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Joe Gomez (ed. ongoing progress)
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I might be wrong but didn’t douchbag make it that at standard liege that any sell on percentage went to him even when he didn’t own the club anymore. I believe there was two players this happened too with one being mangala to city. I wonder if we do have any sell on fee if it will go straight into his pocket….0
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It's difficult isnt it ? I agree in principle with what you are saying but it all depends on the player, joe Gomez may be set for life but lets say for example he is now sitting on £10,000,000 after ten years of playing football and he gets an offer that will double or triple that figure for only 2 or 3 seasons, i can massively understand the temptation. As said i hope he doesnt tbh but i would rule it out.Addick Addict said:
But he hasn't won everything FOR England. I'm not sure that he is the type of man who is driven by money alone and IF he becomes a meaningful part of the Euros squad and can see a way forward so far as international recognition is concerned especially with a WC in two years time. Saudi is "out of sight, out of mind" territory and was a nightmare so far as the likes of Henderson are concerned. To me, especially if a player is at a top club already in the PL, it is where they go to end their career once they're into their 30s not someone who hit 27 last week.Athletico Charlton said:I guess that for us, him going to Saudi would be amazing financially but I hope he doesn't as he is too young to waste years there. He has won everything in England though so you never know.
Though wouldnt be surprised if he goes somewhere like Bayern, he gets raved about one week by Liverpool fans then scapegoated the next.0 -
Cawley confirmed we still had sell on clauses around the time TS bought the club. Even if they no longer exist it does suggest RD and ESI didn’t sell them at an earlier point in time, so I’d be surprised if anyone but the club would get the money.Red_Chester said:I might be wrong but didn’t douchbag make it that at standard liege that any sell on percentage went to him even when he didn’t own the club anymore. I believe there was two players this happened too with one being mangala to city. I wonder if we do have any sell on fee if it will go straight into his pocket….0 -
Joe Gomez is loving his time at Liverpool. He won't move unless Liverpool want to sell but who knows what Arne Slot thinks yet. I also think the chance of him going to Saudi is zero.2
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Liverpool fan on twitter was telling me recently that he believed that the sell on expired at the end of his first contract, told him that was rubbish but he claimed it was well known0
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It's an agreement between the clubs themselves and has nothing to do with his contract. Only way out of it is by cashing it in, which we haven't done, or he leaves Liverpool on a free. If they were super cheeky they could run his contract down, let him become a free agent then on the 1st July re-sign him, but for the sake of a couple of million quid there's no point in taking that riskbuckshee said:Liverpool fan on twitter was telling me recently that he believed that the sell on expired at the end of his first contract, told him that was rubbish but he claimed it was well known0 -
Yeah definitely rubbish... Why would a Sell On Clause be in a players Contractbuckshee said:Liverpool fan on twitter was telling me recently that he believed that the sell on expired at the end of his first contract, told him that was rubbish but he claimed it was well known
The Sell On Clause is part of the Agreement when buying the player from one club to another
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Can someone Photoshop a picture of Joe burning a Liverpool shirt , to force him out quickly, thanks.1
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If it worked like that clubs would sign players then give them a new contract for an extra couple of quid almost straight away.buckshee said:Liverpool fan on twitter was telling me recently that he believed that the sell on expired at the end of his first contract, told him that was rubbish but he claimed it was well known2 -
Ah fair enough, just concerned he did that with our players tooScoham said:
Cawley confirmed we still had sell on clauses around the time TS bought the club. Even if they no longer exist it does suggest RD and ESI didn’t sell them at an earlier point in time, so I’d be surprised if anyone but the club would get the money.Red_Chester said:I might be wrong but didn’t douchbag make it that at standard liege that any sell on percentage went to him even when he didn’t own the club anymore. I believe there was two players this happened too with one being mangala to city. I wonder if we do have any sell on fee if it will go straight into his pocket….0 - Sponsored links:
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https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/joe-gomez-faces-liverpool-exit-29649069According to this article, a £45m transfer to Newcastle has collapsed but plenty of other clubs remain interested.3
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What's our sell on fee? 20%? A nice £9m could do us good!Callumcafc said:https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/joe-gomez-faces-liverpool-exit-29649069According to this article, a £45m transfer to Newcastle has collapsed but plenty of other clubs remain interested.1 -
'Enjoy your bitches and Range Rovers, the Gomez sell on is mine.'8 -
Being linked with a move. Good news for us is Cawley believes the sell on is still in place.
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it will most likely be a %age of Liverpool's profit rather than the reported fee
if they eventually paid £3.5m to Charlton and end up selling him on for £35M
Charlton's sell on would be based on £31.5M. The timing of the sell on also dependent on the schedule of the payments to Liverpool. These fees are often over a few years
Still a tidy sum but not as high as some begin to imagine nor in one lump sum.
The oft repeated gripe about douchebag or the self serving pricks that succeeded him, arranging to keep any sell on fees for themselves are way wide of the mark. Much as we have reason to dislike and mistrust that retinue of reprobates, there's no evidence it happened and there's very little practical likelihood it even could.
Any fee due to CAFC, was only ever payable to CAFC.
If an owner or director redirected that to himself that's theft. Any of that on any scale would have showed up when Skintgaard or the new lot did their due diligence.
Charlton's offices have leaked like sieves throughout and bad news always travels fast.
To legitimately pay themselves out of the proceeds, the payment would have to be a bonus i.e. taxable wages, which would show up or it could be a dividend on their shares but dividends are only possible of a company is solvent and making money which was never the case. I'm not saying nobody got overpaid or took the piss on the expenses but that's way different from misdirecting fees receivable.
Douchebag might have utilised the cashflow to keep his funding exposure to a minimum but that would only be part of the balance of money he ended up losing in his panto football project. CAFC has been losing money hand over fist for decades, all of which has been funded by whichever optimist has been at the tiller at the time.1 -
No reflection on Joe but he’s not a Charlton player and if he leaves Liverpool then I want it to be for the most amount of money as possible. If that’s Saudi then so be it. I really don’t care if that injures his England career. Not our problem. I want what’s best for CAFC and that in this situation is money. Having said that I wish him nothing but success wherever he goes.12
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Unless it’s to Palace…ShootersHillGuru said:No reflection on Joe but he’s not a Charlton player and if he leaves Liverpool then I want it to be for the most amount of money as possible. If that’s Saudi then so be it. I really don’t care if that injures his England career. Not our problem. I want what’s best for CAFC and that in this situation is money. Having said that I wish him nothing but success wherever he goes.6 -
mart77 said:
Unless it’s to Palace…ShootersHillGuru said:No reflection on Joe but he’s not a Charlton player and if he leaves Liverpool then I want it to be for the most amount of money as possible. If that’s Saudi then so be it. I really don’t care if that injures his England career. Not our problem. I want what’s best for CAFC and that in this situation is money. Having said that I wish him nothing but success wherever he goes.
Or Bromley.5 -
I'd be amazed if he went to Palace can't see them spending big money on anyone when they're trying to raise funds for the new main stand.mart77 said:
Unless it’s to Palace…ShootersHillGuru said:No reflection on Joe but he’s not a Charlton player and if he leaves Liverpool then I want it to be for the most amount of money as possible. If that’s Saudi then so be it. I really don’t care if that injures his England career. Not our problem. I want what’s best for CAFC and that in this situation is money. Having said that I wish him nothing but success wherever he goes.0 -
Sincerely hope not but their priority is not the stand but retaining their Premiership status. Lose that and all bets are off. Relegation could mean their stand never gets built.MartinCAFC said:
I'd be amazed if he went to Palace can't see them spending big money on anyone when they're trying to raise funds for the new main stand.mart77 said:
Unless it’s to Palace…ShootersHillGuru said:No reflection on Joe but he’s not a Charlton player and if he leaves Liverpool then I want it to be for the most amount of money as possible. If that’s Saudi then so be it. I really don’t care if that injures his England career. Not our problem. I want what’s best for CAFC and that in this situation is money. Having said that I wish him nothing but success wherever he goes.0 - Sponsored links:
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Think he’d do well at Villa for what it’s worth (nothing)0
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They’re not going down. They’re depressingly a really good team with a fantastic manager. Agree that Gomez doesn’t fit their mould. They like making money on players and he won’t be worth more on his next sale.ShootersHillGuru said:
Sincerely hope not but their priority is not the stand but retaining their Premiership status. Lose that and all bets are off. Relegation could mean their stand never gets built.MartinCAFC said:
I'd be amazed if he went to Palace can't see them spending big money on anyone when they're trying to raise funds for the new main stand.mart77 said:
Unless it’s to Palace…ShootersHillGuru said:No reflection on Joe but he’s not a Charlton player and if he leaves Liverpool then I want it to be for the most amount of money as possible. If that’s Saudi then so be it. I really don’t care if that injures his England career. Not our problem. I want what’s best for CAFC and that in this situation is money. Having said that I wish him nothing but success wherever he goes.1 -
I agree but that’s not my point in replying to Martin.RC_CAFC said:
They’re not going down. They’re depressingly a really good team with a fantastic manager. Agree that Gomez doesn’t fit their mould. They like making money on players and he won’t be worth more on his next sale.ShootersHillGuru said:
Sincerely hope not but their priority is not the stand but retaining their Premiership status. Lose that and all bets are off. Relegation could mean their stand never gets built.MartinCAFC said:
I'd be amazed if he went to Palace can't see them spending big money on anyone when they're trying to raise funds for the new main stand.mart77 said:
Unless it’s to Palace…ShootersHillGuru said:No reflection on Joe but he’s not a Charlton player and if he leaves Liverpool then I want it to be for the most amount of money as possible. If that’s Saudi then so be it. I really don’t care if that injures his England career. Not our problem. I want what’s best for CAFC and that in this situation is money. Having said that I wish him nothing but success wherever he goes.0 -
RC_CAFC said:
They’re not going down. They’re depressingly a really good team with a fantastic manager. Agree that Gomez doesn’t fit their mould. They like making money on players and he won’t be worth more on his next sale.ShootersHillGuru said:
Sincerely hope not but their priority is not the stand but retaining their Premiership status. Lose that and all bets are off. Relegation could mean their stand never gets built.MartinCAFC said:
I'd be amazed if he went to Palace can't see them spending big money on anyone when they're trying to raise funds for the new main stand.mart77 said:
Unless it’s to Palace…ShootersHillGuru said:No reflection on Joe but he’s not a Charlton player and if he leaves Liverpool then I want it to be for the most amount of money as possible. If that’s Saudi then so be it. I really don’t care if that injures his England career. Not our problem. I want what’s best for CAFC and that in this situation is money. Having said that I wish him nothing but success wherever he goes.
Agreed, they (and the likes of Brighton and Brentford) aren't going to make a club record signing on a established "peak value" Premier League player. They'd rather buy 2 or 3 "hidden gems" from overseas or the Championship.0 -
Newcastle would be a good move for him.
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Rumours swirling that perhaps Newcastle are moving on from spending 70+ for Guehi and going after Gomez for 40-50 instead…The Red Robin said:Newcastle would be a good move for him.
Sounds like Fulham are signing Palace’s other centre back so I’d be shocked if they let Guehi go as well. Opens the door nicely for Newcastle to swoop in for Joe.4 -
30m for Andersen is a great deal for Fulham in todays market.Callumcafc said:
Rumours swirling that perhaps Newcastle are moving on from spending 70+ for Guehi and going after Gomez for 40-50 instead…The Red Robin said:Newcastle would be a good move for him.
Sounds like Fulham are signing Palace’s other centre back so I’d be shocked if they let Guehi go as well. Opens the door nicely for Newcastle to swoop in for Joe.
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Strange one that, both why Palace would sell for 30m and why he would move to Fulham. Maybe he really enjoyed his loan spell there.0
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Anderson is 28 and has less than two years left on his contract. He's also one of the highest paid players in the Palace squad so, with the cost of the new stand to consider, perhaps Palace are trying to get what they perceive to be the best price for him now. Anderson isn't going to be moving to Fulham for less money so unless Palace are prepared to offer him an increased contract to match that and take him through to 32, which he probably wants from the perspective of long term security, then it probably suits all sides. Especially if they can get a younger replacement for a smaller transfer fee and less wages.killerandflash said:Strange one that, both why Palace would sell for 30m and why he would move to Fulham. Maybe he really enjoyed his loan spell there.
It's still a big gamble to sell their best two CBs in Guehi and Anderson but let's hope that it's one that fails miserably!2 -
Can we factor a sell on fee? I vaguely recall we may have done that with the D. Bent transfer fee and thus received a high % of the transfer fee upfront from the factor rather than having to wait for all of it over a period of scheduled payments.Billy_Mix said:it will most likely be a %age of Liverpool's profit rather than the reported fee
if they eventually paid £3.5m to Charlton and end up selling him on for £35M
Charlton's sell on would be based on £31.5M. The timing of the sell on also dependent on the schedule of the payments to Liverpool. These fees are often over a few years
Still a tidy sum but not as high as some begin to imagine nor in one lump sum.
The oft repeated gripe about douchebag or the self serving pricks that succeeded him, arranging to keep any sell on fees for themselves are way wide of the mark. Much as we have reason to dislike and mistrust that retinue of reprobates, there's no evidence it happened and there's very little practical likelihood it even could.
Any fee due to CAFC, was only ever payable to CAFC.
If an owner or director redirected that to himself that's theft. Any of that on any scale would have showed up when Skintgaard or the new lot did their due diligence.
Charlton's offices have leaked like sieves throughout and bad news always travels fast.
To legitimately pay themselves out of the proceeds, the payment would have to be a bonus i.e. taxable wages, which would show up or it could be a dividend on their shares but dividends are only possible of a company is solvent and making money which was never the case. I'm not saying nobody got overpaid or took the piss on the expenses but that's way different from misdirecting fees receivable.
Douchebag might have utilised the cashflow to keep his funding exposure to a minimum but that would only be part of the balance of money he ended up losing in his panto football project. CAFC has been losing money hand over fist for decades, all of which has been funded by whichever optimist has been at the tiller at the time.0
