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Joe Gomez (ed. ongoing progress)

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Incidentally Tyreece Campbell also went to Forest Hill school.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,778
    It would be somewhat worrying if Liverpool's late bid to secure the signing of Guehi would end up being say £40m plus Gomez. I don't know how "sell ons" work but one would hope that there would be a clause in any such contract that insisted on there being a valuation of Gomez? 
  • jakecafc
    jakecafc Posts: 2,065
    It would be somewhat worrying if Liverpool's late bid to secure the signing of Guehi would end up being say £40m plus Gomez. I don't know how "sell ons" work but one would hope that there would be a clause in any such contract that insisted on there being a valuation of Gomez? 
    They want 70m don't they? So that would mean Gomez' value would be 30m. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,038
    It would be somewhat worrying if Liverpool's late bid to secure the signing of Guehi would end up being say £40m plus Gomez. I don't know how "sell ons" work but one would hope that there would be a clause in any such contract that insisted on there being a valuation of Gomez? 
    I can't see Guehi going anywhere other than Newcastle
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    edited August 2024
    It would be somewhat worrying if Liverpool's late bid to secure the signing of Guehi would end up being say £40m plus Gomez. I don't know how "sell ons" work but one would hope that there would be a clause in any such contract that insisted on there being a valuation of Gomez? 
    If that kind of deal does happen they won’t do it as a player plus cash deal, they will do it as 2 separate deals for FFP reasons 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,263
    Not confirmed anywhere but I believe FM have it as 20%, I expect it's that at a minimum. 

    I also expect him to go for a minimum of £40m, Liverpool don't need to sell and if Cripples Paralysis sell Guehi then they'll be desperate and pushed for time
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    seth plum said:
    Incidentally Tyreece Campbell also went to Forest Hill school.
    So did I!
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    sam3110 said:
    Not confirmed anywhere but I believe FM have it as 20%, I expect it's that at a minimum. 

    I also expect him to go for a minimum of £40m, Liverpool don't need to sell and if Cripples Paralysis sell Guehi then they'll be desperate and pushed for time
    That was an estimate I suggested, unfortunately not an official figure.
  • Scoham said:
    sam3110 said:
    Not confirmed anywhere but I believe FM have it as 20%, I expect it's that at a minimum. 

    I also expect him to go for a minimum of £40m, Liverpool don't need to sell and if Cripples Paralysis sell Guehi then they'll be desperate and pushed for time
    That was an estimate I suggested, unfortunately not an official figure.

    I usually rely on selling that clause to rebuild our squad  :D

    Mind you I may not need to do that this year for the first time in a long time. 
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    sam3110 said:
    Not confirmed anywhere but I believe FM have it as 20%, I expect it's that at a minimum. 

    I also expect him to go for a minimum of £40m, Liverpool don't need to sell and if Cripples Paralysis sell Guehi then they'll be desperate and pushed for time
    Rich Cawley confirmed some time ago it was a minimum 20% of any profit made on Gomez.
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  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    Sky Sports News reporting Palace have agreed a deal with Wolfsburg to sign defender Lacroix.

    Looks like this is the Guehi replacement so highly doubt they’ll be in for Gomez now.
  • Sky Sports News reporting Palace have agreed a deal with Wolfsburg to sign defender Lacroix.

    Looks like this is the Guehi replacement so highly doubt they’ll be in for Gomez now.
    Love this guy on football manager  :D
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,778
    Sky Sports News reporting Palace have agreed a deal with Wolfsburg to sign defender Lacroix.

    Looks like this is the Guehi replacement so highly doubt they’ll be in for Gomez now.
    Do they not need another CB though as they've lost Anderson too?
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Sky Sports News reporting Palace have agreed a deal with Wolfsburg to sign defender Lacroix.

    Looks like this is the Guehi replacement so highly doubt they’ll be in for Gomez now.
    Do they not need another CB though as they've lost Anderson too?
    Did they sign the lad from Benfica in the end? 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,034
    I thought the only reason they agreed to sell Anderson was because they had Araujo??? coming from Benfica. If that deal hasn't happened yet then they're in the shit a bit. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,263
    MarcusH26 said:
    I thought the only reason they agreed to sell Anderson was because they had Araujo??? coming from Benfica. If that deal hasn't happened yet then they're in the shit a bit. 
    I think he went out on loan instead. 

    They signed a younger CB from La Liga in the summer, he played against us in the PSF, Riad? 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,034
    sam3110 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    I thought the only reason they agreed to sell Anderson was because they had Araujo??? coming from Benfica. If that deal hasn't happened yet then they're in the shit a bit. 
    I think he went out on loan instead. 

    They signed a younger CB from La Liga in the summer, he played against us in the PSF, Riad? 

    Yeah I knew they'd signed Riad I just expected them to sign someone with similar experience to Andersen 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,778
    edited August 2024
    sam3110 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    I thought the only reason they agreed to sell Anderson was because they had Araujo??? coming from Benfica. If that deal hasn't happened yet then they're in the shit a bit. 
    I think he went out on loan instead. 

    They signed a younger CB from La Liga in the summer, he played against us in the PSF, Riad? 
    Riad went off with a knee injury after 10 minutes yesterday. The only other CBs they have, apart from Guehi, are Richards, Holding and now Lacroix albeit that Clyne and Ward can play in a back three. Holding, though, has only played one game for them since signing a year ago due to an ongoing ankle injury. 
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Gomez is going to end up staying at Liverpool.
    It's the Charlton luck, he'll stay until he's 32 and then leave on a free.
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  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    Needs to move for his career....don't think Slot fancies him and he needs to play regular football......also we need the money so hurry up Joe and make a decision.....
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    It is highly unlikely that Gomez will leave Liverpool in this window. Matip was not retained and has not been replaced. Furthermore Quansah is currently injured so Gomez is the only back up for Van Dyke and Konate. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    ct_addick said:
    Needs to move for his career....don't think Slot fancies him and he needs to play regular football......also we need the money so hurry up Joe and make a decision.....
    It must be concerning for him that Quansah has overtaken him at CB for Liverpool, while Konsa has overtaken him in the England team. Konsa has been a regular for years now, whereas Gomez has been a utility player. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,778
    I think that had Klopp stayed then Gomez (made 51 appearances for Liverpool last season) would be getting more of a look in although we have to accept that we are only two games into the season. He is seen by Liverpool fans as a bit like Milner. Not necessarily an automatic choice but, as someone who can play in four different positions, a vital member of their squad. And football is more of a squad game than at any time in its history. Just look at how many times when the team is announced we look at how strong our bench is.   
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    ct_addick said:
    Needs to move for his career....don't think Slot fancies him and he needs to play regular football......also we need the money so hurry up Joe and make a decision.....
    It must be concerning for him that Quansah has overtaken him at CB for Liverpool, while Konsa has overtaken him in the England team. Konsa has been a regular for years now, whereas Gomez has been a utility player. 
    especially because, injured or not, Quansah has looked error strewn and way out of his depth.
    Liverpool's lack of cover at CB this last few years has been baffling and cost them over and over again
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    I think that had Klopp stayed then Gomez (made 51 appearances for Liverpool last season) would be getting more of a look in although we have to accept that we are only two games into the season. He is seen by Liverpool fans as a bit like Milner. Not necessarily an automatic choice but, as someone who can play in four different positions, a vital member of their squad. And football is more of a squad game than at any time in its history. Just look at how many times when the team is announced we look at how strong our bench is.   
    If Gomez wants to play regularly for England though, he'll want to be seen as more than just a versatile squad member.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,778
    edited August 2024
    I think that had Klopp stayed then Gomez (made 51 appearances for Liverpool last season) would be getting more of a look in although we have to accept that we are only two games into the season. He is seen by Liverpool fans as a bit like Milner. Not necessarily an automatic choice but, as someone who can play in four different positions, a vital member of their squad. And football is more of a squad game than at any time in its history. Just look at how many times when the team is announced we look at how strong our bench is.   
    If Gomez wants to play regularly for England though, he'll want to be seen as more than just a versatile squad member.
    It's all about perception and a versatile replacement is clearly how Southgate saw Gomez too. In the last 7 seasons Gomez has made 209 appearances whereas Stones has 216 games by comparison. So the number of games isn't the issue, it is the perception that Stones is a better player in that one position. As Walker would be seen at RB. Or Shaw at LB. Whether a move will actually change that all depends whether his new team is prepared to play him as a CB only and they might not want to do that. I'm not sure that he can demand that either, in which case he might just as well stay where he is unless it becomes obvious that Slot doesn't fancy him at all. Gomez strength overdone, his ability to play in so many positions, has, ironically, been his undoing.   
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,135
    PopIcon said:
    Gomez is going to end up staying at Liverpool.
    It's the Charlton luck, he'll stay until he's 32 and then leave on a free.
    We are going to end up like Walsall supporters who, from around 2012 onwards, waited anxiously in vain each transfer window for Troy Deeney to be sold in order to trigger their 20% sell-on.
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    Guehi is now staying at Palace according to BBC Sport. Would also assume this ends any chance of Gomez going to Palace but wonder if Newcastle might now try to get Gomez instead?