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  • my dog is going through the wars which I suppose comes with age.

    he needs support for his malfunctioning kidneys which comes in the shape of specific diet and medication but what's worrying me the most right now is his back legs are weak and he constantly falls over but manages to get up.

    I once saw a little jack russell that had back wheels as support for his rear. I guess it may be manageable with a small dog but would you do it on a medium or large dog? I would have thought no in your size dog t c e but mines a border collie so medium size but is it fair? looking at a number of websites they do show pics of large dogs, like alsatians

    nobody wants to lose their best buddies but is is it right?
  • Scapa yesterday.
    He's come along well. He is a very friendly chap, loves every person and dog he meets. Not so good with cats! But he is a terrier so thats to be expected. He is left alone very night now, and is completely fine with it. Well pleased.
    Thanks for the advice TCE.
  • T.C.E said:

    Puppy classes are great for their socialisation, something our rescue obviously missed out on so much so she even barks at dogs on the TV. With the long lead ( I would have something about 20ft) just hook him up and throw the other end on the floor, if he tries to disappear just stand on the end. Try to pick it up and even a light weight puppy will burn your hands, especially childrens. Use a treat or toy and start about a yard away waving the treat/toy waving your arms about and screaming like a teenage girl not very macho but thats the way it goes (North London Addick loves that bit. Lol) the curiosity will bring you puppy over, if it goes the other way he's finding something more interesting than you.
    I'm on holiday for a week if you want to meet up and help where and if you think you need any.

    That would be brilliant as I'm off this week too! Would really help us get Milford off on the right track. I'll send you my details over a pm if that's ok with you?
  • my dog is going through the wars which I suppose comes with age.

    he needs support for his malfunctioning kidneys which comes in the shape of specific diet and medication but what's worrying me the most right now is his back legs are weak and he constantly falls over but manages to get up.

    I once saw a little jack russell that had back wheels as support for his rear. I guess it may be manageable with a small dog but would you do it on a medium or large dog? I would have thought no in your size dog t c e but mines a border collie so medium size but is it fair? looking at a number of websites they do show pics of large dogs, like alsatians

    nobody wants to lose their best buddies but is is it right?

    Thats such a difficult shout.
    Many a time when Bailey has struggled to get up and when he has he's crashed into the furniture and toppled again, I've thought along those lines.
    "I think"
    As much as I (and lots of other people) get so much from this fella, he's a working dog and expected to live maybe another 10 years.
    *I think*
    I would let him go! (you'll never know how hard that was to type)
    If on Tuesday a decision is made to operate on his neck, it will only be made if the quality his life will be improved. I will not put him through again what he went through before for him to stay the same. I owe Bailey so much and I think he would rather leave us with dignity than me keep him going. If he's to stay a house dog thats not a problem to us, as people that have met him will tell you he's so chilled out that wouldnt be a problem to him either, he would still have the "Upbeats visits" and his obedience work can be done in the garden, other than keeping his weight in check which is difficult. But keeping him home and in pain, I couldnt let that happen. We owe our pets a quality of life, something 3+ years ago I was a "Its just a dog, get over it person) with estimates of this operation costing £7,000 and around 16k already spent, resources and experts will have been exhausted and a decision will have to be made and I pray its not a life or death one.
    As far as the website, the advertisers love a Shep for a poster.
    Does your dog Bark/bite or need a harness/trolley it shows the product will supposedly be good enough for the biggest of dogs. There's no doubt Sheps are big and strong, but there's not one person on here who couldnt walk Bailey down the road without getting dragged all over the place you will always get out what you put in to your dog.
  • edited August 2013
    EastStand said:

    Scapa yesterday.
    He's come along well. He is a very friendly chap, loves every person and dog he meets. Not so good with cats! But he is a terrier so thats to be expected. He is left alone very night now, and is completely fine with it. Well pleased.

    Thanks for the advice TCE.

    Pleased I could help, but as for cats.............

    Keep it quiet, but I was road walking Bailey "off lead" (Yes, I know thats not allowed) when a neighbour's visitor was putting some rubbish out, unknown to me he had left the door open and Bailey had spotted a cat in the house and took off through the house after the cat. The guy shot into the house only to be faced with Bailey so he retreated telling me "get that dog out here" as I approached the door out came Bailey (ears down) Aunty Joan as she's known (an 82 lady) was watching the racing when Bailey charged in. She told me almost apologetically that she had told him off for scaring her cat, took him by the collar and frog marched him out the door.
    That cost me a bunch of flowers. ;)
  • Rylo said:

    T.C.E said:

    Puppy classes are great for their socialisation, something our rescue obviously missed out on so much so she even barks at dogs on the TV. With the long lead ( I would have something about 20ft) just hook him up and throw the other end on the floor, if he tries to disappear just stand on the end. Try to pick it up and even a light weight puppy will burn your hands, especially childrens. Use a treat or toy and start about a yard away waving the treat/toy waving your arms about and screaming like a teenage girl not very macho but thats the way it goes (North London Addick loves that bit. Lol) the curiosity will bring you puppy over, if it goes the other way he's finding something more interesting than you.
    I'm on holiday for a week if you want to meet up and help where and if you think you need any.

    That would be brilliant as I'm off this week too! Would really help us get Milford off on the right track. I'll send you my details over a pm if that's ok with you?
    I'm at the green behind Shootershill nick everyday, obviously I'm unsure whats happening after Tuesday, so tomorrow or Monday a bit short notice for you.

  • I'm at the green behind Shootershill nick everyday, obviously I'm unsure whats happening after Tuesday, so tomorrow or Monday a bit short notice for you.



    Monday is good. What time do you normally go up there?
  • Around 10.30/11.00 is that any good?
    I'll bring Bailey and a tracking lead which you can use on Milford, if can bring treats or a favourite toy. Incidently, if he has a favourite toy take it away from him now and that will become only his training toy, find him something different to play with daily. We'll let him follow Bailey around to get used to him, Bailey will ignore any puppy behaviour, jumping up etc. If Milford takes any liberties (I'm sure he wont) :) he will get told off, not by me or you but he will get told off. That has to be allowed to happen, but please dont worry Bailey just growls and walks off which is why I wont bring Xena that would be a different result, but its all about hierarchy and respect in the dog world ;)
  • edited August 2013
    Does your dog Bark/bite or need a harness/trolley it shows the product will supposedly be good enough for the biggest of dogs. There's no doubt Sheps are big and strong, but there's not one person on here who couldnt walk Bailey down the road without getting dragged all over the place you will always get out what you put in to your dog.


    no he doesn't bite but he does bark alot. i'm not sure if i'd go for a trolley, that's if i could go for one in the first place but maybe a sling style were one just supports the back legs but it's so difficult and i understand why you wouldn't

    i think if my vet suggested it, i'd feel better but certainly not just for my sake, he would always come first.
  • You right it would be a difficult decision, a smaller dog requiring less exercise would in my opinion be better suited.
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  • T.C.E said:

    Around 10.30/11.00 is that any good?
    I'll bring Bailey and a tracking lead which you can use on Milford, if can bring treats or a favourite toy. Incidently, if he has a favourite toy take it away from him now and that will become only his training toy, find him something different to play with daily. We'll let him follow Bailey around to get used to him, Bailey will ignore any puppy behaviour, jumping up etc. If Milford takes any liberties (I'm sure he wont) :) he will get told off, not by me or you but he will get told off. That has to be allowed to happen, but please dont worry Bailey just growls and walks off which is why I wont bring Xena that would be a different result, but its all about hierarchy and respect in the dog world ;)

    10.30 is great for us. I'll bring him down then - should be interesting!
  • will be Ray and bailey are top draw
  • will be Ray and bailey are top draw

    Why thank you kind Sir........

  • Bailey this morning, doing his best for the camera. ;)image
  • Rylo said:

    T.C.E said:

    Around 10.30/11.00 is that any good?
    I'll bring Bailey and a tracking lead which you can use on Milford, if can bring treats or a favourite toy. Incidently, if he has a favourite toy take it away from him now and that will become only his training toy, find him something different to play with daily. We'll let him follow Bailey around to get used to him, Bailey will ignore any puppy behaviour, jumping up etc. If Milford takes any liberties (I'm sure he wont) :) he will get told off, not by me or you but he will get told off. That has to be allowed to happen, but please dont worry Bailey just growls and walks off which is why I wont bring Xena that would be a different result, but its all about hierarchy and respect in the dog world ;)

    10.30 is great for us. I'll bring him down then - should be interesting!
    See you there...

  • Yes mate, see you soon.
  • Lucca, me missus field spaniel. God knows why the snap has come out side ways, it ain't saved like that...

    image
  • Good looking Dog, do yours live outside Rob?
    Mine have the kennels, but live indoors.
  • Rylo said:

    T.C.E said:

    Puppy classes are great for their socialisation, something our rescue obviously missed out on so much so she even barks at dogs on the TV. With the long lead ( I would have something about 20ft) just hook him up and throw the other end on the floor, if he tries to disappear just stand on the end. Try to pick it up and even a light weight puppy will burn your hands, especially childrens. Use a treat or toy and start about a yard away waving the treat/toy waving your arms about and screaming like a teenage girl not very macho but thats the way it goes (North London Addick loves that bit. Lol) the curiosity will bring you puppy over, if it goes the other way he's finding something more interesting than you.
    I'm on holiday for a week if you want to meet up and help where and if you think you need any.

    That would be brilliant as I'm off this week too! Would really help us get Milford off on the right track. I'll send you my details over a pm if that's ok with you?
    Good to meet you both this morning, he's a great little fella and with the perseverance with him he'll come on bundles.
    Remember he's only a baby, dont try to do to much to quickly and lots of play as a reward, remembering what you saw Bailey doing has taken 3+ years and he still has his moments as you saw. Lots of play, lots of fuss and remember to relax around your dog, the more fun you make it for yourself, the more he'll have. As promised, I found the photos of Bailey and Xena playing with their tug toys. Bailey was a bit more agile then. ;)

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  • Thanks again Ray for the good advice - very much appreciated!
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  • Bailey went up to the Royal Veterinary College today and although they have yet to confirm they believe they have found the problem. Which will be (if confirmed be treatable with monthly injections and medication. Insurance companies have now him virtually uninsurable as one of symptons is lameness. He hopefully will be released tomorrow........
    Here he is today in the college grounds he loves the horses, although there was a fence between them. But the sheep, which had never seen before worried him enough to make him walk away. #Tartimageimage
  • I hope it all comes good pal
  • edited August 2013
    I think we have cracked it, currently at RVC awaiting for Bailey to be well enough to travel. They have found a imbalance in his Thyroid Gland this treatable with drugs for life. Its been a long journey with him 6 different Vets and 5 different opinions and a wheelbarrow of cash not all insurance either. But the main thing is he will be back to his old self in a week or so and I'm going to get very drunk tonight....................

    Edited........Home now
  • Great news T.C.E, really glad you've finally got to the bottom of things.
  • More good news!! It's rolling in this afternoon. Cheers
  • Pub tonight? if anyones local.......... ;)
  • Rylo said:

    Great news T.C.E, really glad you've finally got to the bottom of things.

    Thanks mate.

  • Curb_It said:

    More good news!! It's rolling in this afternoon. Cheers

    More!!
    What else has happened??
    I've been wrapped up in my own little world. :(

  • Good news Ray. :-)
  • The news re jim Davidson above. Enjoy your drinks.
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