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  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 5,696
    edited April 2021
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  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    Just putting this out there. Others will have seen Kevin's post on social media (I don't know him really well but we have a lot of mutual friends).

    Kevin's car was stolen at 04.20am from outside the Royal Oak this morning.

    Registration: HF15 TKO

    Land Rover (not sure what model).
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,610
    Land Rover sport, grey.

    Sadly without a tracker very few get recovered, LR are now the most stolen cars by quite some margin.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,835
    scumbags - lots of car theft in that area it seems
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,610
    scumbags - lots of car theft in that area it seems
    It's got to epidemic proportions. I placed some reinsurance for one of the UK's largest insurers earlier this year, car theft has gone up 10 fold in the past 4 years. Land Rover vehicles account for over 20% of all thefts and only a few % get recovered/found.

    of the top 10 most stolen models Land Rover fills half of the top 10!

    A high proportion are keyless thefts so make sure you use faraday pouches/boxes and double check they work regularly. Keyless is just about the worst invention for cars.

    But also you can buy a master key that opens most vehicles (by make) for less than £200, it's not been unknown for a whole street to wake up and every car is unlocked.

    The old fashioned physical security of steering locks and bollards if parking on a drive are the biggest deterrent and never leave anything of value or any paperwork in the car.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,746
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,624
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,626
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,194
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
    Fucking hate our Defender (13 plate) I want it nicked , utter shit gears and need Steve Thompson’s  legs to push the clutch down 
    gonna take the father in laws last millennium one which is ten times easier to drive .



  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,194
    Surely the stolen vehicle had a tracker on it or did that get binned when nicked 

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  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,496
    I’ve got a Discovery......bit worried about this information!
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,071
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
    Sounds like your Defender needs a lot of defending!
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,626
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
    Fucking hate our Defender (13 plate) I want it nicked , utter shit gears and need Steve Thompson’s  legs to push the clutch down 
    gonna take the father in laws last millennium one which is ten times easier to drive .



    If your clutch is like that, check the clutch fluid level in the slave cylinder in the engine bay - should be at the top of the engine at the back behind steering wheel - prone to leaking, need topping up regularly - simply unscrew plastic lid and top up - check your Manuel, as you have to use right type of fluid

    I love my Defender - yes has all the annoying issues you get with a Land Rover, but I feel like king of the road in it, and off road / wading, it’s superb
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,496
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
    Fucking hate our Defender (13 plate) I want it nicked , utter shit gears and need Steve Thompson’s  legs to push the clutch down 
    gonna take the father in laws last millennium one which is ten times easier to drive .



    If your clutch is like that, check the clutch fluid level in the slave cylinder in the engine bay - should be at the top of the engine at the back behind steering wheel - prone to leaking, need topping up regularly - simply unscrew plastic lid and top up - check your Manuel, as you have to use right type of fluid

    I love my Defender - yes has all the annoying issues you get with a Land Rover, but I feel like king of the road in it, and off road / wading, it’s superb
    Is your Manuel written in Spanish?
    “I can speak English, I learn it from a book.” 🤣
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
    Fucking hate our Defender (13 plate) I want it nicked , utter shit gears and need Steve Thompson’s  legs to push the clutch down 
    gonna take the father in laws last millennium one which is ten times easier to drive .



    ........ simply unscrew plastic lid and top up - check your Manuel, as you have to use right type of fluid


    "He's from Barcelona" :smile:




  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,626
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
    Fucking hate our Defender (13 plate) I want it nicked , utter shit gears and need Steve Thompson’s  legs to push the clutch down 
    gonna take the father in laws last millennium one which is ten times easier to drive .



    If your clutch is like that, check the clutch fluid level in the slave cylinder in the engine bay - should be at the top of the engine at the back behind steering wheel - prone to leaking, need topping up regularly - simply unscrew plastic lid and top up - check your Manuel, as you have to use right type of fluid

    I love my Defender - yes has all the annoying issues you get with a Land Rover, but I feel like king of the road in it, and off road / wading, it’s superb
    Is your Manuel written in Spanish?
    “I can speak English, I learn it from a book.” 🤣
    Fuck - didn’t notice that 😳
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,610
    Surely the stolen vehicle had a tracker on it or did that get binned when nicked 
    It would have had one as standard but most people don't want to pay the annual fee so don't bother. Pretty useless unless you see it getting nicked anyway as LR always put them in the same place so take 30 seconds to remove it.
  • Charlton_Charlie
    Charlton_Charlie Posts: 1,428
    Several Discoverys nicked in Westcombe Park area over the last few weeks...mine is the 'sport' version and am hoping nobody wants that too... (still use a steering lock and keep the keys well away from the front of the house though...)
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,610
    I’ve got a Discovery......bit worried about this information!
    Get a steering lock minimum, DiscLock is best, but anything is better than nothing.
  • SE10Addick
    SE10Addick Posts: 2,966
    Seems like a daily occurrence in Chislehurst that at least one of them gets stolen.  

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  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,626
    Several Discoverys nicked in Westcombe Park area over the last few weeks...mine is the 'sport' version and am hoping nobody wants that too... (still use a steering lock and keep the keys well away from the front of the house though...)
    Get on the internet and look up Discovery pedal locks - they are a metal box that you put over the pedals in the footwell, which locks up, preventing driving - made from tough steel, these combined with a disklock on the steering wheel, would make stealing the car much more difficult due to the time it would take to cut them out

    I have a pedal box on my Defender - quick and easy to use 

    You can also get devices that go over the gear lever and handbrake
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,194
    Rob7Lee said:
    Surely the stolen vehicle had a tracker on it or did that get binned when nicked 
    It would have had one as standard but most people don't want to pay the annual fee so don't bother. Pretty useless unless you see it getting nicked anyway as LR always put them in the same place so take 30 seconds to remove it.
    my car insurers wont insure without one 
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,610
    Rob7Lee said:
    Surely the stolen vehicle had a tracker on it or did that get binned when nicked 
    It would have had one as standard but most people don't want to pay the annual fee so don't bother. Pretty useless unless you see it getting nicked anyway as LR always put them in the same place so take 30 seconds to remove it.
    my car insurers wont insure without one 
    Just make sure it's the right one!

    I have an aftermarket alarm and tracker, if any sod nicks it I can kill the engine from anywhere in the world.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,194
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
    Fucking hate our Defender (13 plate) I want it nicked , utter shit gears and need Steve Thompson’s  legs to push the clutch down 
    gonna take the father in laws last millennium one which is ten times easier to drive .



    If your clutch is like that, check the clutch fluid level in the slave cylinder in the engine bay - should be at the top of the engine at the back behind steering wheel - prone to leaking, need topping up regularly - simply unscrew plastic lid and top up - check your Manuel, as you have to use right type of fluid

    I love my Defender - yes has all the annoying issues you get with a Land Rover, but I feel like king of the road in it, and off road / wading, it’s superb
    Cheers Lord , apparently a neighbour said something about removing a spring from the clutch , that's what he done to his and it helped .
    I'm never driving it again so the mrs (who loves it oooooerrrrrr) can do what she wants with it but will pass info on , I'm beyond clueless with motors
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,626
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
    Fucking hate our Defender (13 plate) I want it nicked , utter shit gears and need Steve Thompson’s  legs to push the clutch down 
    gonna take the father in laws last millennium one which is ten times easier to drive .



    If your clutch is like that, check the clutch fluid level in the slave cylinder in the engine bay - should be at the top of the engine at the back behind steering wheel - prone to leaking, need topping up regularly - simply unscrew plastic lid and top up - check your Manuel, as you have to use right type of fluid

    I love my Defender - yes has all the annoying issues you get with a Land Rover, but I feel like king of the road in it, and off road / wading, it’s superb
    Cheers Lord , apparently a neighbour said something about removing a spring from the clutch , that's what he done to his and it helped .
    I'm never driving it again so the mrs (who loves it oooooerrrrrr) can do what she wants with it but will pass info on , I'm beyond clueless with motors
    Don’t know about that spring - sounds a bit dodgy - I wouldn’t remove parts that the manufacturer has designed / put in the vehicle 

    The clutch failed on my Defender in March (it had done a lot of miles) - it’s a major job to fix, as the gearbox has to come out

    Don’t know where you are based, but there is an excellent Land Rover garage near Birchwood Golf Course near Swanley called Dakar - I have used them, and they are excellent (did my clutch) 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,863
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
    Fucking hate our Defender (13 plate) I want it nicked , utter shit gears and need Steve Thompson’s  legs to push the clutch down 
    gonna take the father in laws last millennium one which is ten times easier to drive .



    If your clutch is like that, check the clutch fluid level in the slave cylinder in the engine bay - should be at the top of the engine at the back behind steering wheel - prone to leaking, need topping up regularly - simply unscrew plastic lid and top up - check your Manuel, as you have to use right type of fluid

    I love my Defender - yes has all the annoying issues you get with a Land Rover, but I feel like king of the road in it, and off road / wading, it’s superb
    Cheers Lord , apparently a neighbour said something about removing a spring from the clutch , that's what he done to his and it helped .
    I'm never driving it again so the mrs (who loves it oooooerrrrrr) can do what she wants with it but will pass info on , I'm beyond clueless with motors
    Don’t know about that spring - sounds a bit dodgy - I wouldn’t remove parts that the manufacturer has designed / put in the vehicle 

    The clutch failed on my Defender in March (it had done a lot of miles) - it’s a major job to fix, as the gearbox has to come out

    Don’t know where you are based, but there is an excellent Land Rover garage near Birchwood Golf Course near Swanley called Dakar - I have used them, and they are excellent (did my clutch) 

    I'm seriously thinking of getting a new Defender - the old ones are just a bit too agricultural for me (fun to drive off road, though).
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,626
    bobmunro said:
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
    Fucking hate our Defender (13 plate) I want it nicked , utter shit gears and need Steve Thompson’s  legs to push the clutch down 
    gonna take the father in laws last millennium one which is ten times easier to drive .



    If your clutch is like that, check the clutch fluid level in the slave cylinder in the engine bay - should be at the top of the engine at the back behind steering wheel - prone to leaking, need topping up regularly - simply unscrew plastic lid and top up - check your Manuel, as you have to use right type of fluid

    I love my Defender - yes has all the annoying issues you get with a Land Rover, but I feel like king of the road in it, and off road / wading, it’s superb
    Cheers Lord , apparently a neighbour said something about removing a spring from the clutch , that's what he done to his and it helped .
    I'm never driving it again so the mrs (who loves it oooooerrrrrr) can do what she wants with it but will pass info on , I'm beyond clueless with motors
    Don’t know about that spring - sounds a bit dodgy - I wouldn’t remove parts that the manufacturer has designed / put in the vehicle 

    The clutch failed on my Defender in March (it had done a lot of miles) - it’s a major job to fix, as the gearbox has to come out

    Don’t know where you are based, but there is an excellent Land Rover garage near Birchwood Golf Course near Swanley called Dakar - I have used them, and they are excellent (did my clutch) 

    I'm seriously thinking of getting a new Defender - the old ones are just a bit too agricultural for me (fun to drive off road, though).
    Outrageous !!!

    Wash your mouth out - it’s not a Defender in any way shape or form 😉

    I’m not a fan - seems to me to be a Discovery in different clothes - but I suspect I am in the minority 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,863
    bobmunro said:
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
    Fucking hate our Defender (13 plate) I want it nicked , utter shit gears and need Steve Thompson’s  legs to push the clutch down 
    gonna take the father in laws last millennium one which is ten times easier to drive .



    If your clutch is like that, check the clutch fluid level in the slave cylinder in the engine bay - should be at the top of the engine at the back behind steering wheel - prone to leaking, need topping up regularly - simply unscrew plastic lid and top up - check your Manuel, as you have to use right type of fluid

    I love my Defender - yes has all the annoying issues you get with a Land Rover, but I feel like king of the road in it, and off road / wading, it’s superb
    Cheers Lord , apparently a neighbour said something about removing a spring from the clutch , that's what he done to his and it helped .
    I'm never driving it again so the mrs (who loves it oooooerrrrrr) can do what she wants with it but will pass info on , I'm beyond clueless with motors
    Don’t know about that spring - sounds a bit dodgy - I wouldn’t remove parts that the manufacturer has designed / put in the vehicle 

    The clutch failed on my Defender in March (it had done a lot of miles) - it’s a major job to fix, as the gearbox has to come out

    Don’t know where you are based, but there is an excellent Land Rover garage near Birchwood Golf Course near Swanley called Dakar - I have used them, and they are excellent (did my clutch) 

    I'm seriously thinking of getting a new Defender - the old ones are just a bit too agricultural for me (fun to drive off road, though).
    Outrageous !!!

    Wash your mouth out - it’s not a Defender in any way shape or form 😉

    I’m not a fan - seems to me to be a Discovery in different clothes - but I suspect I am in the minority 

    It may be a bit too comfy for the old Defender brigade, although it does seem to be a genuine off-roader rather than soft-roader.

    My old back can't take the punishment now and I need air suspension!!
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,610
    bobmunro said:
    bobmunro said:
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
    Fucking hate our Defender (13 plate) I want it nicked , utter shit gears and need Steve Thompson’s  legs to push the clutch down 
    gonna take the father in laws last millennium one which is ten times easier to drive .



    If your clutch is like that, check the clutch fluid level in the slave cylinder in the engine bay - should be at the top of the engine at the back behind steering wheel - prone to leaking, need topping up regularly - simply unscrew plastic lid and top up - check your Manuel, as you have to use right type of fluid

    I love my Defender - yes has all the annoying issues you get with a Land Rover, but I feel like king of the road in it, and off road / wading, it’s superb
    Cheers Lord , apparently a neighbour said something about removing a spring from the clutch , that's what he done to his and it helped .
    I'm never driving it again so the mrs (who loves it oooooerrrrrr) can do what she wants with it but will pass info on , I'm beyond clueless with motors
    Don’t know about that spring - sounds a bit dodgy - I wouldn’t remove parts that the manufacturer has designed / put in the vehicle 

    The clutch failed on my Defender in March (it had done a lot of miles) - it’s a major job to fix, as the gearbox has to come out

    Don’t know where you are based, but there is an excellent Land Rover garage near Birchwood Golf Course near Swanley called Dakar - I have used them, and they are excellent (did my clutch) 

    I'm seriously thinking of getting a new Defender - the old ones are just a bit too agricultural for me (fun to drive off road, though).
    Outrageous !!!

    Wash your mouth out - it’s not a Defender in any way shape or form 😉

    I’m not a fan - seems to me to be a Discovery in different clothes - but I suspect I am in the minority 

    It may be a bit too comfy for the old Defender brigade, although it does seem to be a genuine off-roader rather than soft-roader.

    My old back can't take the punishment now and I need air suspension!!
    Get a G Wagon bob.
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,626
    Rob7Lee said:
    bobmunro said:
    bobmunro said:
    Croydon said:
    Mad how we're back to steering locks on cars. A key technology upgrade, that nobody asked for, is now a huge backward step for car security.
    And solved a problem that wasn’t there anyway.
    On my Land Rover Defender (a proper one, not the new one) I have a steering wheel bar, metal box that goes over the pedals, and a wheel clamp - added to that I always park my wife’s Mini in front of the Defender on our drive

    At one point the old Defenders were the most stolen vehicles in the country I believe
    Fucking hate our Defender (13 plate) I want it nicked , utter shit gears and need Steve Thompson’s  legs to push the clutch down 
    gonna take the father in laws last millennium one which is ten times easier to drive .



    If your clutch is like that, check the clutch fluid level in the slave cylinder in the engine bay - should be at the top of the engine at the back behind steering wheel - prone to leaking, need topping up regularly - simply unscrew plastic lid and top up - check your Manuel, as you have to use right type of fluid

    I love my Defender - yes has all the annoying issues you get with a Land Rover, but I feel like king of the road in it, and off road / wading, it’s superb
    Cheers Lord , apparently a neighbour said something about removing a spring from the clutch , that's what he done to his and it helped .
    I'm never driving it again so the mrs (who loves it oooooerrrrrr) can do what she wants with it but will pass info on , I'm beyond clueless with motors
    Don’t know about that spring - sounds a bit dodgy - I wouldn’t remove parts that the manufacturer has designed / put in the vehicle 

    The clutch failed on my Defender in March (it had done a lot of miles) - it’s a major job to fix, as the gearbox has to come out

    Don’t know where you are based, but there is an excellent Land Rover garage near Birchwood Golf Course near Swanley called Dakar - I have used them, and they are excellent (did my clutch) 

    I'm seriously thinking of getting a new Defender - the old ones are just a bit too agricultural for me (fun to drive off road, though).
    Outrageous !!!

    Wash your mouth out - it’s not a Defender in any way shape or form 😉

    I’m not a fan - seems to me to be a Discovery in different clothes - but I suspect I am in the minority 

    It may be a bit too comfy for the old Defender brigade, although it does seem to be a genuine off-roader rather than soft-roader.

    My old back can't take the punishment now and I need air suspension!!
    Get a G Wagon bob.
    They are F’ing expensive !!!