The most sensible comment in the heat of post match analysis comes from a contributor to the BBC blog site
Spain have 750 fully qualified Grade A UEFA trained coaches compared to under 150 in England. But that’s not even the clincher. The most striking point is this, 150 Grade coaches in England all coach at professional or semi professional level to fully grown men. 640 of the Grade A coaches in Spain teach in SCHOOLS. They coach 5 year olds and up how to play the game. One touch football, pass and move, to actually think about the game when playing. Have a football brain and use it. 15 years ago the Spanish F.A and government changed the whole youth set up from 5 years of age up. 15 years later and they have a group of maybe 7 or 8 world class players in their national team! Sheer luck? Coincidence? I don’t think so.
Surely the FA taking this direction is worth a try. It was laughable today, and something has to be done (just like it has to be done in the world of tennis
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The pace of our back four, fuck me, I have seen Bolton put on a braver display.
Drop some of the primadonnas. perahps then we can beat the USA.
It's not that the current players can't control and pass the ball, there's just no one that level above, with that little bit extra. They're good (in a world scale), but none are the very best in the world or quite close to it.
Capello is a good manager but he has made a lot of mistakes in this tournament through intransigence and being stubborn. However, as a manager who has never been a manager of a team in a tournament the question is will he learn from this and can he take this experience and build on it, can the FA afford to push him given that they have re negotiated his contract to remove the break clause,whois there that couldtake over from him.
As for the team they were poor and lacked cohesion and the worry is that if you look beyond them who is there that will take over from this generation and if these are the golden generation what are the next group coming through?
Yer, everything is fine, and the fact we haven't come close to winning in a World Cup in 40 years has everything to do with 'players who have no passion' and nothing to do with the fact that the system in which we develop our young players.
pumped into foreign talent , or not so talented.
The existing English players at prem clubs are getting fewer by the year, and if it was'nt for cts like andy gray bigging them up on sky, they really are not that great.
For me at the moment this group of players are just not good enough however that result today shouldn't have happened. I know a lot of the press will try and put it down to the manager as some of these players seem untouchable when it comes to criticism and while he should take some of the blame the big players did not perform (again) and the basic stuff was ignored, for me that is not the manager's fault but the players and they have to be big enough to take the blame.
The question may be how many Arsenal players in the England squad, the answer is how many English players in the Arsenal team.
Give the man a dime bar!
And another thing.Have a look at the Argie v Mex game tonight and notice how many players can use BOTH feet.I've said it before ,it opens so much more of the game up to a player.
If i was on 90 grand a week to play the beautiful game every day of my working life then i think i'd have the decency to learn to use my other bloody foot.
Lazy cnuts!
We could have as many coaches as you want but if they're just going to keep asking kids to play on full size pitches and hoofing the ball up the pitch it won't change. We need to learn from other countries and get more foreign coaches running our game at a lower level because we clearly haven't got a clue. We need to reduce competetions at under 12 level and place more emphasis on keeping the ball, dribbling, flair, imagination, attacking in numbers, controlling the tempo, movement on and off the ball, judgement etc. NOT heading, long passing, slide tackles etc.
We should also clamp down on allowing anyone off the street running kids teams if they are not willing to take the relevant coaching courses. The FA should also be funding local councils, counties and districts to provide them with coaches or even borrowing players from local clubs for a few hours a week.
There's so much wrong with our footballing culture and it could take 30 years before we begin to see results - assuming we are willing to change our ways.
Spain have 750 fully qualified Grade A UEFA trained coaches compared to under 150 in England. But that’s not even the clincher. The most striking point is this, 150 Grade coaches in England all coach at professional or semi professional level to fully grown men. 640 of the Grade A coaches in Spain teach in SCHOOLS. They coach 5 year olds and up how to play the game. One touch football, pass and move, to actually think about the game when playing. Have a football brain and use it. 15 years ago the Spanish F.A and government changed the whole youth set up from 5 years of age up. 15 years later and they have a group of maybe 7 or 8 world class players in their national team! Sheer luck? Coincidence? I don’t think so.
Surely the FA taking this direction is worth a try. It was laughable today, and something has to be done (just like it has to be done in the world of tennis[/quote]
We could have as many coaches as you want but if they're just going to keep asking kids to play on full size pitches and hoofing the ball up the pitch it won't change. We need to learn from other countries and get more foreign coaches running our game at a lower level because we clearly haven't got a clue. We need to reduce competetions at under 12 level and place more emphasis on keeping the ball, dribbling, flair, imagination, attacking in numbers, controlling the tempo, movement on and off the ball, judgement etc. NOT heading, long passing, slide tackles etc.
We should also clamp down on allowing anyone off the street running kids teams if they are not willing to take the relevant coaching courses. The FA should also be funding local councils, counties and districts to provide them with coaches or even borrowing players from local clubs for a few hours a week.
There's so much wrong with our footballing culture and it could take 30 years before we begin to see results - assuming we are willing to change our ways.[/quote]
so we reduce 11 a side by a year, for fuck sake until under 11 last year of primary school we play mini soccer wise up for christ sake and stop jumping on the pr band wagon.IT IS DOWN TO SKY WHAT HAS FUCKED OUR NATIONAL GAME
All four goals were preventable - our back four played like strangers who'd only just been introduced to each other and didn't bother to either mark attackers or simply went AWOL. The midfield was too static and upfront there was too little movement into the box, Germany played a very narrow game, concentrating too many players in central midfield - only late in the first half did Milner get enough ball out wide to stretch them. The German defence and keeper are nothing special, but how often were they put under consistent pressure? How often were balls played at angles for Defoe/Rooney to run onto and create something? The argument about teaching skills at youth level is fine, but pointless unless you are going to develop a cohesive team ethic and play to a set of tactics and a strategy that identies weaknesses in opponents and plays to your strengths and then you have to have a set of players with some idea of how they are going to win.
England today were very naive in their strategy and its implementation.
From here we do need to focus on youth coaching, but that isn't going to win us the next European Championship or World Cup. Perhaps it's time to get players in who might not be starts, but will graft for the team. Germany's best striker is Kevin Kuranyi, however although he's a good goal scorer he's not a team player, hence he's not in Germany's squad and hasn't been for two or more years and may never make another squad. That's another difference - in Germany the team are expected to defend and the team win or lose together - anyone not prepared to pull their weight is unlikely to get more than a few caps.
Thats what I said isn't it?
As for Sky ruining our game? Don't be so naive. Sky aren't the ones making our clubs buy foreign players instead of giving English players a chance . They also aren't responsible for big clubs bulk buying every half decent young English player and leaving them in their reserves teams, never to be seen again. I haven't seen Murdoch down any local parks coaching our kids either.
Neither Lennon nor SWP looked the part as wingers and eventually Milner had to come over from the left wing to play wide right.
I agree to some extent but we have made quarters/semis in the past.Now we just manage to scrape past the group stage.stuck in reverse.
The current England team have some great players but as soon as you ask them to play to a style that they aren't used to playing in for their clubs they seem to lose interest and look clueless.
Totally agree and think this should be the way forward now. The older lot have had their chance and won't be around for the next World Cup so lets chuck a few decent U-21's into the mix and let them develop into a team. Germany have 9 of their U-21 squad from last summer at the World Cup, how many do we have? They beat us in the final, so our youngsters are far from useless. Another thing about giving younger players a chance is that they have no fear and play with more freedom.
For that to happen the national team need to play more games. Mexico played 8 games in 4 weeks in the lead up the this World Cup and look a decent unit for it and just lacked a bit of quality tonight.