Nathaniel Chalobah signs a one year deal

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,619
    He was so good he actually managed to convince us Coventry was a quality midfielder as well 

    When Chalobah played in the 1st 4 matches he helped not only Coventry but all players around him as he can scan 360 degrees, shield the ball and pass to a high standard.

    Conor is an all action midfielder but he is an erratic passer and when pushing forward against a skilled Cardiff side gave away so many fouls by running into opposition players.

    Skipp and Coventry are both defensive midfielders (6's) and with Carey being an attacking midfielder (10)
    the lack of a box to box(8) at this level is stark.

    If anyone knows of a hands on medical healer can you put them in touch with CAFC because it's obvious what is the missing link and it's Nathaniel Chalobah who can pick the ball up deep from the defence as well as going on a run to the edge of the opposition box which is the quintessential role that we are missing.

    I assume Holsgrove was on the radar though personally I knew little of his qualities or his weaknesses with his lack of a CV in English football.
  • Chunes said:
    Out for the season?
    Starting to wonder... 

    NJ said he wasn't injured.

    Then it was a "tiny injury."

    Then he said he won't be back after the international break. 
    He also said Koumetio going off at Spurs was "precautionary".

    We haven't seen him since.
  • Unfortunately as soon as the money man wanted out we had to resort to shopping
    in the bargain bin.  

    He’s free / cheap for a reason - and we will do well to get 10 games a season out of him.

    So you don't believe we were ever going to pay around 5 million for Rak-Sakyi with a long contract and a decent wage?

    Chalobah's 1 year contract reflected his injury CV over recent years. Nathaniel looks a class above but we need 20 games from him and that's looking optimistic.

    Oh we were absolutely at the line and if he hadnt been juggling two agents at the same time maybe, but it was a close enough thing that one issue on a medical and it was too much.

    Event with the JRS money (which ultimately didnt happen), its still a collective spend thats childs play nowadays in this league.
  • DoctorCharlton
    DoctorCharlton Posts: 2,583
    any mention of him being back yet? He's the player I think we need most at the moment.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 11,861
    any mention of him being back yet? He's the player I think we need most at the moment.
    Before the international break it was pretty clear that he was not one of the ones considered to be back when football started again.

    I don't think we will be seeing him for a while to be honest.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 19,219
    Louis Mendez doesn't seem to think he's back yet. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 67,588
    Hopefully see him back by Bolton (H) if our top ITKer is correct in the match thread and there’s no setbacks etc.
  • Hopefully see him back by Bolton (H) if our top ITKer is correct in the match thread and there’s no setbacks etc.
    I'm going to go out on a limb and assume there will be numerous set backs
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 67,588
    That’s the spirit
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 3,186
    That’s the spirit
    And yet not a stretch to suggest it🤷🏻‍♂️

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 37,063
    Looks like he is back on the grass if his instagram is anything to go by



    Back on saturday then......😄
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    Looks like he is back on the grass if his instagram is anything to go by




    Funny coloured grass then.
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 1,687
    Looks like he is back on the grass if his instagram is anything to go by



    Back on saturday then......😄
    pessimist...on at halftime!
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    gringo said:
    Looks like he is back on the grass if his instagram is anything to go by



    Back on saturday then......😄
    pessimist...on at halftime!

    With Ouma.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 13,847
    Looks like he is back on the grass if his instagram is anything to go by




    Funny coloured grass then.
    There’s green grass on his boots smarty pants ;)
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,961
    If I look at the Ouma and Chalobah signings, it’s clear we’ve been operating on a budget this summer and been shopping in the second hand store.  That’s not a criticism of Chalobah’s abilities, but a reflection on his injury record and the fact he was an option for the financially screwed and basket case of a club Sheff Wed last season.  

    There’s no way we’re going to get anywhere near the amount of appearances we need from him and as has been rightly pointed out, there could be setbacks and even if he does return in a few weeks, I’d be willing to put money on him being out again before Xmas.  It might sound overly negative, but I don’t see how you can justifiably or confidently argue it will be any different 

    Add Ouma into the equation and it’s clear now there was little to no money to go into the team.  We’ve done well with Koumetio, McNamara and Mesik.  Grant is a good free, but we could end up having wasted a fee on Alli, I just don’t think he’s going to deliver 

    My worry is that if we’re dead set on 4-2-3-1, we’re essentially going with Cov and Skipp as nailed on starters every week.  I think we’ve got a few problems until Jan, and even then, who do we bring in to help 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    cabbles said:
    If I look at the Ouma and Chalobah signings, it’s clear we’ve been operating on a budget this summer and been shopping in the second hand store.  That’s not a criticism of Chalobah’s abilities, but a reflection on his injury record and the fact he was an option for the financially screwed and basket case of a club Sheff Wed last season.  

    There’s no way we’re going to get anywhere near the amount of appearances we need from him and as has been rightly pointed out, there could be setbacks and even if he does return in a few weeks, I’d be willing to put money on him being out again before Xmas.  It might sound overly negative, but I don’t see how you can justifiably or confidently argue it will be any different 

    Add Ouma into the equation and it’s clear now there was little to no money to go into the team.  We’ve done well with Koumetio, McNamara and Mesik.  Grant is a good free, but we could end up having wasted a fee on Alli, I just don’t think he’s going to deliver 

    My worry is that if we’re dead set on 4-2-3-1, we’re essentially going with Cov and Skipp as nailed on starters every week.  I think we’ve got a few problems until Jan, and even then, who do we bring in to help 

    When you are strapped for dough I would have thought that it is all the more reason to try and avoid taking risks knowing players have a certain track record.
    I would have thought bringing in fewer players but ensuring the players you did bring in were of a standard required.
    Quality over quantity is what I am saying.
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 2,104
    gringo said:
    Looks like he is back on the grass if his instagram is anything to go by



    Back on saturday then......😄
    pessimist...on at halftime!
    More likely off at half time because he’s injured again 😂
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,961
    cabbles said:
    If I look at the Ouma and Chalobah signings, it’s clear we’ve been operating on a budget this summer and been shopping in the second hand store.  That’s not a criticism of Chalobah’s abilities, but a reflection on his injury record and the fact he was an option for the financially screwed and basket case of a club Sheff Wed last season.  

    There’s no way we’re going to get anywhere near the amount of appearances we need from him and as has been rightly pointed out, there could be setbacks and even if he does return in a few weeks, I’d be willing to put money on him being out again before Xmas.  It might sound overly negative, but I don’t see how you can justifiably or confidently argue it will be any different 

    Add Ouma into the equation and it’s clear now there was little to no money to go into the team.  We’ve done well with Koumetio, McNamara and Mesik.  Grant is a good free, but we could end up having wasted a fee on Alli, I just don’t think he’s going to deliver 

    My worry is that if we’re dead set on 4-2-3-1, we’re essentially going with Cov and Skipp as nailed on starters every week.  I think we’ve got a few problems until Jan, and even then, who do we bring in to help 

    When you are strapped for dough I would have thought that it is all the more reason to try and avoid taking risks knowing players have a certain track record.
    I would have thought bringing in fewer players but ensuring the players you did bring in were of a standard required.
    Quality over quantity is what I am saying.
    Yeah but I reckon it was the trade offs we were making, ie, IF Chalobah can stay fit, Ouma MAY work out.  The frustrating part is that there’s quite a few of our signings that haven’t or don’t look like working out.  Apter, Tanto, Knibbs, all for fees.  Is Alli going to fall into that bracket?  

    We had a right go last summer in terms of fees and at the time I was behind all the signings and on paper it looked sensible to sign the best of League One.  I genuinely don’t know what we’ll do if start to go on a bad run this season.  Would the owners even care to try and sort it out in Jan.  I’m probably being overly pessimistic 9 games in, but just have a bad feeling we’ve got it horribly wrong this season 

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    cabbles said:
    cabbles said:
    If I look at the Ouma and Chalobah signings, it’s clear we’ve been operating on a budget this summer and been shopping in the second hand store.  That’s not a criticism of Chalobah’s abilities, but a reflection on his injury record and the fact he was an option for the financially screwed and basket case of a club Sheff Wed last season.  

    There’s no way we’re going to get anywhere near the amount of appearances we need from him and as has been rightly pointed out, there could be setbacks and even if he does return in a few weeks, I’d be willing to put money on him being out again before Xmas.  It might sound overly negative, but I don’t see how you can justifiably or confidently argue it will be any different 

    Add Ouma into the equation and it’s clear now there was little to no money to go into the team.  We’ve done well with Koumetio, McNamara and Mesik.  Grant is a good free, but we could end up having wasted a fee on Alli, I just don’t think he’s going to deliver 

    My worry is that if we’re dead set on 4-2-3-1, we’re essentially going with Cov and Skipp as nailed on starters every week.  I think we’ve got a few problems until Jan, and even then, who do we bring in to help 

    When you are strapped for dough I would have thought that it is all the more reason to try and avoid taking risks knowing players have a certain track record.
    I would have thought bringing in fewer players but ensuring the players you did bring in were of a standard required.
    Quality over quantity is what I am saying.
    Yeah but I reckon it was the trade offs we were making, ie, IF Chalobah can stay fit, Ouma MAY work out.  The frustrating part is that there’s quite a few of our signings that haven’t or don’t look like working out.  Apter, Tanto, Knibbs, all for fees.  Is Alli going to fall into that bracket?  

    We had a right go last summer in terms of fees and at the time I was behind all the signings and on paper it looked sensible to sign the best of League One.  I genuinely don’t know what we’ll do if start to go on a bad run this season.  Would the owners even care to try and sort it out in Jan.  I’m probably being overly pessimistic 9 games in, but just have a bad feeling we’ve got it horribly wrong this season 
    The owners are possibly seeing that you lose less money in League 1 and the costs in the Championship are a shock to them.

  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,992
    cabbles said:
    If I look at the Ouma and Chalobah signings, it’s clear we’ve been operating on a budget this summer and been shopping in the second hand store.  That’s not a criticism of Chalobah’s abilities, but a reflection on his injury record and the fact he was an option for the financially screwed and basket case of a club Sheff Wed last season.  

    There’s no way we’re going to get anywhere near the amount of appearances we need from him and as has been rightly pointed out, there could be setbacks and even if he does return in a few weeks, I’d be willing to put money on him being out again before Xmas.  It might sound overly negative, but I don’t see how you can justifiably or confidently argue it will be any different 

    Add Ouma into the equation and it’s clear now there was little to no money to go into the team.  We’ve done well with Koumetio, McNamara and Mesik.  Grant is a good free, but we could end up having wasted a fee on Alli, I just don’t think he’s going to deliver 

    My worry is that if we’re dead set on 4-2-3-1, we’re essentially going with Cov and Skipp as nailed on starters every week.  I think we’ve got a few problems until Jan, and even then, who do we bring in to help 

    When you are strapped for dough I would have thought that it is all the more reason to try and avoid taking risks knowing players have a certain track record.
    I would have thought bringing in fewer players but ensuring the players you did bring in were of a standard required.
    Quality over quantity is what I am saying.
    Doesn't work like that though, otherwise you end up with a great first 11 but are one or two bad injuries from playing dregs or hoping that the kids are alright. The trick is trying to get the quality/quantity balance right, maybe we didn't do that but just getting in proven players who also have spotless injury records would be 1. Very expensive and 2. Leave us with a very shallow squad.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 9,245
    Chalobah is this seasons Chucks - wrap him in cotton wool, don’t play him in anything other than home games and get him off after 60 minutes - that’s the formula 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 13,847
    DOUCHER said:
    Chalobah is this seasons Chucks - wrap him in cotton wool, don’t play him in anything other than home games and get him off after 60 minutes - that’s the formula 
    And don’t let him sprint
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 5,713
    DOUCHER said:
    Chalobah is this seasons Chucks - wrap him in cotton wool, don’t play him in anything other than home games and get him off after 60 minutes - that’s the formula 
    Cheat code...
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,996
    His involvement should be limited, he shouldn't be playing back to back 90 minutes.  Try and delay the next breakdown.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,160
    "Very close" to being back according to NJ
  • Our resident ITK said he should be back for the Bolton game.

    That's 2 and a bit weeks away.
  • As others have said we are far and away a better team with him in the squad. The limiting factor being that we may be without him for more often than not. 

    We need serious reinforcements in the middle come Jan. be that a permanent or a prem youngster that can provide the energy and creativity to move us up the pitch
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,160
    Can be seen with the group in the latest “Inside Training” video on YouTube doing fitness drills but I couldn’t see him in the passing or attacking drills