Belgium are very comfortable but I haven’t been overly impressed. Obviously KDB coming back will take them to another level.
Will be interesting to see how we come out tomorrow in terms of tempo etc.
Id argue that England v Croatia is potentially going to be the tightest match-up of the competition so far... Although Croatia arent the same team from three years ago.
We dont usually start competitions quickly and reckon we'll see a similar game to the 1-1 draw against Russia from 2016, maybe the same result with England struggling to break down the opposition, only to concede a late equaliser
Denmark head coach Kasper Hjulmand: "We had two options to play the game [today] or tomorrow at 12pm and everyone agreed to play today. You can't play a game with such feelings. We tried to win. It was incredible they managed to go out and try to play the second half."
So 3 games in, Italy decent second half against a timid Turkey that didn't turn up, Denmark Finland can't really be assessed for obvious reasons and a decent but unspectacular Belgium v an absent Russia.
Portugal, Germany, Spain and France to play yet but will be interesting to see if we can mark our stall out tomorrow in a tough fixture.
Lineker/BBC apologizing on Twitter for the coverage, pointing to out that it's host footage and out of their control but acknowledging it should not have been aired.
Only thing I'll say about that is I cant understand why the BBC couldnt just go back to the studio
Its done now though so hope they both just learn from it
Did viewers complaining turn off ? I doubt it.
Too easy to criticise when it’s happening real time and no one knows for sure how serious, precisely what is happening. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
I thought the commentary was respectful etc. and the pictures relatively at distance and not seeking to intrude.
There is a director in a gallery (a room with lots of TV and people in it). All the available camera angles are on show, and the director/ team are also telling the camera people what to point their cameras at. The director quite deliberately showed as emotional a scene as possible. He/ she cut between close-ups of people crying, shots of Eriksen as he was receiving the defib, and a distraught woman being comforted.
It was immediately obvious something serious had happened with the very first close up of a prone Eriksen. As such, hindsight wasn’t required to perceive what was occurring. And as it happens, it’s pretty standard to cut to a wide shot in far less serious situations on a football pitch. I’m genuinely surprised that the director made those choices, and also that the BBC kept running the feed (presumably they figured it better then the shell-shocked studio). You say they were not intrusive, I believe they were as intrusive as possible short of sending the steadicam in for a close-up.
The BBC had the choice to continue showing it or cut away. I suspect they could also have used a wide shot given that they have one feeding their studio background. They stuck with it for the most part, cutting to studio just before he was carried away.
I, like others on here, saw stuff I didn’t think should have been shot in that manner and, sincerely believing he had died, turned over. Seeing Eriksen’s legs shaking as CPR was administered was truly unsettling and I didn’t want to see any more.
Since finding out he’s okay I’ve gone back to have a look at how the coverage panned out. As such I remain of the opinion that the close-up shots, particularly those over the shoulders or between the legs of the teammates attempting to shield Eriksen from prying eyes, were excessive.
Many people would have continued watching because they wanted to be reassured the man was okay, as they looked for comfort or good news. This doesn’t make anybody a bad person (let alone ‘vile’). Turning over to The Only Way is Essex would’ve felt wrong, and turning the TV off to sit in silence wouldn’t have been very comforting either.
All that said, I’m not personally emotional about this. I’m not upset by what they did, just observing how it went down, and I think the point you’ve made - as well as a couple of other posters on this thread - is incorrect. It was intrusive, it was deliberate, taking about the coverage on social isn’t vile - and hindsight is an irrelevant thing.
The commentary was respectful in my opinion.
I personally didn’t perceive at the time it to be unduly intrusive and thought they did use wide shots in the main. But some may see it differently clearly.
My point really was that i think they tried to balance it appropriately but with hindsight might have done it differently.
No director is going to want to get this wrong after all.
Denmark head coach Kasper Hjulmand: "We had two options to play the game [today] or tomorrow at 12pm and everyone agreed to play today. You can't play a game with such feelings. We tried to win. It was incredible they managed to go out and try to play the second half."
Russia have been massively underwhelming, a bit like Turkey were last night. Still hopeful Denmark can nick three points off them and qualify that way.
Russia have been massively underwhelming, a bit like Turkey were last night. Still hopeful Denmark can nick three points off them and qualify that way.
To be fair I don't think anyone expected much else from Russia.
Russia have been massively underwhelming, a bit like Turkey were last night. Still hopeful Denmark can nick three points off them and qualify that way.
To be fair I don't think anyone expected much else from Russia.
I thought home advantage may have helped them be competitive but if anything, it looked like a massive hangover from hosting the WC. Perhaps a lot less doping..!
Russia have been massively underwhelming, a bit like Turkey were last night. Still hopeful Denmark can nick three points off them and qualify that way.
Actually think Turkey were even worse, they reminded me of Charlton at their worst this season when we didn't seem to be able to run, tackle, pass or position themselves. Wonder if something is wrong in the dressing room.
So 3 games in, Italy decent second half against a timid Turkey that didn't turn up, Denmark Finland can't really be assessed for obvious reasons and a decent but unspectacular Belgium v an absent Russia.
Portugal, Germany, Spain and France to play yet but will be interesting to see if we can mark our stall out tomorrow in a tough fixture.
A bit harsh on the Welsh to just forget about them... 😉
So 3 games in, Italy decent second half against a timid Turkey that didn't turn up, Denmark Finland can't really be assessed for obvious reasons and a decent but unspectacular Belgium v an absent Russia.
Portugal, Germany, Spain and France to play yet but will be interesting to see if we can mark our stall out tomorrow in a tough fixture.
For a country the size and population of Russia they should be better at football. Least the USA have a few other so called sports that they are into. What has Russia have apart from ice hockey and professional vodka drinking?
Woke up to the news about Christian Eriksen collapsing on pitch. So so horrible. I read all the posts in this thread, thinking I would have been in tears if I had been watching the match live. I watched many Spurs games when he was there and really liked him. Great player. Thank God he's stable now. Credits to his teammates, the ref and the medical staff.
I've so far only watched 45 minutes of this tournament due to time difference and it was the boring first half of Wales v Switzerland. Tonight the England game against Croatia must be much more exciting to watch. I've been looking forward to it for several days and hopefully England will get all three points.
For today, grateful if we use the dedicated England v Croatia thread for all chat related to that game, and keep this thread for the other games and any other Euro chat
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Will be interesting to see how we come out tomorrow in terms of tempo etc.
We dont usually start competitions quickly and reckon we'll see a similar game to the 1-1 draw against Russia from 2016, maybe the same result with England struggling to break down the opposition, only to concede a late equaliser
Portugal, Germany, Spain and France to play yet but will be interesting to see if we can mark our stall out tomorrow in a tough fixture.
Are you Boris in disguise?
Their flight tickets are open return!
I've so far only watched 45 minutes of this tournament due to time difference and it was the boring first half of Wales v Switzerland. Tonight the England game against Croatia must be much more exciting to watch. I've been looking forward to it for several days and hopefully England will get all three points.
For today, grateful if we use the dedicated England v Croatia thread for all chat related to that game, and keep this thread for the other games and any other Euro chat
come on England!