Personally, if we are not hard up, I wouldn't take 2.5 million for him. For one he has been part of a successful side and at the moment we do not know if he has maximized his potential. A successful year in the Championship would certainly increase his value. Secondly I doubt much of the transfer fee would find it's way back into player acquisitions. I'm hoping for a quiet day.
I think a lot of the reasons for his low marks in the player ratings is because people seem to have this misconception that he is thUe type of player who breaks late into the box, and so mark him down for not doing that. He isn't that kind of player. He's closer to Michael Carrick than Steven Gerrard. He keeps things ticking over, receiving and giving the ball, creating space for the killer pass.
He sometimes loses concentration, he sometimes goes missing, but if he can work on these then he will be a great rather than good player.
That said, for £2.5m, I'd take it, no question.
Let's be honest, most people marking players on here don't watch the game the same way professional scouts do.
2 million profit after half 3/4 of a season playing for us ( argubly our best spell was when he was injured too) i'd bite their hand off and drive him up myself. ( if i could drive) but alas i'll buy him a train ticket and a ham salad sandwhich for his journey!
It will be interesting to see if villa still sign stephens considering the fact they have had a bid accepted for dempsey. Maybe liverpool will make another bid for him.
I do like Dale. He's learning a new role in that quarterback style position so he does go missing and fails to impose himself sometimes but at 22 he's got a lot of time to grow into it. He'll probably get better facilities to learn at Villa but he'll get far less football. He's nowhere near ready fro the Prem so I'd imagine he'd be loaned out next season if Villa's squad stays as small as it has been recently. If we kept him I'd be very happy but if we got a large fee then I think we'd have done well. Don't see £2.5m being realistic, but then Lambert did pay £3m for Lowton
I think a lot of the reasons for his low marks in the player ratings is because people seem to have this misconception that he is the type of player who breaks late into the box, and so mark him down for not doing that. He isn't that kind of player. He's closer to Michael Carrick than Steven Gerrard. He keeps things ticking over, receiving and giving the ball, creating space for the killer pass.
He sometimes loses concentration, he sometimes goes missing, but if he can work on these then he will be a great rather than good player.
That said, for £2.5m, I'd take it, no question.
Agree - I had the same thought on the Carrick rather than Gerrard comparison. Powell seems to want him to develop in that role. Personally I mark him down as he's still learning and making mistakes. In that position you want someone that rarely gives the ball away but can also defend well - he's still got weaknesses in both areas.
I've said before I think he might really push on at some point. It'll be interesting to see, assuming he signs for Villa, if playing with better players helps him or simply means he doesn't get enough football.
Personally, if we are not hard up, I wouldn't take 2.5 million for him. For one he has been part of a successful side and at the moment we do not know if he has maximized his potential. A successful year in the Championship would certainly increase his value. Secondly I doubt much of the transfer fee would find it's way back into player acquisitions. I'm hoping for a quiet day.
EXACTLY. A successful season in the Championship we could be looking at waay more. If his price is 2.5 mill now it could be 6 mill by next summer - just by virtue of having played at a higher level for a season.
@Bubble go and ask him what the transfer price is. If its below £2 Mill then kidnap him and hold him for ransom until Villa pay us all the cash we want upfront. Problem solved.
Just looked on Sky and it allegedly confirms that Stephens has told the club he wants to leave for Villa and the offer is £2M which we should snap their hands off for..sorry I think he's a bit overrated and that is a good deal for a player who is yet to really prove his worth.
Personally, if we are not hard up, I wouldn't take 2.5 million for him. For one he has been part of a successful side and at the moment we do not know if he has maximized his potential. A successful year in the Championship would certainly increase his value. Secondly I doubt much of the transfer fee would find it's way back into player acquisitions. I'm hoping for a quiet day.
EXACTLY. A successful season in the Championship we could be looking at waay more. If his price is 2.5 mill now it could be 6 mill by next summer - just by virtue of having played at a higher level for a season.
or he stays and people realise he never was a 2.5mil Premier standard player
Personally, if we are not hard up, I wouldn't take 2.5 million for him. For one he has been part of a successful side and at the moment we do not know if he has maximized his potential. A successful year in the Championship would certainly increase his value. Secondly I doubt much of the transfer fee would find it's way back into player acquisitions. I'm hoping for a quiet day.
EXACTLY. A successful season in the Championship we could be looking at waay more. If his price is 2.5 mill now it could be 6 mill by next summer - just by virtue of having played at a higher level for a season.
or he stays and people realise he never was a 2.5mil Premier standard player
He's going to be worth a lot more than 2.5mil in the future. Once he irons out a few concentration issues in his game he will be a very very classy player for years to come.
Personally, if we are not hard up, I wouldn't take 2.5 million for him. For one he has been part of a successful side and at the moment we do not know if he has maximized his potential. A successful year in the Championship would certainly increase his value. Secondly I doubt much of the transfer fee would find it's way back into player acquisitions. I'm hoping for a quiet day.
EXACTLY. A successful season in the Championship we could be looking at waay more. If his price is 2.5 mill now it could be 6 mill by next summer - just by virtue of having played at a higher level for a season.
or he stays and people realise he never was a 2.5mil Premier standard player
He's going to be worth a lot more than 2.5mil in the future. Once he irons out a few concentration issues in his game he will be a very very classy player for years to come.
Personally, if we are not hard up, I wouldn't take 2.5 million for him. For one he has been part of a successful side and at the moment we do not know if he has maximized his potential. A successful year in the Championship would certainly increase his value. Secondly I doubt much of the transfer fee would find it's way back into player acquisitions. I'm hoping for a quiet day.
EXACTLY. A successful season in the Championship we could be looking at waay more. If his price is 2.5 mill now it could be 6 mill by next summer - just by virtue of having played at a higher level for a season.
or he stays and people realise he never was a 2.5mil Premier standard player
He's going to be worth a lot more than 2.5mil in the future. Once he irons out a few concentration issues in his game he will be a very very classy player for years to come.
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His agent or our agent earning his money their.Let's throw some other names into the press to put pressure on Villa and bump the price.
Real Madrid!!
Juve !!
PSG !!
AFC Hornchurch !!!
Barefoot.
In a mankini
Looks like he'll be definitely going.
Can't wait to see this one on SSN
I've said before I think he might really push on at some point. It'll be interesting to see, assuming he signs for Villa, if playing with better players helps him or simply means he doesn't get enough football.
Need (and surely can now afford) Hammond plus one more.
or he stays and people realise he never was a 2.5mil Premier standard player
He's going to be worth a lot more than 2.5mil in the future. Once he irons out a few concentration issues in his game he will be a very very classy player for years to come.
I didn't realise he was a "schemer".
That's got to add at least £1 million to the price