I don't understand why everyone holds him in this god like position, he's not good enough IMO, we need to give someone else a chance to try turn it around
I don't understand why everyone holds him in this god like position, he's not good enough IMO, we need to give someone else a chance to try turn it around
I honestly would give anyone a chance tbh, I wouldn't really care who, we need someone fresh.
If this was any another manager in charge with us doing so poorly, and the same situation with the board, I can guarentee that everyone would be screaming for us to go.
Just out of interest, why do people think he's the only person who can get us out of this position, when he is one of the reasons we're in it?
LOL. I think he got the tactics spot on today. We won the battle for midfield, we had some misfortune with their first goal. Derby are a top team in the league and we matched them today, only they had a bit of luck. eo.
I feel sorry for Powell, he's not had the funds to bring in the players he's wanted (or needed) over the last two summers, however, he seems to have lost it with the current crop, he has no idea what his best 11 is or even his preferred formation - I'm torn on this one...
I honestly would give anyone a chance tbh, I wouldn't really care who, we need someone fresh.
If this was any another manager in charge with us doing so poorly, and the same situation with the board, I can guarentee that everyone would be screaming for us to go.
Just out of interest, why do people think he's the only person who can get us out of this position, when he is one of the reasons we're in it?
I think it's the feeling that the club is so unstable that bringing somebody else in will just make that worse. It's not as if we're a well run club with a crap manager. We're a badly run club with a manager who's trying to do his best under the circumstances and bringing somebody new in to that mix might just be a recipe for disaster. On the other hand……...
Powell is 100% the man for the job. No one realistically can come in and turns things around.
Majority of the teams contracts running out pretty sharpish including powells and its clearly affecting the whole squad. He has to try and keep moral up while we are in the shit and he knows he hasn't got a penny to spend.
I honestly would give anyone a chance tbh, I wouldn't really care who, we need someone fresh.
If this was any another manager in charge with us doing so poorly, and the same situation with the board, I can guarentee that everyone would be screaming for us to go.
Just out of interest, why do people think he's the only person who can get us out of this position, when he is one of the reasons we're in it?
Even if someone else could do a better job, if Powell went the current owners would save money by giving the job to Dyer, just like the last clueless owners paid off Pardew and thought it would be a top wheeze to give his job to his even more useless assistant.
I honestly would give anyone a chance tbh, I wouldn't really care who, we need someone fresh.
If this was any another manager in charge with us doing so poorly, and the same situation with the board, I can guarentee that everyone would be screaming for us to go.
Just out of interest, why do people think he's the only person who can get us out of this position, when he is one of the reasons we're in it?
You can't seriously think that "anybody" would be better? The Dowie-Reed-Pardew-Parky years are too close to think that things couldn't get any worse. A new manager could help but it's a risk and it's not like they would be able to bring in their own players.
And who's make the decision of the new manager? The top table who really don't give a shit?
surely wrong .. the 'top table' might not be dedicated CAFC fans but they are businessmen/dealers trying to sell the club, at least so we are led to believe. I am sure that they give more than 'a shit' about money. A championship club with CAFC's facilities and structures (despite debts and no money) is worth more than most 1st Division clubs, possibly with the exception of (e.g.) The Blades and Wolves ... CAFC in the Championship would fetch more money for a seller than it would were it in the 1st Division
made all the right decisions today, can barely think of anything he has done wrong, stupidest thing possible to do now would be to sack him! Its not always the manager's fault, certainly the budget and several refs dont seem to have helped us - particularly the leeds game. Im a qualified ref so I can say that.
I am a big supporter of CP and am willing him to succeed. He obviously hasn't been allowed to strengthen the squad as he had wished. However I do believe the the current group of players should be doing a lot better than they are and that they are not is down to CP and his coaching staff. I thought he got the starting line up wrong today. Kermy drops too deep to play the up top role and I don't think the answer to not scoring goals is to play one striker. We need to stick to 4-4-2 and stop tinkering. And although changes were needed, and too late in my opinion, I thought subbing Green was unwise and not needed. If our owners had any money I'm sure CP would have gone by now. He's clinging on because they can't afford to dispense with his services.
I honestly would give anyone a chance tbh, I wouldn't really care who, we need someone fresh.
If this was any another manager in charge with us doing so poorly, and the same situation with the board, I can guarentee that everyone would be screaming for us to go.
Just out of interest, why do people think he's the only person who can get us out of this position, when he is one of the reasons we're in it?
Give me strength. It's this kind of short sighted, knee-jerk reaction that puts football teams in the messes they get into. Powell has consistently overachieved with Charlton and now we're struggling in a season where we have had no investment whatsoever in the squad. The lack of investment has affected us up front and as a result we struggle to score goals. If there's no money to refresh the squad up front that's not going to change. What good is paying out to get rid of the manager and replace him with any old person? All that does it put us in more financial mess without any changes in attack. Why not get Dowie back in, he's free..
Here lies the reason I haven't posted on here in a few weeks...
What are people expecting him to do? I'm genuinely struggling to understand the logic behind people that want him to go.
Let's have a quick recap of his tenure so far:
2010/2011 - Powell comes in and tries to get to grips with what he's been given from the previous management. Not a great half-season but he see's that a change is required, and begins a rather ruthless cull of the playing staff.
2011/2012 - Powell begins his first full season as a manager, and rather than taking things slowly he's jumped in with both feet: he's rebuilt the team from scratch. He's managed to build a very good team dynamic and we have a record breaking season - ending with over 100 points and comfortably number one.
[[ Here is where the dreaded financial "rumours began"; Airman Brown's prophecy that we may not last another season, contractors not being paid and transfers not going ahead... ]]
2012/2013 - In our first season in the Championship Powell makes minimal improvements to the team, in fact only securing the contracts of a reserve goalkeeper (Button) and RB/RW (Wilson). Shortly in to the season we manage to get Ricardo Fuller on a free, we also get another striker (Rob Hulse) for a few months on Loan.
Despite stepping a league up with largely the same set of players, we finish a respectable ninth - thanks to a late run of form and the arrival of a new striker (Obika) on loan. Powell is the first to underline the fact that we got 1"lucky".
2013/2014 - We start the season weaker than we ended the last; losing our strike force of Danny Haynes and Ricardo Fuller. The wage bill is further reduced by releasing a number of players such as Wagstaff, Bradley Wright-Phillips, Kerkar, Button...
We bring in Simon Church on a free, a striker who has never had a prolific goals ratio and has generally spent his career seemingly loaned out to lower league sides. Additionally, we have the loan of Marvin Sordell - loaned from a competing team mainly as he's never been able to hit form with them. (Lets be honest, they hardly think he is a good championship striker if they're loaning him out to another championship club.)
We get to December and some of the more short-sighted elements of our fan base fail to realise that this time a year ago we had more strikers, strikers who were better (Simon Church vs Danny Haynes? Ricardo Fuller vs Marvin Sordell? Rob Hulse vs.. Oh wait, that's it.) and our team was playing with a little bit of confidence that they were going to still have a job in a few months.
Honestly, what do you guys expect? We're playing with an incredibly weak set of strikers (Kermo included, he isn't exactly on top form - and he's spent most of the season injured..) and we're struggling to score. We were linked with other strikers but couldn't get them - is that Powells fault? Did he add the numbers up and say "Nah, bank says no."?
Are you expecting some magic man to come in and be able to get better players without any money behind him? Perhaps a manager who doubles up as a hypnotist could convince a few players to play for free? Get real. If Powell was replaced then these problems will still be present: we have no money (with no real investment coming in any time soon), a squad a league out of it's depth - and a squad with no confidence in their futures.
I like Powell, but he can do wrong in my eyes. Yet to blame him for our current misfortune? Wake up and smell the coffee. Is Powell the reason we're trying to sell our club off to anyone who is stupid enough to consider it? Nope. We're bust, and that's the reason. Until that changes nothing else will.
For those of you who voted to get rid of him though - genuine question, what do you expect a new manager to do, and how do you expect us to finance him? (I'm mainly interested to hear what you expect him to do though.)
Just a question; IF we were taken over and a few million was made available for CP to spend in Jan, but there was still no improvement, would you think it right to sack the fella then?
On the coach on the way home we happened to play the DVD from CP's first season in charge. At the end was an interview with Slater. Yes he does exist and does talk. He said that CP would be backed to assemble a squad capable of getting out of League One AND competing competitively in the Championship. The former happened whilst the latter hasn't. At lot of the current players were bought on the basis that thy would become good Championship players. I would contend that most of them are not good enough. That was a call made by CP. Of course they needed to be supplemented by further decent purchases but I don't think it has helped that some are not up to the task in hand.
Tbh think our good league position last season has got people ahead of themselves. Last year i'd have taken anything that wasn't relegation. My expectations are the same this year. Squad needs an injection of quality and has done since we came up - people need to get realistic and stop adding to any possible negativity around the club. And the players should be playing out of their skins to keep their jobs, we don't owe them a living.
I honestly would give anyone a chance tbh, I wouldn't really care who, we need someone fresh.
If this was any another manager in charge with us doing so poorly, and the same situation with the board, I can guarentee that everyone would be screaming for us to go.
Just out of interest, why do people think he's the only person who can get us out of this position, when he is one of the reasons we're in it?
Give me strength. It's this kind of short sighted, knee-jerk reaction that puts football teams in the messes they get into. Powell has consistently overachieved with Charlton and now we're struggling in a season where we have had no investment whatsoever in the squad. The lack of investment has affected us up front and as a result we struggle to score goals. If there's no money to refresh the squad up front that's not going to change. What good is paying out to get rid of the manager and replace him with any old person? All that does it put us in more financial mess without any changes in attack. Why not get Dowie back in, he's free..
Agree. SCP is a good manager and is our best chance of staying up. The problem lies with the lack of support from the board.
Just a question; IF we were taken over and a few million was made available for CP to spend in Jan, but there was still no improvement, would you think it right to sack the fella then?
Honestly? Yeah, I probably would.
There's no more hiding behind "He hasn't had the support" or "He hasn't got the quality he needs available to him". The fact remains that last time he was given the opportunity to buy a few players and arrange the team to his liking, he did bloody well.
How about another one: IF we got to the Premier League last season, didn't invest any money and then found ourselves with 4 points out of 21 - would you be wanting Powell's P45 given to him or would you be thinking "Jesus christ, he's trying to make wine from water."? Similar scenario, just not quite as extreme.
I don't understand why everyone holds him in this god like position, he's not good enough IMO, we need to give someone else a chance to try turn it around
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If this was any another manager in charge with us doing so poorly, and the same situation with the board, I can guarentee that everyone would be screaming for us to go.
Just out of interest, why do people think he's the only person who can get us out of this position, when he is one of the reasons we're in it?
I feel sorry for Powell, he's not had the funds to bring in the players he's wanted (or needed) over the last two summers, however, he seems to have lost it with the current crop, he has no idea what his best 11 is or even his preferred formation - I'm torn on this one...
Majority of the teams contracts running out pretty sharpish including powells and its clearly affecting the whole squad. He has to try and keep moral up while we are in the shit and he knows he hasn't got a penny to spend.
Not an easy job.
Be careful what you wish for...
Not a chance in hell!
He stays.
No money
No support from owner or chairman
Continual failed financial input
And a big meltdown on the horizan
No one with any quality will touch it
I wonder what the board think?
Any significance in my being number 69 I wonder?
What are people expecting him to do? I'm genuinely struggling to understand the logic behind people that want him to go.
Let's have a quick recap of his tenure so far:
2010/2011 - Powell comes in and tries to get to grips with what he's been given from the previous management. Not a great half-season but he see's that a change is required, and begins a rather ruthless cull of the playing staff.
2011/2012 - Powell begins his first full season as a manager, and rather than taking things slowly he's jumped in with both feet: he's rebuilt the team from scratch. He's managed to build a very good team dynamic and we have a record breaking season - ending with over 100 points and comfortably number one.
[[ Here is where the dreaded financial "rumours began"; Airman Brown's prophecy that we may not last another season, contractors not being paid and transfers not going ahead... ]]
2012/2013 - In our first season in the Championship Powell makes minimal improvements to the team, in fact only securing the contracts of a reserve goalkeeper (Button) and RB/RW (Wilson). Shortly in to the season we manage to get Ricardo Fuller on a free, we also get another striker (Rob Hulse) for a few months on Loan.
Despite stepping a league up with largely the same set of players, we finish a respectable ninth - thanks to a late run of form and the arrival of a new striker (Obika) on loan. Powell is the first to underline the fact that we got 1"lucky".
2013/2014 - We start the season weaker than we ended the last; losing our strike force of Danny Haynes and Ricardo Fuller. The wage bill is further reduced by releasing a number of players such as Wagstaff, Bradley Wright-Phillips, Kerkar, Button...
We bring in Simon Church on a free, a striker who has never had a prolific goals ratio and has generally spent his career seemingly loaned out to lower league sides. Additionally, we have the loan of Marvin Sordell - loaned from a competing team mainly as he's never been able to hit form with them. (Lets be honest, they hardly think he is a good championship striker if they're loaning him out to another championship club.)
We get to December and some of the more short-sighted elements of our fan base fail to realise that this time a year ago we had more strikers, strikers who were better (Simon Church vs Danny Haynes? Ricardo Fuller vs Marvin Sordell? Rob Hulse vs.. Oh wait, that's it.) and our team was playing with a little bit of confidence that they were going to still have a job in a few months.
Honestly, what do you guys expect? We're playing with an incredibly weak set of strikers (Kermo included, he isn't exactly on top form - and he's spent most of the season injured..) and we're struggling to score. We were linked with other strikers but couldn't get them - is that Powells fault? Did he add the numbers up and say "Nah, bank says no."?
Are you expecting some magic man to come in and be able to get better players without any money behind him? Perhaps a manager who doubles up as a hypnotist could convince a few players to play for free? Get real. If Powell was replaced then these problems will still be present: we have no money (with no real investment coming in any time soon), a squad a league out of it's depth - and a squad with no confidence in their futures.
I like Powell, but he can do wrong in my eyes. Yet to blame him for our current misfortune? Wake up and smell the coffee. Is Powell the reason we're trying to sell our club off to anyone who is stupid enough to consider it? Nope. We're bust, and that's the reason. Until that changes nothing else will.
For those of you who voted to get rid of him though - genuine question, what do you expect a new manager to do, and how do you expect us to finance him? (I'm mainly interested to hear what you expect him to do though.)
There's no more hiding behind "He hasn't had the support" or "He hasn't got the quality he needs available to him". The fact remains that last time he was given the opportunity to buy a few players and arrange the team to his liking, he did bloody well.
How about another one: IF we got to the Premier League last season, didn't invest any money and then found ourselves with 4 points out of 21 - would you be wanting Powell's P45 given to him or would you be thinking "Jesus christ, he's trying to make wine from water."? Similar scenario, just not quite as extreme.