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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,580
    There is something massively unconvincing about the people investing in AFC Wimbledon 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,326
    edited November 8
    Rothko said:
    There is something massively unconvincing about the people investing in AFC Wimbledon 
    I can't make sense of it. They'll never be majority shareholders and yet seem to be funding absolutely everything , seems like a lot of cash to invest for essentially running the football side of the club 
  • fenaddick said:
    Sword65pf said:
    I feel in time it will come out that the owners have bullshitted us a bit, if NJ sticks around and keeps us up, they are the luckiest fuckers to run a football club. They need to back him in jan, but that’s not going to be easy.
    Nathan Jones isn’t blameless in recruitment all of a sudden just because he won a football match for the first time in twelve attempts. 
    He’s not to blame that the players he wanted to bring in like Galbraith and Holsgrove didn’t materialise. That’s down to the owners not funding the window sufficiently. There have been questionable signings but I can’t help feeling that those players were brought in because that’s all we could afford. I’m not hopeful for January other than the hope we get lucky again with the loans we make. It saved us last season and I sadly suspect we’ll need to get lucky again
    That's way too simplistic. Players have to want to come to you, and that's not just down to money, it's also down to the style of football you play. Galbraith had the option of an established Championship club, who play the sort of passing football he thrives in, and which we don't play. Holsgrove never showed any interest in us.

    If I was a "classy, foot on the ball" midfielder, I'd want to join a passing team, not a direct one, even if they are successful.
    Didn’t Wellens also basically tell him not to join us because the style of football was shite 
    Nothing to do with Wellens being a sore loser of course 
    Sore loser or not he’s right 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,493
    MarcusH26 said:
    Rothko said:
    There is something massively unconvincing about the people investing in AFC Wimbledon 
    I can't make sense of it. They'll never be majority shareholders and yet seem to be funding absolutely everything , seems like a lot of cash to invest for essentially running the football side of the club 
    Like Ratcliffe at Man Utd, it's weird
  • Sword65pf said:
    I feel in time it will come out that the owners have bullshitted us a bit, if NJ sticks around and keeps us up, they are the luckiest fuckers to run a football club. They need to back him in jan, but that’s not going to be easy.
    Nathan Jones isn’t blameless in recruitment all of a sudden just because he won a football match for the first time in twelve attempts. 
    He’s not to blame that the players he wanted to bring in like Galbraith and Holsgrove didn’t materialise. That’s down to the owners not funding the window sufficiently. There have been questionable signings but I can’t help feeling that those players were brought in because that’s all we could afford. I’m not hopeful for January other than the hope we get lucky again with the loans we make. It saved us last season and I sadly suspect we’ll need to get lucky again
    That's way too simplistic. Players have to want to come to you, and that's not just down to money, it's also down to the style of football you play. Galbraith had the option of an established Championship club, who play the sort of passing football he thrives in, and which we don't play. Holsgrove never showed any interest in us.

    If I was a "classy, foot on the ball" midfielder, I'd want to join a passing team, not a direct one, even if they are successful.
    Of course that’s true but there are / were other “classy” midfielders out there and we didn’t / couldn’t sign those either. I’ve no problem with Galbraith choosing Swansea over us or Holsgrove not fancying it but the fact remains we signed Chalobah in the vain hope we’d get games out of him. It’s a repeating pattern of us signing crocks with our fingers crossed. I won’t believe that’s a strategy. It’s something that’s forced onto us through lack of funds. I’m in the camp that firmly puts our playing deficiencies at the door of the ownership not Jones. Until that lack of funding and by definition ambition changes then Jones is screwed. He’s always firefighting. The Championship is unforgiving and so far I think Jones has worked miracles. 
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,584
    Was told earlier the people behind AFC Wimbledon's bid had agreed £70m with our American owners, paperwork was going through when the Americans pulled the plug saying they wanted to go to open competition looking for £80m. £70m bid promptly withdrawn and now our owners struggling to get £30m for us.
    Probably a good thing...


  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,326
    Was told earlier the people behind AFC Wimbledon's bid had agreed £70m with our American owners, paperwork was going through when the Americans pulled the plug saying they wanted to go to open competition looking for £80m. £70m bid promptly withdrawn and now our owners struggling to get £30m for us.
    Probably a good thing...


    Investment priorities changed or the actual money man behind it has got cold feet and realised it's not a good deal more like. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,580
    MarcusH26 said:
    Was told earlier the people behind AFC Wimbledon's bid had agreed £70m with our American owners, paperwork was going through when the Americans pulled the plug saying they wanted to go to open competition looking for £80m. £70m bid promptly withdrawn and now our owners struggling to get £30m for us.
    Probably a good thing...


    Investment priorities changed or the actual money man behind it has got cold feet and realised it's not a good deal more like. 
    Think the money man being near non existent says a lot 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,326
    Rothko said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Was told earlier the people behind AFC Wimbledon's bid had agreed £70m with our American owners, paperwork was going through when the Americans pulled the plug saying they wanted to go to open competition looking for £80m. £70m bid promptly withdrawn and now our owners struggling to get £30m for us.
    Probably a good thing...


    Investment priorities changed or the actual money man behind it has got cold feet and realised it's not a good deal more like. 
    Think the money man being near non existent says a lot 
    Couldn't find a lot about him which is never a good sign with takeovers 
  • I think it’s fair to say our owners are on the way out and it’s only when not if. That said, all we can hope for is that they are not so keen to sell that they are prepared to deal with one of the numerous sharks that are out there circling to bleed a club dry. When we get a new buyer it needs to be someone that’s not a crook or chancer. 

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  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 23,049
    CafcSteve said:
    Lots of people said on here that Jones stormed out of a meeting over budgets in The Summer.

    Sounding like it could have been accurate.
    If my memory serves me correctly, it was only one poster that suggested that, other posters then kind of took that as being gospel.
    It has never been substantiated……..as far as I know.🤔
    Since established it was Reams on the forum who’s name shall not be named.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 12,005
    I think it’s fair to say our owners are on the way out and it’s only when not if. That said, all we can hope for is that they are not so keen to sell that they are prepared to deal with one of the numerous sharks that are out there circling to bleed a club dry. When we get a new buyer it needs to be someone that’s not a crook or chancer. 
    The question for me is whether the entire consortium have collectively decided to pack it in or if one or two individually want out and are simply trying to sell a partial stake.

    I have no idea either way but the potential outcomes and timelines look different in each case.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 3,076
    I do find it confusing though how they were willing to lose 15M in L1 just to get us promoted and then sort of call it a day 2 years later. 

    They may not have the most money but I think the decisions they have made and how they’ve allocated the money they have spent has actually been pretty decent. 

    That being said like when we’ve let certain players go, if they do sell up will be thanking them the upgrade on Duchatelet ESI and Sandgaard has been monumental 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 13,933
    thenewbie said:
    I think it’s fair to say our owners are on the way out and it’s only when not if. That said, all we can hope for is that they are not so keen to sell that they are prepared to deal with one of the numerous sharks that are out there circling to bleed a club dry. When we get a new buyer it needs to be someone that’s not a crook or chancer. 
    The question for me is whether the entire consortium have collectively decided to pack it in or if one or two individually want out and are simply trying to sell a partial stake.

    I have no idea either way but the potential outcomes and timelines look different in each case.

    Friedman is the only one who wants out per se, and I'm sure the others would stay on with a new backer that takes on his financial commitment. However if somebody is covering that, I cant see why they would not just want the whole club and start with a clean slate. 

    As already mentioned by a few on here, the others trying to hang on could end up blocking us from moving forwards at all.

    All we can do is see how this plays out.
  • thenewbie said:
    I think it’s fair to say our owners are on the way out and it’s only when not if. That said, all we can hope for is that they are not so keen to sell that they are prepared to deal with one of the numerous sharks that are out there circling to bleed a club dry. When we get a new buyer it needs to be someone that’s not a crook or chancer. 
    The question for me is whether the entire consortium have collectively decided to pack it in or if one or two individually want out and are simply trying to sell a partial stake.

    I have no idea either way but the potential outcomes and timelines look different in each case.
    Its one of the reasons I think anyone wanting to buy us will have a very difficult job. Our ownership structure is so complicated and I’d guess unless all parts of the consortium agree to sell we’ll struggle to find a buyer. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,326
    thenewbie said:
    I think it’s fair to say our owners are on the way out and it’s only when not if. That said, all we can hope for is that they are not so keen to sell that they are prepared to deal with one of the numerous sharks that are out there circling to bleed a club dry. When we get a new buyer it needs to be someone that’s not a crook or chancer. 
    The question for me is whether the entire consortium have collectively decided to pack it in or if one or two individually want out and are simply trying to sell a partial stake.

    I have no idea either way but the potential outcomes and timelines look different in each case.

    Friedman is the only one who wants out per se, and I'm sure the others would stay on with a new backer that takes on his financial commitment. However if somebody is covering that, I cant see why they would not just want the whole club and start with a clean slate. 

    As already mentioned by a few on here, the others trying to hang on could end up blocking us from moving forwards at all.

    All we can do is see how this plays out.
    This is my main worry , I don't see why anyone would just buy Friedmans stake only and not buy the whole thing. I completely get the likes of Brener wanting to stay around but I just don't see a situation where that's feasible as opposed to a full sale. 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 31,593
    Birmingham City have announced that Tom Brady has left the club 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 37,126
    Birmingham City have announced that Tom Brady has left the club 
    It couldn't be.. .could it ?

  • Birmingham City have announced that Tom Brady has left the club 
    It couldn't be.. .could it ?

    No
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,976
    I do find it confusing though how they were willing to lose 15M in L1 just to get us promoted and then sort of call it a day 2 years later. 

    They may not have the most money but I think the decisions they have made and how they’ve allocated the money they have spent has actually been pretty decent. 

    That being said like when we’ve let certain players go, if they do sell up will be thanking them the upgrade on Duchatelet ESI and Sandgaard has been monumental 
    The rumour when they first took over was that they were looking for a quick flip. Get the club promoted, keep it in the championship, and then sell at a profit. So that does fit, but the problem is they’ve lost so much money carrying out their plan that they won’t now be able to sell for a profit, which I’d imagine is the problem now that they have set a price too high and can’t find anyone to pay it