Happy with this. Well done Dave. Glad Firmani made it in because even though it was (well) before my time didn't we sell him for a world record transfer fee or something...
I find it a bit sad that Steve Gritt did not get a mention...to me he was the Steve Brown of his era. Quite rightly neither of them made the team.
Just hope Alan Curbishley and Darren Bent aren't too disappointed when they see 442.
We went in a pub after the game (sportsman?) and got chatting with the locals
Behind the bar was a blackboard with 'Stew & dumplings-£2' written on it
Then the huddlesfield lads who we were drinking with explained that all the regulars are boycotting the food
because last week it was only £1.50!
CommentAuthorSix-a-bag-of-nuts CommentTime14 hours ago quote# 107
Posted By: AshTray
Similarly Firmani played most or all of his games for us in the second division.
Poppycock!
Years Club App (Gls)
1950–1955 Charlton Athletic 112 (51)
1955–1958 Sampdoria 63 (52)
1958–1961 Internazionale 82 (48)
The above shows his record in the top-flight for Charlton and also his record in Serie A after transferring for a then British record fee.
He returned to Charlton in 1964 by then in the second division, where in 2 separate spels he scored 38 in 65 games.
Also capped 3 times by Italy.
Only one problem with that team, I have never seen us play 3-4-1-2, especially with one centre back. On that basis I'm not sure it's a fair reflection of Charlton's tradition but you can't really argue that all those listed have a more than reasonable claim to a place.
[cite]Posted By: Exiled_Addick[/cite]Only one problem with that team, I have never seen us play 3-4-1-2, especially with one centre back. On that basis I'm not sure it's a fair reflection of Charlton's tradition but you can't really argue that all those listed have a more than reasonable claim to a place.
Agreed ... but we went for it because we wanted to include more forwards and midfielders. If you plough back through this thread, you'll see that the general opinion was that we have not been blessed with too many top class central defenders.
On the evidence Johnny Summers had a much better scoring rate for Charlton than any other of the othered favoured strikers - 0.56 goals per league match (100 in 177 matches), compared with Firmani at 0.50 (89 in 177), Mendonca at 0.47 (40 in 84), Hales at 0.46 (148 in 320), Bent at 0.46 (31 in 68), Leary at 0.40 (153 in 376) and Vaughan at 0.40 (91 in 226).
Rufus- is my favourite all time player - what we wouldn't give to find another one - maybe Cousins is it- I really hope so. I rememebr when Chrissy got his first call up - we were delighted for him but shocked because everybody thought it would be Rufus. He would have been very effective for England as he was at the time the best man marking defender in the Country which was sorely needed. He had pace too which gave him that get out of jail free card.
just quickly flicked through this ( so this is not definitive ). Always interested in how ex Addicks are featured with other clubs.
Redfearn 'thethree club' legend makes the Barnsley ,Docaster and Oldham teams . SCP is with Southend as well as us, Like wise Kinsella makes the Colchester team with Benny Fenton . Matt Elliott makes both Leicester and Oxford , Linvoy Primus Portsmouth and Barnet , Harry Cripps at Millwall , Mark Bowen Norwich , Alan Macdonald QPR , Graeme Murty Phil Parkinson and Martin Hicks Reading , John Barnes Watford ,Curbs ( surprisingly )is in the Brighton line up , Matt Holland Bournemouth , Michael Turner Brentford and Hull , Paul Benson Daggers, Izale Mcloed MK Dons , Mark Stuart Rochdale , Tommy Taylor Orient ,Garry Nelson Plymouth , Dean Kiely Bury , Jim Stannard Gillingham , Cliff Holton Northam[pton , TonyTowner and Ronnie Moore Rotherham, Ricky Otto Southend ( with SCP )
Lawrie Madden at Sheff Wed? Scott Parker at West Ham? Robert Lee at Newcastle? Alan Kimble at Wimbledon? Mark Bright at Crystal Palace? Tom Hovi at Valerenga?
[cite]Posted By: Richard J[/cite]just quickly flicked through this ( so this is not definitive ). Always interested in how ex Addicks are featured with other clubs.
Redfearn 'thethree club' legend makes the Barnsley ,Docaster and Oldham teams . SCP is with Southend as well as us, Like wise Kinsella makes the Colchester team with Benny Fenton . Matt Elliott makes both Leicester and Oxford , Linvoy Primus Portsmouth and Barnet , Harry Cripps at Millwall , Mark Bowen Norwich , Alan Macdonald QPR , Graeme Murty Phil Parkinson and Martin Hicks Reading , John Barnes Watford ,Curbs ( surprisingly )is in the Brighton line up , Matt Holland Bournemouth , Michael Turner Brentford and Hull , Paul Benson Daggers, Izale Mcloed MK Dons , Mark Stuart Rochdale , Tommy Taylor Orient ,Garry Nelson Plymouth , Dean Kiely Bury , Jim Stannard Gillingham , Cliff Holton Northam[pton , TonyTowner and Ronnie Moore Rotherham, Ricky Otto Southend ( with SCP )
Good work Richard. I took one look at the £4+ asking price and thought they were taking the piss for something that's been cobbled together by fans on the internet.
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Young Fish Costa Fortune
Bent Bent
just needs a midfield..
drools over keyboard
Bonds Rufus Welsh Powell
Parker Bailey
Di Canio. Simonsen
Bent Hales
sub - Peacock
Best Away Fans - Brighton
Best Home Fans - Sheff Wed
Best Away Ground -Huddersfield
Best Food - MK Dons
I find it a bit sad that Steve Gritt did not get a mention...to me he was the Steve Brown of his era. Quite rightly neither of them made the team.
Just hope Alan Curbishley and Darren Bent aren't too disappointed when they see 442.
We went in a pub after the game (sportsman?) and got chatting with the locals
Behind the bar was a blackboard with 'Stew & dumplings-£2' written on it
Then the huddlesfield lads who we were drinking with explained that all the regulars are boycotting the food
because last week it was only £1.50!
Great work
Posted By: AshTray
Similarly Firmani played most or all of his games for us in the second division.
Poppycock!
Years Club App (Gls)
1950–1955 Charlton Athletic 112 (51)
1955–1958 Sampdoria 63 (52)
1958–1961 Internazionale 82 (48)
The above shows his record in the top-flight for Charlton and also his record in Serie A after transferring for a then British record fee.
He returned to Charlton in 1964 by then in the second division, where in 2 separate spels he scored 38 in 65 games.
Also capped 3 times by Italy.
My first Charlton hero - he gets my vote
I stand corrected!
Posted By: AshTray
(Best was probably the most overrated player to play football by what I've heard)
Sorry Ash, but only somebody who didn't see him play or an idiot would say that
As I fall into both categories, I stand by my statement.
Happy with the final team , but still believe that Colin Walsh should have made the cut above Lee.
Club legend last goal at the old Valley versus first goal at the new Valley , but also in terms of balance he is a left footer.
He was an outstanding player.
Agreed.
Who would you have left out to accommodate Leary?
Agreed ... but we went for it because we wanted to include more forwards and midfielders. If you plough back through this thread, you'll see that the general opinion was that we have not been blessed with too many top class central defenders.
definitely, but you'd have to miss out on one of mendonca firmani, bent or summers
Redfearn 'thethree club' legend makes the Barnsley ,Docaster and Oldham teams . SCP is with Southend as well as us, Like wise Kinsella makes the Colchester team with Benny Fenton . Matt Elliott makes both Leicester and Oxford , Linvoy Primus Portsmouth and Barnet , Harry Cripps at Millwall , Mark Bowen Norwich , Alan Macdonald QPR , Graeme Murty Phil Parkinson and Martin Hicks Reading , John Barnes Watford ,Curbs ( surprisingly )is in the Brighton line up , Matt Holland Bournemouth , Michael Turner Brentford and Hull , Paul Benson Daggers, Izale Mcloed MK Dons , Mark Stuart Rochdale , Tommy Taylor Orient ,Garry Nelson Plymouth , Dean Kiely Bury , Jim Stannard Gillingham , Cliff Holton Northam[pton , TonyTowner and Ronnie Moore Rotherham, Ricky Otto Southend ( with SCP )
Good work Richard. I took one look at the £4+ asking price and thought they were taking the piss for something that's been cobbled together by fans on the internet.
Kiely
Young Rufus Costa Powell
Di Canio Parker Jensen Robinson
Mendonca Bent
Subs: Carson, Kishishev, Fish, Kinsella, Mortimer, Murphy, Hunt
Three at the back?
Fcuk me - when have you EVER seen us play three at the back?
Err ... whenever Rufus and Firmani played together in the same team?