buyens had more than a few dodgy moments today agreed, although improved towards the end of the game. Jacko on the other hand was just not involved. Jacko has been excellent in the past but players dont go on forever and CM is such a demanding position, requiring dynamism and speed of thought. I fear he can no longer offer this.
The Jackson vs buyens who should start argument is a moot point. Unless we bring a starting forward or attacking midfielder on loan, we don't have the depth to leave one in the bench.
Buyens had his worst game for us by a country mile yesterday, normally so reliable in his ditribution and control, he gave it away freely and in dangerous positions.
Not knocking him, everyone has a slip up and I really like him as a player.
JJ was taken off for tactical reasons in that we were putting more forward and he would have been more isolated in the middle. Bob knows his game isn't hurrying players and being in their face so switched it up as Buyens has the energy to do that as would Cousins.
Poyet and Stevens, in his last few months at CAFC could tackle, one early sliding tackle by JJ then what happened ?
I am only talking the midfield players because Solly the CB's and wiggins have done some cracking tackles all season.
The coaches are picking up the way Buyens collects the ball deep and are pressing him quickly, which in recent matches the control and passing has deserted him.
So if number 4 comes in, does number 17 come with him? Both were total pants today. And regardless of who has been worse, at least one of them seems to have a stinker every week of late.
What I will say is this. After he scuffed one in from 30 yards v Norwich (for a MASSIVE contribution it must be said) his fans jumped straight on it and said that was justification for playing him.
So if one moment made him a hero, does a bad game bring this debate back?
I can't see this going away any time soon as aside from the player himself, I fear that the players around him highlight Jacko's shortfalls as a player.
Is Buyens the one to go? Does Cousins play a more prominent central role? Or is this the best we have?
Curb it - that is rude and offensive for saying that I have posted abuse on this board. Ironically more worthy of a flag than the comment.
I haven't sworn or offended anyone in that post. I even mentioned shortfalls of another player.
You have also wasted the moderators time. The flag button is to highlight offensive, bullying or aggressive behaviour in my opinion. Not for a post you don't agree with.
Utterly ridiculous and laughably ludicrous attitude.
Did you even read the post or just assume it was someone on a rant about Jacko?
Well, it's a bit hard to see what's happened as both of Damo's posts have been edited. But as they stand I struggle to see why they should have been flagged. I don't necessarily agree with them, but it's a forum and if there were no differences of opinion it would be incredibly boring. It seems to me that if people use flags for just disagreeing with others, it detracts from the gravity that the flags ought to have.
I just found this, it's from Lookout's original explanations when flags were introduced: "members will be able to "Flag" unacceptable behaviour for the attention of moderators (Important Note: this is not to be used for content you simply don't like or agree with, but is reserved for content that violates the terms of service e.g. abusive behaviour)". It might be worth bearing in mind.
The firsts post I change the word 'turd' to 'pants' so I doubt that did it.
Second post wasn't abusive, it was me saying I was a bit upset by it because it was my mums birthday who died 2 years ago. Nothing abusive but a bit pointless and nothing to do with the conversation. Was wallowing in my own misery and a bit pointless.
But doesn't change the overall issue of flagging a post you don't agree with. Happens more and more on here.
I also think it might be worth maybe starting a game without JJ. Let's maybe see what happens when say cousins and Buyens start in the middle together. You may argue Buyens could also be dropped, but I just think that give Buyens a partner like cousins in the centre, and we might start to see a bit more of the early season form we had from him. We all seem to agree it has become a bit stale in the last few games, we should be trying to mix it up. I think this would be a good place to start
I also think it might be worth maybe starting a game without JJ. Let's maybe see what happens when say cousins and Buyens start in the middle together. You may argue Buyens could also be dropped, but I just think that give Buyens a partner like cousins in the centre, and we might start to see a bit more of the early season form we had from him. We all seem to agree it has become a bit stale in the last few games, we should be trying to mix it up. I think this would be a good place to start
Agree! We only saw the best of Stephens once cousins was played alongside him. It game him the freedom to play his own game and impose himself and allow cousins to do the hard yards.. think the same might happen with Buyens!
I see JJ at London Bridge station in the mornings some weekdays around about 8 50 am . He is usually getting a train from Platform 4 ( coincidentally)probably to the training ground .He missed the last train because he was a bit slow getting there ( also coincidentally) .Doesn' t look to me if he is ready for his Senior Citizen's discount pass just yet but it is of note that he has been travelling on the second class carriages out of London Bridge ( the final coincidence) .
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Jacko has been excellent in the past but players dont go on forever and CM is such a demanding position, requiring dynamism and speed of thought. I fear he can no longer offer this.
Not knocking him, everyone has a slip up and I really like him as a player.
JJ was taken off for tactical reasons in that we were putting more forward and he would have been more isolated in the middle. Bob knows his game isn't hurrying players and being in their face so switched it up as Buyens has the energy to do that as would Cousins.
Still captain fantastic.
I am only talking the midfield players because Solly the CB's and wiggins have done some cracking tackles all season.
The coaches are picking up the way Buyens collects the ball deep and are pressing him quickly, which in recent matches the control and passing has deserted him.
What I will say is this. After he scuffed one in from 30 yards v Norwich (for a MASSIVE contribution it must be said) his fans jumped straight on it and said that was justification for playing him.
So if one moment made him a hero, does a bad game bring this debate back?
I can't see this going away any time soon as aside from the player himself, I fear that the players around him highlight Jacko's shortfalls as a player.
Is Buyens the one to go? Does Cousins play a more prominent central role? Or is this the best we have?
I haven't sworn or offended anyone in that post. I even mentioned shortfalls of another player.
You have also wasted the moderators time. The flag button is to highlight offensive, bullying or aggressive behaviour in my opinion. Not for a post you don't agree with.
Utterly ridiculous and laughably ludicrous attitude.
Did you even read the post or just assume it was someone on a rant about Jacko?
http://www.charltonlife.com/discussion/58155/new-feature-reactions/p1
http://www.charltonlife.com/home/termsofservice
Second post wasn't abusive, it was me saying I was a bit upset by it because it was my mums birthday who died 2 years ago. Nothing abusive but a bit pointless and nothing to do with the conversation. Was wallowing in my own misery and a bit pointless.
But doesn't change the overall issue of flagging a post you don't agree with. Happens more and more on here.