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Standard Liege (page 12, rumours of new bid)

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  • MountsfieldPark
    MountsfieldPark Posts: 2,074
    edited December 2014
    defke said:

    RD have maybe a buyer for standard - someone of arabic world - just rumor but was on a site of the rtbf television

    Thanks for the intel. These guys have seen the same story as you. 60million euros is the rumoured amount. Do you think that is a fair price? The fan comment at the bottom of the page is not exactly thrilled by the possibility of a Middle Eastern takeover.

    lacapitale.be/1160761/article/2014-12-01/standard-roland-duchatelet-aurait-recu-une-offre-de-rachat-de-60-millions-d-euro

    By the way, RSL seem to have suffered a dip in form recently, with 4 defeats in the last 5 and Thuram-Ulien, the goalie who spent time at CAFC last season, has let in 10 goals in that time. It looks like the recovery under Vukomanovic has stalled for the time being.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    Le ride bumpy
  • Mundell Fleming
    Mundell Fleming Posts: 854
    edited December 2014

    Le ride bumpy

    True, but who for? The club or the owner?! I suspect Duchatelet has had a tough time at Standard Liege.

    If he sticks around at Charlton I'm not sure the ride wil be any bumpier than is likely under many owners, especially since he appears willing to invest in infrastructure, including the Academy, of course.

    The risk perhaps, especially with the FFP rules torn up, is that Duchatelet's strategy doesn't work and that he has a bumpy ride, spending more money than he wants to, simply to enable the club to compete in the Championship.

    I'm really enjoying the ride, and this season has been a breath of fresh air. The question is how long will it last before we join Standard in the For Sale showroom?

    Hope I'm wrong, but I'm still struggling to reconcile the stated financial objectives with the fact that other teams have much bigger salary budgets and that promotion is the only realistic way to break even. Unless we spend a lot more money we'll need a very high level of skill and/or a very large slice of luck to make it to the Premier League.
  • defke said:

    RD have maybe a buyer for standard - someone of arabic world - just rumor but was on a site of the rtbf television

    Thanks for the intel. These guys have seen the same story as you. 60million euros is the rumoured amount. Do you think that is a fair price? The fan comment at the bottom of the page is not exactly thrilled by the possibility of a Middle Eastern takeover.

    lacapitale.be/1160761/article/2014-12-01/standard-roland-duchatelet-aurait-recu-une-offre-de-rachat-de-60-millions-d-euro

    By the way, RSL seem to have suffered a dip in form recently, with 4 defeats in the last 5 and Thuram-Ulien, the goalie who spent time at CAFC last season, has let in 10 goals in that time. It looks like the recovery under Vukomanovic has stalled for the time being.
    Normal service resumed for Thuram.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    We know a song about that we could lend you..
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,972
    Promotion does not ensure a clubs finances, very few prem clubs make money or break even. Due to player costs most lose vast sums of money, just look at the teams that have been relegated.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited December 2014
    If RD does sell RSL then that will obviously end the ready made transfer supply of players, loan or permanent which some would applaud but like it or not they contributed to our escape from relegation last season and are playing a part in the current one.

    Simplistically it could be argued financially RD would be £48m better off so wouldn't need to shuffle his payer assets on the cheap and be able to push the boat out on transfers, not sure that's RD's style though. Bumpy ride indeed Henners!
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    ffp has changed, meaning he could invest more, perhaps the value of a network lessens in that circumstance
  • It would certainly explain selling their best players and not really replacing them. Similar to Slater and Jimenez here. RD wants out so he can pump some more cash into his favourite club. Just make sure you sign up Buyens on a permanent deal first Roland!
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    RedChaser said:

    If RD does sell RSL then that will obviously end the ready made transfer supply of players, loan or permanent which some would applaud but like it or not they contributed to our escape from relegation last season and are playing a part in the current one.

    Simplistically it could be argued financially RD would be £48m better off so wouldn't need to shuffle his payer assets on the cheap and be able to push the boat out on transfers, not sure that's RD's style though. Bumpy ride indeed Henners!

    could lose Buyens and Bulot in January then

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    Lots of possibilities both positive and negative.

    When it is on the SL site official.

    No doubt Candide will be along soon to tell us "all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds" and this is all part of the strategy : - )
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,900

    Lots of possibilities both positive and negative.

    When it is on the SL site official.

    No doubt Candide will be along soon to tell us "all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds" and this is all part of the strategy : - )


    is there a leibnitz on the playing staff at SL ?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    lolwray said:

    Lots of possibilities both positive and negative.

    When it is on the SL site official.

    No doubt Candide will be along soon to tell us "all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds" and this is all part of the strategy : - )


    is there a leibnitz on the playing staff at SL ?
    Deep but very good. :-)
  • FFP has indeed changed such that only the likes of QPR would fail, and possibly Leicester. Let's see how that affects spending and prices in the window. If prices go up then Watford and ourselves maintain an advantage since we can source some players from the network which is simpler and cheaper.

    I won't comment on Liege except to say M.Duchatelet might prefer life in the Jupiler league with St Truiden where expectations will be a tad lower. He suggested merging the Jupiler with the Eredivisie in the Netherlands to enhance the competition but that didn't happen so what else can he do except either sell Liege or have another go at winning the league and qualifying for the champions league. And that might be expensive?

    To me the challenge at Charlton appears so much simpler. Break even is just a random number but running a plan to a budget and adding value to the enterprise over time is the challenge.

    Three of the top six at present are clubs similar to us or smaller. The difference is that they've been building for longer. Another 12 months at CAFC and we will be in very good shape. Perhaps good enough to beat Liege?!

    Not sure we would miss Bulot as he hasn't played much but we've seen what happens when Buyens is out. So it's a pain if he goes.

  • Pretty sure Buyens is on a year long loan and cannot be recalled in January?
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,900
    RedChaser said:

    lolwray said:

    Lots of possibilities both positive and negative.

    When it is on the SL site official.

    No doubt Candide will be along soon to tell us "all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds" and this is all part of the strategy : - )


    is there a leibnitz on the playing staff at SL ?
    Deep but very good. :-)
    if we start playing at the "el dorado" stadium i ll know Henry s onto something

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  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032

    Pretty sure Buyens is on a year long loan and cannot be recalled in January?


    I think both Bulot and Buyens could be called back by Standard during the window .

    What would our feelings be if for example if RD lost Buyens but then brought Coquelin as a replacement with his new found money ? Bulot is going to the African Cup of Nations so it that context would Standard want to recall him?

    A worrying aspect would be that Standard have changed managers since the loans were made and the new man might want to consider all of his available options.

  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Lost 4-1 at home tonight
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  • I'd be very worried if we lost Buyens. Class act
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,737
    Richard J said:

    Pretty sure Buyens is on a year long loan and cannot be recalled in January?


    I think both Bulot and Buyens could be called back by Standard during the window .

    What would our feelings be if for example if RD lost Buyens but then brought Coquelin as a replacement with his new found money ? Bulot is going to the African Cup of Nations so it that context would Standard want to recall him?

    A worrying aspect would be that Standard have changed managers since the loans were made and the new man might want to consider all of his available options.


    If Standard are bought by an Arab consortium I would think that they will setting their sights higher than Bulot and Buyens.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    Bulot has hardly played for us so wouldn't be a huge loss.
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    He should sell us all his good players for £0 before he sells
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Nick Buyens, Ajdarevic and bulot then sell the club
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    Swisdom said:

    Nick Buyens, Ajdarevic and bulot then sell the club

    Maybe Bulot on a loan with no recall clause, I'm not convinced yet.
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    Swisdom said:

    Nick Buyens, Ajdarevic and bulot then sell the club

    And is Nick Yoni's brother?

    If he's half as good, sign him up!
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,144
    Swisdom said:

    Nick Buyens, Ajdarevic and bulot then sell the club

    Why Ajdarevic?

    He has hardly played for Standard since returning. He's a talented turkey.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,309

    Swisdom said:

    Nick Buyens, Ajdarevic and bulot then sell the club

    Why Ajdarevic?

    He has hardly played for Standard since returning. He's a talented turkey.
    Better than Harriott
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,144
    J BLOCK said:

    Swisdom said:

    Nick Buyens, Ajdarevic and bulot then sell the club

    Why Ajdarevic?

    He has hardly played for Standard since returning. He's a talented turkey.
    Better than Harriott
    Well that could go right off thread; but I think the reason Ajdarevic was dumped on us, and why he isn't in the Standard team, is that he is unable to achieve a level of fitness that allows him to do what he is paid to do; play for 90 minutes. For that reason, I would say, avoid at all costs.