Just a reminder - when Les Reed was appointed first team coach in 1995 the FA forced him to serve out his notice period with them. In practice Les was at Charlton all the time out of work hours until he officially started. The geography is different with Peeters but so is the communications technology. If he doesn't appear in the meantime I don't think we can entirely discount the possibility that RD is choosing not to employ him until the beginning of July, although I accept the situation with his former club is a more likely explanation.
Noted. I would just comment that especially then the FA were run by a bunch of bureaucrats with zero business background. No idea who owns Beveren, but most businesses don't want dead wood around the place, and that is what Peeters is now to them.
Some businesses are vindictive and will hold employees to their notice period on gardening leave. A friend of mine was put on gardening leave and given a list do people they were not allowed to speak to, the only good news was that I was on that list.
In case it all goes t*ts up can I say good luck for the future Bob, RD must be mad letting you go back to Beveren. Charlton through and through. I may not renew the ST I haven't bought in protest. BP 105%.
CL: "Hey, hey Charlton, say something, hey... hey say something, we want you to say something"
[Insert Official Club Statement straight from Director of football club explaining the situation in detail]
CL: "Hey, hey Charlton, that's not what we wanted to hear, say something different, hey... hey say something, say we're going to be in the Premier League, say we're going to buy seven world class strikers (..mumbles about going down)"
Thank you for the official statement to the fans, it is appreciated. Onwards and upwards.
Fail to see how that statement explains anything 'in detail', particularly what is going on now and up until the beginning of the season.
Nor do I see people clamoring for Prem League. Or seven strikers. One would be nice though!
Bit of an inaccurate simplification of the situation to be honest.
Just like this:
"Who's picking the team Bob?"
I don't agree. What you've just said is a perfect example of a fan expecting too much from his club, and not just being grateful for getting something that has previously been bemoaned for its absence.
Fans want clarification on the situation regarding the outgoing/incoming head coach. And that clarification is exactly what we got. Here's our decision, and here's the thought process behind it.
You say it doesn't explain 'what is going on now and up until the beginning of the season'. No, it doesn't. It also doesn't explain why the cookie monster loves cookies so god damn much, but that wasn't really what the statement was about was it.
Which I suggest is precisely why such a clause will be inserted in the contract to prevent any unapproved defection mid season - who is going to wait for a month for a head coach at such a time - and make it bloody awkward even during the close season. It is meant to be a deterrent to someone poaching their head coach.
The 60 odd articles on Waasland Beveren at the time of the initial story indicated they were adamant they had a case for a considerable compensation package in respect of his contract until 2015. Though journalists in contact with Peeters seemed to indicated they were only entitled to compensation for the first 3 months of the remaining contract.
I have never heard of a football manager being put on gardening leave. It strikes me that the short term nature of employment means none would sign such a contract. They would fear being out of the game for a year. And its expensive for the employer, who would effectively pay two salaries, as someone else would need to come in.
Tango man made Steve Bruce go on gardening leave when he was poached by Brum from Palarse
Have not read every post so apologies in advance if this has already been said, but wasnt Curbs put on gardening leave when he refused to extend his contract when he had 12 months left to run.
Getting back to KMs message sounds like she has said what we wanted to hear....My company comes out with all good will statements every year especially around pay rise timesand then does nothing
Have not read every post so apologies in advance if this has already been said, but wasnt Curbs put on gardening leave when he refused to extend his contract when he had 12 months left to run.
No he was effectively sacked but in a nice way, his contract was cancelkled and he was paid compensation.
Have not read every post so apologies in advance if this has already been said, but wasnt Curbs put on gardening leave when he refused to extend his contract when he had 12 months left to run.
No he was effectively sacked but in a nice way, his contract was cancelkled and he was paid compensation.
But during that 12 month period i dont think he was allowed to talk to other clubs regarding being their manager as was srill on the payroll.
Have not read every post so apologies in advance if this has already been said, but wasnt Curbs put on gardening leave when he refused to extend his contract when he had 12 months left to run.
No he was effectively sacked but in a nice way, his contract was cancelkled and he was paid compensation.
But during that 12 month period i dont think he was allowed to talk to other clubs regarding being their manager as was srill on the payroll.
Curbs joined West Ham, replacing Pardew, six months after leaving Charlton.
@chippycafc you maybe getting confused with his departure from West Ham when for legal reasons he was unable to seek further employment until the legal case was resolved.
Don't know if this happened with Curbs but I understand Kenny Jackett was due to be paid a year's salary by the Spanners last year ,but this was in the end paid by Wolves instead as he took over at Molineaux.
Agreed a well thought through and written piece. Very factual and if RD and KM were to read it a lot of good advice for them to get the valley faithful onside.
Agreed a well thought through and written piece. Very factual and if RD and KM were to read it a lot of good advice for them top get the valley faithful onside.
Not sure RD does advice and pretty sure KM does what RD tells her to.
Agreed a well thought through and written piece. Very factual and if RD and KM were to read it a lot of good advice for them top get the valley faithful onside.
Not sure RD does advice and pretty sure KM does what RD tells her to.
A very well written piece and contains ideas we [edit] communicated to the club throughout my time on the supporters Trust board. Communicate with the Trust and fans and let's see if we can galvanise a large number into promoting the club. After a promising start with Duchatelet we have a deafening silence just when the club needs to sell season tickets.
A nice piece of journalism. I have a question though.
I read on another thread that Bob Peeters is not due to join the Club until the 30th June. The speculation was that this is because his previous employer, Waasland-Beveren, have put him on "Gardening Leave" until his notice period runs out.
I don't know whether this is true, but if it were I assume that Peeters would be in breach of his contract with them if he were seen to communicate as the Manager of Charlton Athletic. Technically, he isn't the Manager, yet.
This would explain the lack of communication from him. Just a thought. Be interested in comments.
If that is the case Mundell then it's exactly the type of information that the club should be giving to the fans. It's a far from satisfactory situation and if Big Bob isn't around from first day back training the knives will be out even more. A simple statement would all that needs to be made.
I fI remember rightly when RD took over either himself or his mouthpiece KM noted how much of a community club this was and how they were surprised by the depth of feelings towards the club from the fans.
Therefore, the current silence re the new manager, and the total lack of detail re his ethos, length of contract, start date etc is poor and flies in the face of the new regime's intention to be more open with the fans.
I don't care if she is on holiday. Fans do not stop supporting the club during the close season. There are plenty of minions within the 'network' who could have made some sort of statement, or how about RD himself?
The longer the silence goes on, the more I will think their behaviour is contemptuous and the less faith or trust I will have in them as a board
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Very interesting times ahead
Now lithe almost everything else in this thread and numerous others
It could be bullshit or it could be true only a few really know
It's time for all fans to sit back and watch don't double guess and try to enjoy the summer ahead
All the worry and woe won't change anything nor will it make you feel better
Wait till the season starts it could be another long tough one and you'll need your energy
Now did bob tell me that or did I make it up
Will be dismissed by some, unread, because no former employee can possibly have an opinion without it being an "agenda" or that person being "bitter".
But it's not demonising RD or Anti RD. It actually welcomes his arrival.
It is calling for more and better communication and explains just why it is business critical to do so.
Excellent article.
After a promising start with Duchatelet we have a deafening silence just when the club needs to sell season tickets.
I read on another thread that Bob Peeters is not due to join the Club until the 30th June. The speculation was that this is because his previous employer, Waasland-Beveren, have put him on "Gardening Leave" until his notice period runs out.
I don't know whether this is true, but if it were I assume that Peeters would be in breach of his contract with them if he were seen to communicate as the Manager of Charlton Athletic. Technically, he isn't the Manager, yet.
This would explain the lack of communication from him. Just a thought. Be interested in comments.
Therefore, the current silence re the new manager, and the total lack of detail re his ethos, length of contract, start date etc is poor and flies in the face of the new regime's intention to be more open with the fans.
I don't care if she is on holiday. Fans do not stop supporting the club during the close season. There are plenty of minions within the 'network' who could have made some sort of statement, or how about RD himself?
The longer the silence goes on, the more I will think their behaviour is contemptuous and the less faith or trust I will have in them as a board