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Joe Gomez (ed. ongoing progress)

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  • Guehi is now staying at Palace according to BBC Sport. Would also assume this ends any chance of Gomez going to Palace but wonder if Newcastle might now try to get Gomez instead?
  • Guehi is now staying at Palace according to BBC Sport. Would also assume this ends any chance of Gomez going to Palace but wonder if Newcastle might now try to get Gomez instead?
    Think Newcastle are going with what they have 
  • We'll see soon enough
  • I reckon Newcastle have dodged a bullet there. I don't think that Guehi is that good and £70m is ridiculous.
  • They certainly won't get £70m for him after this window, with only three more windows before his contract runs out unless, of course, they get him to sign a new one. Here's hoping he refuses to do so!
  • Every time we get close to Gomez leaving and money coming our way, it never seems to happen.
    That’s for sure. 🥺
  • seth plum said:
    Incidentally Tyreece Campbell also went to Forest Hill school.
    So did I. Mainly Palace fans in my day. A few spanners and the odd Charlton freak like me.
  • I reckon Newcastle have dodged a bullet there. I don't think that Guehi is that good and £70m is ridiculous.

    Palace didn't want to lose their current England International CB so put a high price tag on him.
    Guéhi is a modest, quiet lad* and would've been like a fish out of water in the freezing North East with the one city club.
    Good business by Steve Parish yet again to put off the Saudi Arabian club.

    Doesn't matter that League 1 Charlton fans hate the Surrey club as they operate in a different universe.

    *Reminds me of Richard Rufus when we were in the Premier and just does his job. Hopefully won't become a  financial advisor 😱
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  • Longest serving player at Liverpool, hard to believe it’s been nearly a decade!
  • I was selfishly hoping he wouldn't play before Jan and then force through a move.  
  • we're never gonna get that windfall are we...
    Ignoring any potential financial gain (which we would probably waste anyway on a Kirk or someone of that ilk), as much as some people might suggest that Gomez could have achieved so much more had he moved on, the only real argument for doing so is for England recognition. However, given the modern squad game that it is, one only has to look at Maguire and Stones to recognise that you can still be picked for England even if you aren't a regular starter providing that international manager likes you - Maguire and Stones made 26 and 33 starts respectively in total in the two previous seasons whereas Gomez made 32. It's just that he wasn't fancied as much by Southgate as the other two were and he was also probably a victim of the very thing that makes him such a good player - his versatility.

    Should Gomez remain for the rest of his career at Liverpool and assuming he stays injury free (and that has been a massive issue, as much so to his confidence, but it shows his worth to Liverpool that they stuck with him despite those), he will probably end up with 350 and possibly even 400 plus appearances for Liverpool, have become a multi-millionaire, played for more than a decade at the top and won countless medals but, most of all, he has the recognition from his managers, fellow players and fans of his contribution, over time, to the cause.

    How many of our graduates have ever achieved all of the above over that period of time? Bonds made more appearances in top flight football but not for a top side and didn't play for England. Parker will have more appearances too and there is an argument given his PL Player of the Year achievements but how many medals has he got and Gomez will almost certainly have more caps. Konsa has less caps and unless he moves is unlikely to have PL and CL winners' medals. Whatever people say about Defoe, leaving at 16 and not playing a single first team game for us, does make the link more tenuous and how many medals did he win anyway? Is there anyone? 

    Fans are a fickle bunch and if he ever has a nightmare of a match any time soon, then you can be sure that Liverpool fans will be the first to react accordingly. This, however, was a few of theirs post Saturday's match. Hope he receives many more in years to come but, preferably, following games in an England shirt:

    "He was nothing short of immense out there, I feared the worst at HT when I saw Ibou couldn't continue but oh my. Hats off to him."

    "Proper player. Stood up and walked into the fire. We have 'defenders' that could learn a F**k ton from Joey"

    "Brilliant from Joe. Since his return from injury that’s all we’ve been missing from him, a boss performance at centre back."

    "Watched the highlights and it’s a shame he never scored that header.. had that gone in I’m sure the whole of Anfield would have erupted in joy for  Joe…& it would have the lad wonders…"

    "Joe saved us last night. I dare not think he could ever perform at this level again as a CB, this is similar to a short period he perform to top level couple of years ago. Hopefully this keep continue."

    "Always makes me giggle when people are surprised when a quality player plays well"

    "Only played half a game but what a half a game it was. Earned my MOTM."

    "Joe Gomez - £3.5m. Harry Maguire - £80m. It's frightening."


  • edited November 5
    Konate back immediately and Gomez returns to unused substitute.  Liverpool look very good under Slot but football is a short career and I hope Gomez moves somewhere he is appreciated more.  He is a top player and shouldn't be sat bench warming.

    I also think he is massively underrated by Liverpool fans after 10 years at the club, comments above like the one I have copied below just feel a bit wonky to me.. the sort of comment you write about a kid just starting out who surprises you with a good initial impression.

    "He was nothing short of immense out there, I feared the worst at HT when I saw Ibou couldn't continue but oh my. Hats off to him."
  • Konate back immediately and Gomez returns to unused substitute.  Liverpool look very good under Slot but football is a short career and I hope Gomez moves somewhere he is appreciated more.  He is a top player and shouldn't be sat bench warming.

    I also think he is massively underrated by Liverpool fans after 10 years at the club, comments above like the one I have copied below just feel a bit wonky to me.. the sort of comment you write about a kid just starting out who surprises you with a good initial impression.

    "He was nothing short of immense out there, I feared the worst at HT when I saw Ibou couldn't continue but oh my. Hats off to him."
    Not sure I agree with that. Most Liverpool fans see him as a great player who was unlucky with injuries. If he'd stayed fit since 2018 then Konate probably isn't at the club. Konate is preferred by Slot because he has a bit more pace and presence. I think most Liverpool fans are aware he'd start for most other PL clubs
  • i wonder if Joe's bemch warming is due to his vesitality in he can play defence and midfield, but not goalscoring! A very handy sub to have available, maybe too handy which is why he is not risked in a starting lineup???
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  • As a centre back he has always been held back by his height, or lack of it.
  • As a centre back he has always been held back by his height, or lack of it.
    6 ft 2 according to most sources when Googling it.
  • Konate back immediately and Gomez returns to unused substitute.  Liverpool look very good under Slot but football is a short career and I hope Gomez moves somewhere he is appreciated more.  He is a top player and shouldn't be sat bench warming.

    I also think he is massively underrated by Liverpool fans after 10 years at the club, comments above like the one I have copied below just feel a bit wonky to me.. the sort of comment you write about a kid just starting out who surprises you with a good initial impression.

    "He was nothing short of immense out there, I feared the worst at HT when I saw Ibou couldn't continue but oh my. Hats off to him."
    I've mentioned above why I think Gomez is happy at Liverpool and why it doesn't make any sense for him to move principally because where else is he going to be playing a role in a potential Premier League and Champions League team? As I've said, he started as many games in the last two seasons in the PL as both England CBs, Maguire and Stones.

    The season is going to be a very long one and let's not forget that Slot started with Quansah but substituted him at half time in that very first match for Konate. Quansah has not played a minute in the PL since, started a couple of games in the League Cup (scored an OG against West Ham) and came on for two minutes tonight with the score on 3-0. Gomez remained on the bench and that suggests to me that he is being saved to return in some form on Saturday in a big game against Villa. The game has changed in the last few decades and it really is all about the squad now. Look at what Wilson did for Fulham last night coming off the bench. 

    When all is said and done, everything comes down to whether a player is, as I've said, happy. He is Liverpool's longest serving player and they looked after him post injuries and didn't look to off load him. That means a lot to a player and it's one of the reasons he doesn't want to leave as are the non-existent chances that the grass is going to be much greener elsewhere. As for fans, that one you quoted doesn't trump all the other references from Liverpool fans. 

    This is what was written post Saturday and a quote from him too:

    "His performance was so good that it led the home fans to show their love for him by chanting his name after the full-time whistle. When asked how it felt to hear his name being sung from the stands he said "It’s always special. Obviously this is home for me and the club means everything to me.

    That's a club he has been at for almost a decade. How many PL players are currently in that position? Only the most valued and content ones. 



  • As a centre back he has always been held back by his height, or lack of it.
    He has been held back by 3 serious injuries . Still having a good career but needs to leave that place now . 
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