slow to react...
    I still think he's short sighted.
    The ball is too often in the net before he even moves.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,894
    I don’t know why they don’t just sack NJ now 
    they’re (so far ) clearly not backing him in this most pathetic of windows and are throwing him under the bus .
    hes not making the season out as our manager unless he produces a miracle with us staying up … no chance 

    Birmingham have Barcelona 
    Scum have Antwerp 
    we get fucking Reading,  if we get any duller  we’d have an ecru away kit …. Oh ….

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  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,950
    I don’t know why they don’t just sack NJ now 
    they’re (so far ) clearly not backing him in this most pathetic of windows and are throwing him under the bus .
    hes not making the season out as our manager unless he produces a miracle with us staying up … no chance 

    Birmingham have Barcelona 
    Scum have Antwerp 
    we get fucking Reading,  if we get any duller  we’d have an ecru away kit …. Oh ….
    Based on our transfer activity so far and looking at the strength of this league, keeping us up this season would be his greatest accolade and I am being deadly serious.

    He is being completely shafted and despite how much I don't enjoy his general footballing style, he's being dealt a very average hand.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,288
    I don’t know why they don’t just sack NJ now 
    they’re (so far ) clearly not backing him in this most pathetic of windows and are throwing him under the bus .
    hes not making the season out as our manager unless he produces a miracle with us staying up … no chance 

    Birmingham have Barcelona 
    Scum have Antwerp 
    we get fucking Reading,  if we get any duller  we’d have an ecru away kit …. Oh ….
    Based on our transfer activity so far and looking at the strength of this league, keeping us up this season would be his greatest accolade and I am being deadly serious.

    He is being completely shafted and despite how much I don't enjoy his general footballing style, he's being dealt a very average hand.
    Sustainably shafted of course😜
  • That was a disgraceful performance today. There is little or no link between any of the respective formats. And they look unfit and disorganised. Our current Manager must take responsibility for this.
    I suspect he has lost the player's respect and belief in him. Where is the creativity he speaks of ? Again, down to his recruitment 

     Midfield was at best, there. Yet again no creativity. Playing wingers seems to expose their deficiencies even more.

    We're on the road to nowhere except relegation with this Board, executive and Manager.
    Buy or die, about 4 or 5 decent players needed.

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,413
    mart77 said:
    It of interest what would people be saying if this was the league cup match rather than a friendly? 

    Would you be concerned then?
    Nah. People will still say it is a meaningless game & the season doesn't start until the Derby match.....or the W.Ham one.....or Millwall away.


    Tbf Golfie I’m somewhat concerned but it’s very much what NJ said in the post match interview, that we’ll all forget about this if it’s a different result in two weeks time. 

    IF. 

    Big IF.

    Sorry to say, unless there are 2 or 3 major signings before then, we will lose against Derby. 

    Last season we limped over the relegation safely line. Winning 1 in God know how many. The football was dire and nothing I saw this afternoon shows me that we have addressed the problems from last season.  
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,413
    We've needed midfield reinforcements since around November. Very disappointing we still haven't got any in 2 weeks before the first league game 
    The Egyptian Cotton bed linen brigade never fail to remind us that NJ had said weeks ago that our recruitment was going to be about quality, not quantity......and NJ himself said on Tuesday evening that we have kept our powder dry. 

    So all I can assume from that is that we have a mega, marque signing, all wrapped up & ready to be unveiled before the Derby match. 

    Because no-one would be that stupid to not plug the massive hole in our team that has been staring at us ever since NJ took charge. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,413
    Pathetic so far. A decent team will massacre us.

    Kaminski so slow to react...
    I still think he's short sighted.
    The ball is too often in the net before he even moves.
    Especially the second goal. At first I thought it must be going wide as he stood there as the ball came off their strikers head and didnt move at all.

     And the 3rd..... Perhaps he thought the club had moved the goalposts as well as the dugouts as, again, he just let the ball fo past him.

    3 goals & not a dive in sight. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,663
    With the exception of Grant do any of our signings look to be better than what we had last season ? With the signings that we are making & the fact that NJ is having to bring in trialists it doesn't seem to me that our owners are fully behind this & we are sleep walking our way back to Division Three. We had the bullshit last year of how we were promoted a year too soon & despite signing some turkeys Jones performed a miracle to keep us up with a couple of quality loan signings in the January window. I really hoped that we would push on this season & without spending silly money bring in some decent quality championship level signings, instead it seems we are scrabbling around in poundland. Please prove me wrong Charlton.
    Ahearne-Grant is the perfect example of who we need, had loads of experience at this level.
    The problem for the board is that they cost money that exceeds their budget.
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,388
    With the exception of Grant do any of our signings look to be better than what we had last season ? With the signings that we are making & the fact that NJ is having to bring in trialists it doesn't seem to me that our owners are fully behind this & we are sleep walking our way back to Division Three. We had the bullshit last year of how we were promoted a year too soon & despite signing some turkeys Jones performed a miracle to keep us up with a couple of quality loan signings in the January window. I really hoped that we would push on this season & without spending silly money bring in some decent quality championship level signings, instead it seems we are scrabbling around in poundland. Please prove me wrong Charlton.
    Ahearne-Grant is the perfect example of who we need, had loads of experience at this level.
    The problem for the board is that they cost money that exceeds their budget.
    His name isn't Ahearne-Grant anymore, as you are well aware.
  • DennisBooth
    DennisBooth Posts: 280
    Dazzler21 said:
    I know, I know. I'm ever the optimist. But I have no concern over this season. (Providing we don't get any early long term injuries... Again.)
    I am just amazed at posts like this. Have you not been watching.? We are clueless in midfield and our big strength, our defence, is all over the place. We are also punchless in attack.
    I Would genuinely like to know why you have no concern for this Season? I can’t see how we avoid the drop this Season.
  • I don’t know why they don’t just sack NJ now 
    they’re (so far ) clearly not backing him in this most pathetic of windows and are throwing him under the bus .
    hes not making the season out as our manager unless he produces a miracle with us staying up … no chance 

    Birmingham have Barcelona 
    Scum have Antwerp 
    we get fucking Reading,  if we get any duller  we’d have an ecru away kit …. Oh ….
    Based on our transfer activity so far and looking at the strength of this league, keeping us up this season would be his greatest accolade and I am being deadly serious.

    He is being completely shafted and despite how much I don't enjoy his general footballing style, he's being dealt a very average hand.
    When you consider our record signing of 4.75 million pounds was 26 years ago - a sum that would be equivalent to 11 - 12 million today it makes one wonder if being sustainable is ... er sustainable.