Have seen darts players like Michael Smith agree as well that 147 is hardest.
Just dont see how you can put the other 2 ahead off it, a 147 is 36 shots, if you miss 1 of those it's over lol
Easily 147, Golf is pretty much a fluke/ luck dependent. Darts is too mechanical eg. you are throwing at the same place and only takes 9 perfect shots. 147 is 36 balls potted perfect position needed mostly, you cant ever have the same shots. agreed not even a debate
No way
9 darts is harder in my opinion.
you need 9 perfect darts - just look at the target size.
with the 147, you can be out of ideal position multiple times, and continue with an alternative red, or manoeuvre the cue ball and stay on the black. You can often have a 12 inch margin of error on some of the shots.
yeah there are more shots involved but for me the 9 darter is harder.
I disagree strongly, its your opinion and i see your thought process. The thing is its not perfect you have a margin for error. I barely have played darts and ive hit a 140, checked out 119 too and im rubbish. The fact the board doesnt move means you are always aiming for the same areas so unlike snooker you can get used to it. There are 100x more people who have had 9 darters over 147's also there is a bit of luck with 147 where you need to open the pack or get a good split. I respect your opinion though of course, i also see your point you can mess position up or not quite be in position and still make one but its harder and less likely.
From a personal respective, of the three sports I was by far the better at snooker. I have made centuries, won league singles championships and been county runner up. But nowhere near a 147. Golf- I had a decent swing but was no good. But I have had a hole in one, and on a par 4. It's a fluke. 300 at ten pin would be better to include. Darts - I can see the argument. I used to have a board in my room and played a lot. I had a few 180s and did the odd 100 plus checkout. But when I played a couple of team matches I could barely hit the 20. I am sure that pro darts players do the nine darter several times a day in practice. There have been two in one match before. But definitely for me, 147 is the hardest. Although strangely it isn't necessarily the hardest thing in snooker. Some 70s with all the reds on cushions are harder than some 147s. If you changed the rules and made the yellow worth 7 then you would never see a 147.
poor form @paulie8290, just caught up and to not do updates on the final because Selby lost. Pathetic
I had a busy weekend, saw the end of the Ronnie match whilst playing pool. Such drama and was well happy he beat Selby. I assume the opposite to how Paulie felt, i didn't come on here and gloat like he most certainly would have either.... Selby to moan about Ronnies tactics/gamesmanship how ironic, what a poor loser. Its probably down to their rivalry more than most, i dont really agree with Ronnie hit and hopes out of a snooker but i think he got to a point he was like i cant do too much and needed a bit of luck, got away with it but Selby had the run the whole of the match up until then so nevermind.
The final was a bit of an anticlimax, first session neither playing well. Wilson upped his game then on the final day Ronnie played well but also Wilson struggled.
Also Ronnie won his 6th World tilte, absolutely buzzing! wasn't sure it was going to happen as Paulie predicted it would not but glad he has done it. not sure if he will have another in him but you cant argue he had a tough draw: Un-nooh Ding Williams Selby Wilson
Came through a bottom half which was very tough! No gloating from me just pleased he has won another.
As an O'Sullivan fan, how did you feel when he chucked the 30th frame v Selby?
Have seen darts players like Michael Smith agree as well that 147 is hardest.
Just dont see how you can put the other 2 ahead off it, a 147 is 36 shots, if you miss 1 of those it's over lol
Easily 147, Golf is pretty much a fluke/ luck dependent. Darts is too mechanical eg. you are throwing at the same place and only takes 9 perfect shots. 147 is 36 balls potted perfect position needed mostly, you cant ever have the same shots. agreed not even a debate
No way
9 darts is harder in my opinion.
you need 9 perfect darts - just look at the target size.
with the 147, you can be out of ideal position multiple times, and continue with an alternative red, or manoeuvre the cue ball and stay on the black. You can often have a 12 inch margin of error on some of the shots.
yeah there are more shots involved but for me the 9 darter is harder.
I disagree strongly, its your opinion and i see your thought process. The thing is its not perfect you have a margin for error. I barely have played darts and ive hit a 140, checked out 119 too and im rubbish. The fact the board doesnt move means you are always aiming for the same areas so unlike snooker you can get used to it. There are 100x more people who have had 9 darters over 147's also there is a bit of luck with 147 where you need to open the pack or get a good split. I respect your opinion though of course, i also see your point you can mess position up or not quite be in position and still make one but its harder and less likely.
From a personal respective, of the three sports I was by far the better at snooker. I have made centuries, won league singles championships and been county runner up. But nowhere near a 147. Golf- I had a decent swing but was no good. But I have had a hole in one, and on a par 4. It's a fluke. 300 at ten pin would be better to include. Darts - I can see the argument. I used to have a board in my room and played a lot. I had a few 180s and did the odd 100 plus checkout. But when I played a couple of team matches I could barely hit the 20. I am sure that pro darts players do the nine darter several times a day in practice. There have been two in one match before. But definitely for me, 147 is the hardest. Although strangely it isn't necessarily the hardest thing in snooker. Some 70s with all the reds on cushions are harder than some 147s. If you changed the rules and made the yellow worth 7 then you would never see a 147.
Have seen darts players like Michael Smith agree as well that 147 is hardest.
Just dont see how you can put the other 2 ahead off it, a 147 is 36 shots, if you miss 1 of those it's over lol
Easily 147, Golf is pretty much a fluke/ luck dependent. Darts is too mechanical eg. you are throwing at the same place and only takes 9 perfect shots. 147 is 36 balls potted perfect position needed mostly, you cant ever have the same shots. agreed not even a debate
No way
9 darts is harder in my opinion.
you need 9 perfect darts - just look at the target size.
with the 147, you can be out of ideal position multiple times, and continue with an alternative red, or manoeuvre the cue ball and stay on the black. You can often have a 12 inch margin of error on some of the shots.
yeah there are more shots involved but for me the 9 darter is harder.
I disagree strongly, its your opinion and i see your thought process. The thing is its not perfect you have a margin for error. I barely have played darts and ive hit a 140, checked out 119 too and im rubbish. The fact the board doesnt move means you are always aiming for the same areas so unlike snooker you can get used to it. There are 100x more people who have had 9 darters over 147's also there is a bit of luck with 147 where you need to open the pack or get a good split. I respect your opinion though of course, i also see your point you can mess position up or not quite be in position and still make one but its harder and less likely.
From a personal respective, of the three sports I was by far the better at snooker. I have made centuries, won league singles championships and been county runner up. But nowhere near a 147. Golf- I had a decent swing but was no good. But I have had a hole in one, and on a par 4. It's a fluke. 300 at ten pin would be better to include. Darts - I can see the argument. I used to have a board in my room and played a lot. I had a few 180s and did the odd 100 plus checkout. But when I played a couple of team matches I could barely hit the 20. I am sure that pro darts players do the nine darter several times a day in practice. There have been two in one match before. But definitely for me, 147 is the hardest. Although strangely it isn't necessarily the hardest thing in snooker. Some 70s with all the reds on cushions are harder than some 147s. If you changed the rules and made the yellow worth 7 then you would never see a 147.
Do you mean reverse the values of the colours? i.e. yellow = 7, green = 6, brown = 5, blue = 4, pink = 3, black = 2? That would actually be quite interesting to see - the amount of work required for positioning to make a big break would be enormous. Pointless for average joes like me, but the world class players would have to completely change their approach to the game strategically.
just listened to Jason Francis of the world seniors tour and he has said they are doing a world seniors q school in jersey which will be open to anyone.
So anyone on here over 40, when details get released I will post on here, if you think you have what it takes and fancy being at the crucible next year, then why not give it a try lol
Have seen darts players like Michael Smith agree as well that 147 is hardest.
Just dont see how you can put the other 2 ahead off it, a 147 is 36 shots, if you miss 1 of those it's over lol
Easily 147, Golf is pretty much a fluke/ luck dependent. Darts is too mechanical eg. you are throwing at the same place and only takes 9 perfect shots. 147 is 36 balls potted perfect position needed mostly, you cant ever have the same shots. agreed not even a debate
No way
9 darts is harder in my opinion.
you need 9 perfect darts - just look at the target size.
with the 147, you can be out of ideal position multiple times, and continue with an alternative red, or manoeuvre the cue ball and stay on the black. You can often have a 12 inch margin of error on some of the shots.
yeah there are more shots involved but for me the 9 darter is harder.
I disagree strongly, its your opinion and i see your thought process. The thing is its not perfect you have a margin for error. I barely have played darts and ive hit a 140, checked out 119 too and im rubbish. The fact the board doesnt move means you are always aiming for the same areas so unlike snooker you can get used to it. There are 100x more people who have had 9 darters over 147's also there is a bit of luck with 147 where you need to open the pack or get a good split. I respect your opinion though of course, i also see your point you can mess position up or not quite be in position and still make one but its harder and less likely.
From a personal respective, of the three sports I was by far the better at snooker. I have made centuries, won league singles championships and been county runner up. But nowhere near a 147. Golf- I had a decent swing but was no good. But I have had a hole in one, and on a par 4. It's a fluke. 300 at ten pin would be better to include. Darts - I can see the argument. I used to have a board in my room and played a lot. I had a few 180s and did the odd 100 plus checkout. But when I played a couple of team matches I could barely hit the 20. I am sure that pro darts players do the nine darter several times a day in practice. There have been two in one match before. But definitely for me, 147 is the hardest. Although strangely it isn't necessarily the hardest thing in snooker. Some 70s with all the reds on cushions are harder than some 147s. If you changed the rules and made the yellow worth 7 then you would never see a 147.
Do you mean reverse the values of the colours? i.e. yellow = 7, green = 6, brown = 5, blue = 4, pink = 3, black = 2? That would actually be quite interesting to see - the amount of work required for positioning to make a big break would be enormous. Pointless for average joes like me, but the world class players would have to completely change their approach to the game strategically.
I knew an ex pro who used to play against club players and instead of giving them a start, he was only allowed to pot baulk colours.
Have seen darts players like Michael Smith agree as well that 147 is hardest.
Just dont see how you can put the other 2 ahead off it, a 147 is 36 shots, if you miss 1 of those it's over lol
Easily 147, Golf is pretty much a fluke/ luck dependent. Darts is too mechanical eg. you are throwing at the same place and only takes 9 perfect shots. 147 is 36 balls potted perfect position needed mostly, you cant ever have the same shots. agreed not even a debate
No way
9 darts is harder in my opinion.
you need 9 perfect darts - just look at the target size.
with the 147, you can be out of ideal position multiple times, and continue with an alternative red, or manoeuvre the cue ball and stay on the black. You can often have a 12 inch margin of error on some of the shots.
yeah there are more shots involved but for me the 9 darter is harder.
I disagree strongly, its your opinion and i see your thought process. The thing is its not perfect you have a margin for error. I barely have played darts and ive hit a 140, checked out 119 too and im rubbish. The fact the board doesnt move means you are always aiming for the same areas so unlike snooker you can get used to it. There are 100x more people who have had 9 darters over 147's also there is a bit of luck with 147 where you need to open the pack or get a good split. I respect your opinion though of course, i also see your point you can mess position up or not quite be in position and still make one but its harder and less likely.
From a personal respective, of the three sports I was by far the better at snooker. I have made centuries, won league singles championships and been county runner up. But nowhere near a 147. Golf- I had a decent swing but was no good. But I have had a hole in one, and on a par 4. It's a fluke. 300 at ten pin would be better to include. Darts - I can see the argument. I used to have a board in my room and played a lot. I had a few 180s and did the odd 100 plus checkout. But when I played a couple of team matches I could barely hit the 20. I am sure that pro darts players do the nine darter several times a day in practice. There have been two in one match before. But definitely for me, 147 is the hardest. Although strangely it isn't necessarily the hardest thing in snooker. Some 70s with all the reds on cushions are harder than some 147s. If you changed the rules and made the yellow worth 7 then you would never see a 147.
What, because it'd then be a 152?
Er no. I meant reverse the points, so yellow is 7 and black is 2 etc.
Have seen darts players like Michael Smith agree as well that 147 is hardest.
Just dont see how you can put the other 2 ahead off it, a 147 is 36 shots, if you miss 1 of those it's over lol
Easily 147, Golf is pretty much a fluke/ luck dependent. Darts is too mechanical eg. you are throwing at the same place and only takes 9 perfect shots. 147 is 36 balls potted perfect position needed mostly, you cant ever have the same shots. agreed not even a debate
No way
9 darts is harder in my opinion.
you need 9 perfect darts - just look at the target size.
with the 147, you can be out of ideal position multiple times, and continue with an alternative red, or manoeuvre the cue ball and stay on the black. You can often have a 12 inch margin of error on some of the shots.
yeah there are more shots involved but for me the 9 darter is harder.
I disagree strongly, its your opinion and i see your thought process. The thing is its not perfect you have a margin for error. I barely have played darts and ive hit a 140, checked out 119 too and im rubbish. The fact the board doesnt move means you are always aiming for the same areas so unlike snooker you can get used to it. There are 100x more people who have had 9 darters over 147's also there is a bit of luck with 147 where you need to open the pack or get a good split. I respect your opinion though of course, i also see your point you can mess position up or not quite be in position and still make one but its harder and less likely.
From a personal respective, of the three sports I was by far the better at snooker. I have made centuries, won league singles championships and been county runner up. But nowhere near a 147. Golf- I had a decent swing but was no good. But I have had a hole in one, and on a par 4. It's a fluke. 300 at ten pin would be better to include. Darts - I can see the argument. I used to have a board in my room and played a lot. I had a few 180s and did the odd 100 plus checkout. But when I played a couple of team matches I could barely hit the 20. I am sure that pro darts players do the nine darter several times a day in practice. There have been two in one match before. But definitely for me, 147 is the hardest. Although strangely it isn't necessarily the hardest thing in snooker. Some 70s with all the reds on cushions are harder than some 147s. If you changed the rules and made the yellow worth 7 then you would never see a 147.
Do you mean reverse the values of the colours? i.e. yellow = 7, green = 6, brown = 5, blue = 4, pink = 3, black = 2? That would actually be quite interesting to see - the amount of work required for positioning to make a big break would be enormous. Pointless for average joes like me, but the world class players would have to completely change their approach to the game strategically.
I knew an ex pro who used to play against club players and instead of giving them a start, he was only allowed to pot baulk colours.
So now the invitational cards for Doherty, Wattana and Hendry have been confirmed.
These are the 130 playerd with pro tour cards for this coming season
1. Judd Trump
2. Ronnie O'Sullivan
3. Neil Robertson
4. Mark Selby
5. Mark Allen
6. Kyren Wilson
7. John Higgins
8. Shaun Murphy
9. Stephen Maguire
10. Mark Williams
11. Dave Gilbert
12. Ding Junhui
13. Stuart Bingham
14. Jack Lisowski
15. Yan Bingtao
16. Joe Perry
17. Barry Hawkins
18. Gary Wilson
19. Ali Carter
20. Thepchaiya Un-Nooh
21. Graeme Dott
22. Anthony McGill
23. Scott Donaldson
24. Tom Ford
25. Zhou Yuelong
26. Matthew Selt
27. Kurt Maflin
28. Jimmy Robertson
29. Zhao Xintong
30. Michael Holt
31. Xiao Guodong
32. Noppon Saengkham
33. Matthew Stevens
34. Martin O'Donnell
35. Liang Wenbo
36. Mark King
37. Ryan Day
38. Luca Brecel
39. Mark Davis
40. Anthony Hamilton
41. Hossein Vafaei
42. Ben Woollaston
43. Lyu Haotian
44. Li Hang
45. Yuan Sijun
46. Ricky Walden
47. Stuart Carrington
48. Alan McManus
49. Robert Milkins
50. Marco Fu
51. Lu Ning
52. Akani Songsermsawad
53. Martin Gould
54. Tian Pengfei
55. Mei Xiwen
56. Daniel Wells
57. Chris Wakelin
58. Sam Craigie
59. Andrew Higginson
60. Elliot Slessor
61. Luo Honghao
62. Joe O'Connor
63. Liam Highfield
64. Mark Joyce
65. Robbie Williams
66. Fergal O'Brien
67. Jak Jones
68. Jordan Brown
69. Jamie Clarke
70. Ashley Carty
71. Ian Burns
72. Alexander Ursenbacher
73. Louis Heathcote
74. Nigel Bond
75. David Grace
76. Dominic Dale
77. Eden Sharav
78. Jackson Page
79. Mitchell Mann
80. Gerard Greene
81. Barry Pinches
82. Kacper Filipiak
83. Si Jiahui
84. Chang Bingyu
85. Chen Zifan
86. Soheil Vahedi
87. Rod Lawler
88. James Cahill
89. Igor Figueiredo
90. Xu Si
91. Jimmy White
92. Billy Castle
93. Jamie O'Neil
94. Duane Jones
95. Peter Lines
96. David Lilley
97. Brandon Sargeant
98. Fraser Patrick
99. Bai Langning
100. Andy Hicks
101. Amine Amiri
102. Lei Peifan
103. Alex Borg
104. Riley Parsons
105. Steve Mifsud
106. Andrew Pagett
107. Aaron Hill
108. Ashley Hugill
109. Iulian Boiko(14 years old)
110. Gao Yang(16 years old)
111. Sean Maddocks
112. Pang Junxu
113. Zhao Jianbo(16 years old)
114. Lukas Kleckers
115. Allan Taylor
116. Lee Walker
117. Peter Devlin
118. Simon Lichtenberg
119. Fan Zhengyi
120. Jamie Jones
121. Zak Surety
122. Oliver Lines
123. Ben Hancorn
124. Rory McLeod
125. Jamie Wilson(16 years old)
126. Farakh Ajaib
127. Steven Hallworth
128. Ken Doherty
129. James Wattana
130. Stephen Hendry
Madness, i mean in a good way. I thought he was playing better this year in the seniors, as i said to paulie great for the game hopefully he can get a good run in one of the events (more likely a PTC event short races). I am not sure he will be able to win a tourney outright, but it would be great to see if he did.
I am Ronnie over Hendry, but still will be great to see him back and hope he does well.
I don't think he'll do that well. Personally don't think he'll win many matches, but great for the profile of the sport
Yeah i think we are all in that boat, noone really expects him to start winning tournaments, even matches would be a start. He announced he is delaying his return until November so he can get himself ready, it would be nice for him to get a couple wins or some sort of run unlikely. Look at Jimmy he is far ahead of Hendry these days and he cant win for toffee (bar the seniors)
I'm not a big fan of these tour wildcards. I understand that a lot of people still like to see the old names, but if you're not good enough you shouldn't qualify. Maybe just in a couple of tournaments like the UK and the WC. They need to invest more in the base of the pyramid. Where are kids going to learn to play when there are so few clubs now? O'Sullivan may have made the point in a crass way but he is right that the standard is going down and that is inevitable when all the clubs have gone. Him Williams and Higgins have all featured in the last 4 world finals but they are not as good as they were ten or twenty years ago.
Last time Hendry played, didn't he lose 13-1 to Maguire? Mind you he did make a 147 that tournament.
1. Judd Trump
2. Ronnie O'Sullivan
3. Neil Robertson
4. Mark Selby
5. Mark Allen
6. Kyren Wilson
7. John Higgins
8. Shaun Murphy
9. Stephen Maguire
10. Mark Williams
11. Dave Gilbert
12. Ding Junhui
13. Stuart Bingham
14. Jack Lisowski
15. Yan Bingtao
16. Joe Perry
17. Barry Hawkins
18. Gary Wilson
19. Ali Carter
20. Thepchaiya Un-Nooh
21. Graeme Dott
22. Anthony McGill
23. Scott Donaldson
24. Tom Ford
25. Zhou Yuelong
26. Matthew Selt
27. Kurt Maflin
28. Jimmy Robertson
29. Zhao Xintong
30. Michael Holt
31. Xiao Guodong
32. Noppon Saengkham
33. Matthew Stevens
34. Martin O'Donnell
35. Liang Wenbo
36. Mark King
37. Ryan Day
38. Luca Brecel
39. Mark Davis
40. Anthony Hamilton
41. Hossein Vafaei
42. Ben Woollaston
43. Lyu Haotian
44. Li Hang
45. Yuan Sijun
46. Ricky Walden
47. Stuart Carrington
48. Alan McManus
49. Robert Milkins
50. Marco Fu
51. Lu Ning
52. Akani Songsermsawad
53. Martin Gould
54. Tian Pengfei
55. Mei Xiwen
56. Daniel Wells
57. Chris Wakelin
58. Sam Craigie
59. Andrew Higginson
60. Elliot Slessor
61. Luo Honghao
62. Joe O'Connor
63. Liam Highfield
64. Mark Joyce
65. Robbie Williams
66. Fergal O'Brien
67. Jak Jones
68. Ken Doherty
69. Jordan Brown
70. Michael Georgiou
71. Michael White
72. Zhang Anda
73. Sam Baird
74. Alfie Burden
75. Craig Steadman
76. Jamie Clarke
77. Ashley Carty
78. Ian Burns
79. Alexander Ursenbacher
80. John Astley
81. Mike Dunn
82. Louis Heathcote
83. Nigel Bond
84. David Grace
85. Lee Walker
86. Dominic Dale
87. Oliver Lines
88. Eden Sharav
89. Harvey Chandler
90. Jackson Page
91. Mitchell Mann
92. Gerard Greene
93. Kishan Hirani
94. Chen Feilong
95. James Wattana
96. Fan Zhengyi
97. Hammad Miah
98. Thor Chuan Leong
99. Zhang Jiankang
100. Barry Pinches
101. Kacper Filipiak
102. Si Jiahui
103. Chang Bingyu
104. Andy Lee
105. Chen Zifan
106. Soheil Vahedi
107. Rod Lawler
108. Igor Figueiredo
109. James Cahill
110. Xu Si
111. Jimmy White
112. Simon Lichtenberg
113. Adam Stefanow
114. Billy Castle
115. Jamie O'Neil
116. Duane Jones
117. Peter Lines
118. David Lilley
119. Brandon Sargeant
120. Fraser Patrick
121. Bai Langning
122. Andy Hicks
123. Amine Amiri
124. Lei Peifan
125. Alex Borg
126. Riley Parsons
127. Steve Mifsud
Some of those below the top 64 cut of were on the first year of their 2 year tour card so they were safe, so the players that were relegated were.
Ken Doherty
Michael Georgiou
Michael White
Zhang Anda
Sam Baird
Alfie Burden
Craig Steadman
John Astley
Mike Dunn
Lee Walker
Oliver Lines
Harvey Chandler
Kishan Hirani
Chen Feilong
James Wattana
Fan Zhengyi
Hammad Miah
Thor Chuan Leong
Zhang Jiankang
Andy Lee
Simon Lichtenberg
Adam Stefanow
But since then we have had Q School so we now know that:
Lee Walker
Simon Lichtenberg
Fan Zhengyi
Oliver Lines
Regained their tour card straight away.
Still waiting to hear if Ken Doherty or James Wattana will be receiving an invitation Tour Card or if thats it for them, will do a fully update on the list of tpur players next season when I know about those 2 for sure.
Was more shocked he went to Q School, he said a few months ago if he dropped out of the top 64 that would be it.
I follow him on twitter and he never seems to bothered about snooker, not one to be practicing loads and probably still wishes he made it as a footballer rather than a snooker player.
He doesn't seem like the sort of person who would go around on the q tour trying to get a the odd win here and there not on the big stage, there was no way he would do that, so when he failed at Q School he was always going to call it a day imo
Although I wouldn't be surprised to see him try Q School again in a couple of years time, if he gets bored
Apologies its 129 on the tour the original article on Hendrys return was slightly misleading and mentioned Wattana getting an invitational tour card but they meant in the last and he hasnt been given one for the upcoming season, so I have removed James Wattana and these are the 129 confirmed players for the upcoming season
1. Judd Trump 2. Ronnie O'Sullivan 3. Neil Robertson 4. Mark Selby 5. Mark Allen 6. Kyren Wilson 7. John Higgins 8. Shaun Murphy 9. Stephen Maguire 10. Mark Williams 11. Dave Gilbert 12. Ding Junhui 13. Stuart Bingham 14. Jack Lisowski 15. Yan Bingtao 16. Joe Perry
17. Barry Hawkins 18. Gary Wilson 19. Ali Carter 20. Thepchaiya Un-Nooh 21. Graeme Dott 22. Anthony McGill 23. Scott Donaldson 24. Tom Ford 25. Zhou Yuelong 26. Matthew Selt 27. Kurt Maflin 28. Jimmy Robertson 29. Zhao Xintong 30. Michael Holt 31. Xiao Guodong 32. Noppon Saengkham 33. Matthew Stevens 34. Martin O'Donnell 35. Liang Wenbo 36. Mark King 37. Ryan Day 38. Luca Brecel 39. Mark Davis 40. Anthony Hamilton 41. Hossein Vafaei 42. Ben Woollaston 43. Lyu Haotian 44. Li Hang 45. Yuan Sijun 46. Ricky Walden 47. Stuart Carrington 48. Alan McManus 49. Robert Milkins 50. Marco Fu 51. Lu Ning 52. Akani Songsermsawad 53. Martin Gould 54. Tian Pengfei 55. Mei Xiwen 56. Daniel Wells 57. Chris Wakelin 58. Sam Craigie 59. Andrew Higginson 60. Elliot Slessor 61. Luo Honghao 62. Joe O'Connor 63. Liam Highfield 64. Mark Joyce
65. Robbie Williams 66. Fergal O'Brien 67. Jak Jones 68. Jordan Brown 69. Jamie Clarke 70. Ashley Carty 71. Ian Burns 72. Alexander Ursenbacher 73. Louis Heathcote 74. Nigel Bond 75. David Grace 76. Dominic Dale 77. Eden Sharav 78. Jackson Page 79. Mitchell Mann 80. Gerard Greene 81. Barry Pinches 82. Kacper Filipiak 83. Si Jiahui 84. Chang Bingyu 85. Chen Zifan 86. Soheil Vahedi 87. Rod Lawler 88. James Cahill 89. Igor Figueiredo 90. Xu Si 91. Jimmy White 92. Billy Castle 93. Jamie O'Neil 94. Duane Jones 95. Peter Lines 96. David Lilley 97. Brandon Sargeant 98. Fraser Patrick 99. Bai Langning 100. Andy Hicks 101. Amine Amiri 102. Lei Peifan 103. Alex Borg 104. Riley Parsons 105. Steve Mifsud
106. Andrew Pagett 107. Aaron Hill 108. Ashley Hugill 109. Iulian Boiko(14 years old) 110. Gao Yang(16 years old) 111. Sean Maddocks 112. Pang Junxu 113. Zhao Jianbo(16 years old) 114. Lukas Kleckers 115. Allan Taylor 116. Lee Walker 117. Peter Devlin 118. Simon Lichtenberg 119. Fan Zhengyi 120. Jamie Jones 121. Zak Surety 122. Oliver Lines 123. Ben Hancorn 124. Rory McLeod 125. Jamie Wilson(16 years old) 126. Farakh Ajaib 127. Steven Hallworth 128. Ken Doherty 129. Stephen Hendry
I haven't really been following this i've been swamped, i noticed it was on freesports earlier not sure if it is much but that will be good. Obviously i always watch pool on there Monday nights (well recorded) good to see them get some snooker too.
I haven't really been following this i've been swamped, i noticed it was on freesports earlier not sure if it is much but that will be good. Obviously i always watch pool on there Monday nights (well recorded) good to see them get some snooker too.
Had noticed that, i have been waching it on matchroomlive for free
Dominic Dale and Zhou Yuelong are the 2 players who progress to the next stage from Group 5 and 6
Zhao Jianbo who is now 17 not 16 he had a birthday a couple of weeks ago, will be disappointed he finished 2nd on frame difference but if he had beaten Gerard Greene in the final match would have topped the group in his first event, he looks a good talent tho
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Golf- I had a decent swing but was no good. But I have had a hole in one, and on a par 4. It's a fluke. 300 at ten pin would be better to include.
Darts - I can see the argument. I used to have a board in my room and played a lot. I had a few 180s and did the odd 100 plus checkout. But when I played a couple of team matches I could barely hit the 20. I am sure that pro darts players do the nine darter several times a day in practice. There have been two in one match before.
But definitely for me, 147 is the hardest. Although strangely it isn't necessarily the hardest thing in snooker. Some 70s with all the reds on cushions are harder than some 147s. If you changed the rules and made the yellow worth 7 then you would never see a 147.
i.e. yellow = 7, green = 6, brown = 5, blue = 4, pink = 3, black = 2?
That would actually be quite interesting to see - the amount of work required for positioning to make a big break would be enormous. Pointless for average joes like me, but the world class players would have to completely change their approach to the game strategically.
Jimmy White beat Stephen Hendry 4-2
Ken Doherty beat Michael Judge 4-1
Ken Doherty is now 4-0 up on Jimmy White in the final, bit of a non contest atm, hopefully Jimmy comes back a bit in the 2nd half
So anyone on here over 40, when details get released I will post on here, if you think you have what it takes and fancy being at the crucible next year, then why not give it a try lol
Final
Jimmy White 5-4 Ken Doherty
At 4-0 down I did not see this coming what a comeback from Jimmy White as he retains his World Seniors title and a place in the Champion of Champions
Yes you read that correct
Stephen Hendry is back, the king of the crucible has taken up a 2 year invitational tour card to join the main tour
https://wst.tv/king-of-the-crucible-hendry-returns/
These are the 130 playerd with pro tour cards for this coming season
1. Judd Trump
2. Ronnie O'Sullivan
3. Neil Robertson
4. Mark Selby
5. Mark Allen
6. Kyren Wilson
7. John Higgins
8. Shaun Murphy
9. Stephen Maguire
10. Mark Williams
11. Dave Gilbert
12. Ding Junhui
13. Stuart Bingham
14. Jack Lisowski
15. Yan Bingtao
16. Joe Perry
17. Barry Hawkins
18. Gary Wilson
19. Ali Carter
20. Thepchaiya Un-Nooh
21. Graeme Dott
22. Anthony McGill
23. Scott Donaldson
24. Tom Ford
25. Zhou Yuelong
26. Matthew Selt
27. Kurt Maflin
28. Jimmy Robertson
29. Zhao Xintong
30. Michael Holt
31. Xiao Guodong
32. Noppon Saengkham
33. Matthew Stevens
34. Martin O'Donnell
35. Liang Wenbo
36. Mark King
37. Ryan Day
38. Luca Brecel
39. Mark Davis
40. Anthony Hamilton
41. Hossein Vafaei
42. Ben Woollaston
43. Lyu Haotian
44. Li Hang
45. Yuan Sijun
46. Ricky Walden
47. Stuart Carrington
48. Alan McManus
49. Robert Milkins
50. Marco Fu
51. Lu Ning
52. Akani Songsermsawad
53. Martin Gould
54. Tian Pengfei
55. Mei Xiwen
56. Daniel Wells
57. Chris Wakelin
58. Sam Craigie
59. Andrew Higginson
60. Elliot Slessor
61. Luo Honghao
62. Joe O'Connor
63. Liam Highfield
64. Mark Joyce
65. Robbie Williams
66. Fergal O'Brien
67. Jak Jones
68. Jordan Brown
69. Jamie Clarke
70. Ashley Carty
71. Ian Burns
72. Alexander Ursenbacher
73. Louis Heathcote
74. Nigel Bond
75. David Grace
76. Dominic Dale
77. Eden Sharav
78. Jackson Page
79. Mitchell Mann
80. Gerard Greene
81. Barry Pinches
82. Kacper Filipiak
83. Si Jiahui
84. Chang Bingyu
85. Chen Zifan
86. Soheil Vahedi
87. Rod Lawler
88. James Cahill
89. Igor Figueiredo
90. Xu Si
91. Jimmy White
92. Billy Castle
93. Jamie O'Neil
94. Duane Jones
95. Peter Lines
96. David Lilley
97. Brandon Sargeant
98. Fraser Patrick
99. Bai Langning
100. Andy Hicks
101. Amine Amiri
102. Lei Peifan
103. Alex Borg
104. Riley Parsons
105. Steve Mifsud
106. Andrew Pagett
107. Aaron Hill
108. Ashley Hugill
109. Iulian Boiko(14 years old)
110. Gao Yang(16 years old)
111. Sean Maddocks
112. Pang Junxu
113. Zhao Jianbo(16 years old)
114. Lukas Kleckers
115. Allan Taylor
116. Lee Walker
117. Peter Devlin
118. Simon Lichtenberg
119. Fan Zhengyi
120. Jamie Jones
121. Zak Surety
122. Oliver Lines
123. Ben Hancorn
124. Rory McLeod
125. Jamie Wilson(16 years old)
126. Farakh Ajaib
127. Steven Hallworth
128. Ken Doherty
129. James Wattana
130. Stephen Hendry
I am Ronnie over Hendry, but still will be great to see him back and hope he does well.
They need to invest more in the base of the pyramid. Where are kids going to learn to play when there are so few clubs now?
O'Sullivan may have made the point in a crass way but he is right that the standard is going down and that is inevitable when all the clubs have gone. Him Williams and Higgins have all featured in the last 4 world finals but they are not as good as they were ten or twenty years ago.
Last time Hendry played, didn't he lose 13-1 to Maguire? Mind you he did make a 147 that tournament.
Was more shocked he went to Q School, he said a few months ago if he dropped out of the top 64 that would be it.
I follow him on twitter and he never seems to bothered about snooker, not one to be practicing loads and probably still wishes he made it as a footballer rather than a snooker player.
He doesn't seem like the sort of person who would go around on the q tour trying to get a the odd win here and there not on the big stage, there was no way he would do that, so when he failed at Q School he was always going to call it a day imo
Although I wouldn't be surprised to see him try Q School again in a couple of years time, if he gets bored
1. Judd Trump
2. Ronnie O'Sullivan
3. Neil Robertson
4. Mark Selby
5. Mark Allen
6. Kyren Wilson
7. John Higgins
8. Shaun Murphy
9. Stephen Maguire
10. Mark Williams
11. Dave Gilbert
12. Ding Junhui
13. Stuart Bingham
14. Jack Lisowski
15. Yan Bingtao
16. Joe Perry
17. Barry Hawkins
18. Gary Wilson
19. Ali Carter
20. Thepchaiya Un-Nooh
21. Graeme Dott
22. Anthony McGill
23. Scott Donaldson
24. Tom Ford
25. Zhou Yuelong
26. Matthew Selt
27. Kurt Maflin
28. Jimmy Robertson
29. Zhao Xintong
30. Michael Holt
31. Xiao Guodong
32. Noppon Saengkham
33. Matthew Stevens
34. Martin O'Donnell
35. Liang Wenbo
36. Mark King
37. Ryan Day
38. Luca Brecel
39. Mark Davis
40. Anthony Hamilton
41. Hossein Vafaei
42. Ben Woollaston
43. Lyu Haotian
44. Li Hang
45. Yuan Sijun
46. Ricky Walden
47. Stuart Carrington
48. Alan McManus
49. Robert Milkins
50. Marco Fu
51. Lu Ning
52. Akani Songsermsawad
53. Martin Gould
54. Tian Pengfei
55. Mei Xiwen
56. Daniel Wells
57. Chris Wakelin
58. Sam Craigie
59. Andrew Higginson
60. Elliot Slessor
61. Luo Honghao
62. Joe O'Connor
63. Liam Highfield
64. Mark Joyce
65. Robbie Williams
66. Fergal O'Brien
67. Jak Jones
68. Jordan Brown
69. Jamie Clarke
70. Ashley Carty
71. Ian Burns
72. Alexander Ursenbacher
73. Louis Heathcote
74. Nigel Bond
75. David Grace
76. Dominic Dale
77. Eden Sharav
78. Jackson Page
79. Mitchell Mann
80. Gerard Greene
81. Barry Pinches
82. Kacper Filipiak
83. Si Jiahui
84. Chang Bingyu
85. Chen Zifan
86. Soheil Vahedi
87. Rod Lawler
88. James Cahill
89. Igor Figueiredo
90. Xu Si
91. Jimmy White
92. Billy Castle
93. Jamie O'Neil
94. Duane Jones
95. Peter Lines
96. David Lilley
97. Brandon Sargeant
98. Fraser Patrick
99. Bai Langning
100. Andy Hicks
101. Amine Amiri
102. Lei Peifan
103. Alex Borg
104. Riley Parsons
105. Steve Mifsud
106. Andrew Pagett
107. Aaron Hill
108. Ashley Hugill
109. Iulian Boiko(14 years old)
110. Gao Yang(16 years old)
111. Sean Maddocks
112. Pang Junxu
113. Zhao Jianbo(16 years old)
114. Lukas Kleckers
115. Allan Taylor
116. Lee Walker
117. Peter Devlin
118. Simon Lichtenberg
119. Fan Zhengyi
120. Jamie Jones
121. Zak Surety
122. Oliver Lines
123. Ben Hancorn
124. Rory McLeod
125. Jamie Wilson(16 years old)
126. Farakh Ajaib
127. Steven Hallworth
128. Ken Doherty
129. Stephen Hendry
1st set of groups are played between 13th-20th September
2nd set of groups will be played between 28th September-5th October
The 32 group winners then go into another group 8 groups of 4 which will be played between 26-29th October
Then the 8 winners of those go into the final 2 groups to be played on the 30th October
The winners of those final 2 groups meet in the grand final also on the 30th October
Group 1
Judd Trump
Alan McManus
David Lilley
Fan Zhengyi
Group 2
Matthew Stevens
Ryan Day
Rod Lawler
Paul Davison
Group 3
Gary Wilson
Rob Milkins
Chen Zifan
Jamie Jones
Group 4
Barry Hawkins
Sam Craigie
Jackson Page
Ben Hancorn
Group 5
Stephen Maguire
Louis Heathcote
Dominic Dale
Louis Fernandez
Group 6
Zhou Yuelong
Ricky Walden
Gerard Greene
Zhao Jianbo
Group 7
Matthew Selt
Ben Woollaston
Si Jiahui
Gao Yang
Group 8
Shaun Murphy
Martin O'Donnell
Jimmy White
Peter Devlin
Group 9
Mark Allen
Luo Honghao
Billy Joe Castle
Jamie Wilson
Group 10
Zhao Xintong
Liam Highfield
Nigel Bond
Oliver Brown
Group 11
Anthony McGill
Alexander Ursenbacher
Riley Parsons
Lukas Kleckers
Group 12
Stuart Bingham
Yuan Sijun
James Cahill
Pang Junxu
Group 13
Jack Lisowski
Ian Burns
Fraser Patrick
Rory McLeod
Group 14
Graeme Dott
Liang Wenbo
Soheil Vahedi
Zak Surety
Group 15
Michael Holt
Anthony Hamilton
Jamie O'Neil
Sean Maddocks
Group 16
Mark Selby
Lyu Haotian
Brandon Sargeant
Fergal O'Brien
Group 17
Neil Robertson
Andrew Higginson
Eden Sharav
Ken Doherty
Group 18
Xiao Guodong
Hossein Vafaei
Jak Jones
Farakh Ajaib
Group 19
Thepchaiya Un-Nooh
Akani Songsermsawad
Peter Lines
Lee Walker
Group 20
Yan Bingtao
Stuart Carrington
Jordan Brown
Michael White
Group 21
Dave Gilbert
Lu Ning
Xu Si
Aaron Hill
Group 22
Scott Donaldson
Chris Wakelin
Barry Pinches
Ashley Carty
Group 23
Jimmy Robertson
Mark King
David Grace
Allan Taylor
Group 24
Kyren Wilson
Daniel Wells
Duane Jones
Kuldesh Johal
Group 25
John Higgins
Joe O'Connor
Amine Amiri
Brian Ochoiski
Group 26
Kurt Maflin
Martin Gould
Igor Figueiredo
Simon Lichtenberg
Group 27
Tom Ford
Luca Brecel
Mitchell Mann
Ashley Hugill
Group 28
Mark Williams
Mark Joyce
Lei Peifan
Jamie Clarke
Group 29
Joe Perry
Elliot Slessor
Kacper Filipiak
Steven Hallworth
Group 30
Ali Carter
Mark Davis
Chang Bingyu
Jamie Curtis-Barrett
Group 31
Noppon Saengkham
Tian Pengfei
Robbie Williams
Oliver Lines
Group 32
Ronnie O'Sullivan
Li Hang
Alex Borg
Iulian Boiko
14 year old Boiko will face O'Sullivan 🤦♂️ nice start for him haha as well as Borg and Hang
As for the three 16 year olds
Gao Yang has Selt, Woollaston and Jiahui
Zhao Jianbo has Yuelong, Walden and Greene
Jamie Wilson has Allen, Honghao and Castle
Well that was some way to ease back into snooker lol
Ryan Day makes the 158th 147 and his 2nd, his first came in October 2014
Zhao Jianbo who is now 17 not 16 he had a birthday a couple of weeks ago, will be disappointed he finished 2nd on frame difference but if he had beaten Gerard Greene in the final match would have topped the group in his first event, he looks a good talent tho