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  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727
    ValleyGary said:
    France have looked average for 2.5 games now.
    They don't scare me on tonight's showing, that's for sure. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited June 2021
    SELR_addicks said:
    That's what VAR is there for. 

    Seems like referee ego wins out again. 
    Not overruled, there was contact so not clear & obvious error. This is what the clear & obvious crowd wanted. If it was up to the VAR alone, that would've been overturned.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,668
    Var is shite. 
    End of 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Andyessgee90 said:
    That further backs up my comment yesterday that the officiating is absolutely shocking in this competition.
    I've not seen as many games as I would have liked to but I think the refs and VAR have been good so far....
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    Referees are shite. End of. 

    This ref has the ego of Mike Dean. All about him. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Fuck it - I think we should play France, Germany, Hungary and Portugal  next Tuesday. 
  • EricBanterna
    EricBanterna Posts: 1,740
    Ref is going to ruin this game. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727
    Wasn't it this ref who have a shocking penalty earlier in the tourno?
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    ValleyGary said:
    France have looked average for 2.5 games now.
    We'd definitely need to play better than we have, but I think if we put their defence under pressure we could score a couple. Kimpembe and Varane look nothing more than decent, don't think either of their full backs gets in our squad. Obviously their attacking talent is incredibly dangerous but I'd go into that game feeling we had a chance. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    The issue with VAR is when you have a referee this much of a diva. Even if you told him in his ear he was wrong he would ignore you and stick with his decision. 
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Croydon said:
    Wasn't it this ref who have a shocking penalty earlier in the tourno?
    He's been in the middle for Belgium/Russia, England/Scotland and tonight.
  • EricBanterna
    EricBanterna Posts: 1,740
    SELR_addicks said:
    The issue with VAR is when you have a referee this much of a diva. Even if you told him in his ear he was wrong he would ignore you and stick with his decision. 
    What was more concerning was his lack of care towards the player on the deck after what looked like a wrestling move from the top rope from Lloris 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    SELR_addicks said:
    The issue with VAR is when you have a referee this much of a diva. Even if you told him in his ear he was wrong he would ignore you and stick with his decision. 
    Surprise surprise you defend VAR even when it looks like it got it wrong. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    cafcfan1990 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The issue with VAR is when you have a referee this much of a diva. Even if you told him in his ear he was wrong he would ignore you and stick with his decision. 
    Surprise surprise you defend VAR even when it looks like it got it wrong. 
    Sorry who gave the decision? 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited June 2021
    VAR did what it was meant to do within the rules.

    The penalty decision was not a clear and obvious error so was not overturned. If you want decisions like that overturned, you have to scrap the clear and obvious element of the rules.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727
    cafcfan1990 said:
    ValleyGary said:
    France have looked average for 2.5 games now.
    We'd definitely need to play better than we have, but I think if we put their defence under pressure we could score a couple. Kimpembe and Varane look nothing more than decent, don't think either of their full backs gets in our squad. Obviously their attacking talent is incredibly dangerous but I'd go into that game feeling we had a chance. 
    I think we'd do them. Only side I don't want is Germany, just think we're cursed against them.
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,635
    SELR_addicks said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The issue with VAR is when you have a referee this much of a diva. Even if you told him in his ear he was wrong he would ignore you and stick with his decision. 
    Surprise surprise you defend VAR even when it looks like it got it wrong. 
    Sorry who gave the decision? 
    Var
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    SELR_addicks said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The issue with VAR is when you have a referee this much of a diva. Even if you told him in his ear he was wrong he would ignore you and stick with his decision. 
    Surprise surprise you defend VAR even when it looks like it got it wrong. 
    Sorry who gave the decision? 
    They are two seperate things though. You're blaming the ref for both. The penalty was soft, probably the wrong decision. He is not in control of VAR though is he?
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    A lot of people have come out with the same old repetitive statement of "What about when England face one of the top sides?"

    Well, we've seen so far this tournament that Germany, France and Portugal are FAR from invincible. Hungary have given a game to all three of them.

    There's no good reason to suggest that we absolutely cannot beat these sides in one off knockout games. They're beatable.  
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Callumcafc said:
    VAR did what it was meant to do within the rules.

    The penalty decision was not a clear and obvious error so was not overturned. If you want decisions like that overturned, you have to scrap the clear and obvious element of the rules.
    Possibly, but I think the most sensible thing to do was to get the ref to go and look on the monitor. I agree it shouldn't have been overturned by VAR. 
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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    cafcfan1990 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The issue with VAR is when you have a referee this much of a diva. Even if you told him in his ear he was wrong he would ignore you and stick with his decision. 
    Surprise surprise you defend VAR even when it looks like it got it wrong. 
    Sorry who gave the decision? 
    They are two seperate things though. You're blaming the ref for both. The penalty was soft, probably the wrong decision. He is not in control of VAR though is he?
    VAR have to give the benefit of the doubt when it's not an obvious error. 

    They didn't stop play and tell ref to give the penalty. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    SELR_addicks said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The issue with VAR is when you have a referee this much of a diva. Even if you told him in his ear he was wrong he would ignore you and stick with his decision. 
    Surprise surprise you defend VAR even when it looks like it got it wrong. 
    Sorry who gave the decision? 
    They are two seperate things though. You're blaming the ref for both. The penalty was soft, probably the wrong decision. He is not in control of VAR though is he?
    VAR have to give the benefit of the doubt when it's not an obvious error. 

    They didn't stop play and tell ref to give the penalty. 
    You defended VAR by saying the ref would have ignored them anyway. Where's your proof for that? How often has a referee ignored what VAR has said to them?
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    edited June 2021
    Just goes to show that we've no idea who might be the easier game really, Germany ran Portugal ragged at times, but tonight Portugal look much better than France, who beat Germamy pretty comfortably....
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Round of 16 as it stands at HT...

    26 June:
    In Amsterdam, Wales will play Denmark
    In London, Italy will play Austria

    27 June:
    In Seville, Belgium will play Hungary.
    In Budapest, Netherlands will play Czech Republic.

    28 June:
    In Copenhagen, Croatia will play Spain.
    In Bucharest, the France will play Switzerland.

    29 June: 
    In London, England will play Portugal.
    In Glasgow, Sweden will play Ukraine.
  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,810
    Still spinning my head that Loic Nego is out there playing very well for Hungary!
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,364
    Ormiston_Addick said:
    Still spinning my head that Loic Nego is out there playing very well for Hungary!
    They weren’t necessarily all bad footballers.  But they were far from right for us. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    cafcfan1990 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The issue with VAR is when you have a referee this much of a diva. Even if you told him in his ear he was wrong he would ignore you and stick with his decision. 
    Surprise surprise you defend VAR even when it looks like it got it wrong. 
    Sorry who gave the decision? 
    They are two seperate things though. You're blaming the ref for both. The penalty was soft, probably the wrong decision. He is not in control of VAR though is he?
    VAR have to give the benefit of the doubt when it's not an obvious error. 

    They didn't stop play and tell ref to give the penalty. 
    You defended VAR by saying the ref would have ignored them anyway. Where's your proof for that? How often has a referee ignored what VAR has said to them?
    A referee gives the worst decision in the tournament by a country mile, you decide to bash VAR anyway. 

    Nice to see refs are given a pass to make terrible decisions because it's the big bad VAR's fault they can't use their eyes. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,668
    SELR_addicks said:
    The issue with VAR is when you have a referee this much of a diva. Even if you told him in his ear he was wrong he would ignore you and stick with his decision. 
    You would defend Var regardless of how shite a decision they make 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Ormiston_Addick said:
    Still spinning my head that Loic Nego is out there playing very well for Hungary!
    Give Tommy D his due (vomit), some of these players have good numbers for a reason, they're not all duds.

    It's just then about fitting the player to the right club. Nego has clearly found a better fit in Hungary than he did in London.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    edited June 2021
    SELR_addicks said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The issue with VAR is when you have a referee this much of a diva. Even if you told him in his ear he was wrong he would ignore you and stick with his decision. 
    Surprise surprise you defend VAR even when it looks like it got it wrong. 
    Sorry who gave the decision? 
    They are two seperate things though. You're blaming the ref for both. The penalty was soft, probably the wrong decision. He is not in control of VAR though is he?
    VAR have to give the benefit of the doubt when it's not an obvious error. 

    They didn't stop play and tell ref to give the penalty. 
    You defended VAR by saying the ref would have ignored them anyway. Where's your proof for that? How often has a referee ignored what VAR has said to them?
    A referee gives the worst decision in the tournament by a country mile, you decide to bash VAR anyway. 

    Nice to see refs are given a pass to make terrible decisions because it's the big bad VAR's fault they can't use their eyes. 
    I haven't said anything of the sort. VAR has a big advantage over the referees, they should use that. Live I was about 75% sure it wasn't a pen so yes, it was a poor decision. After the replay, I was 100% sure it wasn't. Therefore VAR had the better position but didn't use it. 

    Regardless, you defended VAR by saying the referee would have ignored them anyway, I noticed you ignored my previous questions. Mainly because you're chatting shite. 

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