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Catering at the Valley

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  • Surprised we don’t have greenwich meantime beers.
  • I was on the £6.10 a pint Heineken. Tasted ok but I wish they would give you a full pint without having to ask them each time to fill it to the top! £6.10 I want a pint!!!
  • SamB09 said:
    Surprised we don’t have greenwich meantime beers.
    This is how rumours start, but if the bit above about getting Peroni is correct, then you also get Meantime, as all part of the portfolio of Asahi UK...
  • SamB09 said:
    Surprised we don’t have greenwich meantime beers.
    I’m surprised there was never a push for this when they were located in Charlton. They are now huge and probably don’t get on their radar. 
    Football has always had crap beers until recently but at least some clubs do now serve better. 
    I wonder if a better product would sell more, be more profitable. That appears to work with most other goods in the world. All the time we except and buy tasteless overpriced fizz, that’s all we will be offered. 
    I’d always buy a pint of anything Meantime over a pint of Fosters and such like even if if was a £1.50 more. 
  • edited July 2022
    Vincenzo said:
    Vincenzo said:
    That has to be the worst beer line up imaginable.
    But probably the most logistically and commercially viable for the catering company (Mitie?).

    All from one supplier (Heineken UK) under one supply contract with "safe" brands that customers recognise, and contracted across multiple sites that they operate. Mass catering has its compromises. 

    Even if they were willing to consider a more "attractive" portfolio of brands, it would be the case that any marginal gains in consumer sentiment and revenue would be far outweighed by logistical complexity and supply cost.

    But I tend to agree, not the best...
    I’m sure you’re right about the commercial viability, but it seems strange that clubs who are much bigger than us, like Tottenham, can offer good beer and so can clubs much smaller than us, like Dulwich Hamlet. 

    We are in the midst of the biggest local brewing boom for centuries in London, yet we bring in slop from Australia, Denmark and Yorkshire.

    I guess it’s just easier to get it all from one company, especially if you don't care what you serve your customers as long as they pay.
    Spurs’ official beer partner, Heineken, will take centre stage at the new ground. Fans can enjoy many favourites, including Heineken®, Amstel, Strongbow and Old Mout Cider craft beer from Beavertown throughout Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. Draught beer on matchday will be poured using an innovative, bottom-up ‘fast pour’ system for improved hygiene.


    So Spurs actually have the same beer as Charlton (or at least variations from Heineken UK) with the exception of a brew from Beavertown which is actually brewed in the stadium. When you have scale (which from a catering point of view Charlton don't in terms of both numbers and venue capacity) then you are able to add in a few extras and make it viable.

    Dulwich Hamlet are at the other end of the spectrum, small enough (and unique enough) to do things differently. 

    I think we are stuck in the mass market middle.

    Of course, a different mass market supplier would give a different (and better) portfolio. Asahi UK could be good...

    https://www.asahibeer.co.uk/our-brands


  • Macronate said:
    Don’t think there’s much chance of the Henri Favre 🍾 being necked at Charlton home games.
    Ahhh…..Henri Favre.

    It greets the nostrils like an old friend……I say a cautious hello to its hidden personality.🙄
  • Macronate said:
    Don’t think there’s much chance of the Henri Favre 🍾 being necked at Charlton home games.
    Ahhh…..Henri Favre.

    It greets the nostrils like an old friend……I say a cautious hello to its hidden personality.🙄
    I think you're supposed to drink it, not snort it!
  • Off_it said:
    Macronate said:
    Don’t think there’s much chance of the Henri Favre 🍾 being necked at Charlton home games.
    Ahhh…..Henri Favre.

    It greets the nostrils like an old friend……I say a cautious hello to its hidden personality.🙄
    I think you're supposed to drink it, not snort it!
    Heathen.
  • Vincenzo said:
    That has to be the worst beer line up imaginable.
    I'd be well happy with Heineken or Morretti!
  • What’s so special about Peroni? 🤦‍♂️
    It's gorgeous!
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  • Ferryman said:
    Vincenzo said:
    That has to be the worst beer line up imaginable.
    I'd be well happy with Heineken or Morretti!
    Agreed .

    I’m a shit drinker and probably the lowest form of connoisseur out there but Greenwich meantime I always thought was shit and a bit of en emperor’s new clothes cos it had a funky name ..

  • ROTW said:
    Not sure why anyone would want to buy food at the ground with the exception of The Upbeats.

    It is poor quality, expensive and served by brain dead morons.

    If people stop buying it the club may wake up and take notice

    I have had decent sausage at Scunthorpe 


    Hmmm
    ROTW said:
    Not sure why anyone would want to buy food at the ground with the exception of The Upbeats.

    It is poor quality, expensive and served by brain dead morons.

    If people stop buying it the club may wake up and take notice

    I have had decent sausage at Scunthorpe 


    Hmmm
    He has it stacked with mayo as well.
  • Scoham said:
    What’s so special about Peroni? 🤦‍♂️
    It’s not Fosters?
    Neither is my own piss
  • edited July 2022
    Blucher said:
    It's not necessarily practical on all the concourses, although we did have the late, lamented East Stand Real Ale Bar, but it would be great to get some really good beer in the North Stand Fans Bar (and in Bartram's for that matter). Credit where it's due, the club have made an effort and usually get a barrel of something like Deuchers in from the Caledonian Brewery, but I wondered if some deal could be struck with The River Ale House. 

    It is the 2022 South East London CAMRA Pub of the Year (and the Cider Pub of The Year), is located very nearby on the Woolwich Road and the owner, Trevor, is a Charlton supporter, who I know would be interested in some sort of arrangement. They really do source some cracking local beers.
    I don't think the club has made an effort. Deuchers is a Heineken UK brand... so the same source as all other beers in the ground...
  • edited July 2022
    Blucher said:
    It's not necessarily practical on all the concourses, although we did have the late, lamented East Stand Real Ale Bar, but it would be great to get some really good beer in the North Stand Fans Bar (and in Bartram's for that matter). Credit where it's due, the club have made an effort and usually get a barrel of something like Deuchers in from the Caledonian Brewery, but I wondered if some deal could be struck with The River Ale House. 

    It is the 2022 South East London CAMRA Pub of the Year (and the Cider Pub of The Year), is located very nearby on the Woolwich Road and the owner, Trevor, is a Charlton supporter, who I know would be interested in some sort of arrangement. They really do source some cracking local beers.
    The catering company will likely have a high value national supply deal with Heineken UK to service all of the sites that they operate, of which The Valley is likely to be just one.

    The supply side will be linked to the technical delivery of the beer (e.g. pumps, lines, gas, founts, glasses etc.) and that will all be commercially and contractually tied up, probably on the basis of exclusivity, for a given period of time.

    As much as it would be a lovely thing to happen, they are unlikely to do a deal with Trevor, even if he was prepared for the significant legal, technical and financial commitment that would be required.

  • Ferryman said:
    Vincenzo said:
    That has to be the worst beer line up imaginable.
    I'd be well happy with Heineken or Morretti!
    Agreed .

    I’m a shit drinker and probably the lowest form of connoisseur out there but Greenwich meantime I always thought was shit and a bit of en emperor’s new clothes cos it had a funky name ..

    I don't like Greenwich Meantime either, nor that craft Lager they sell at Lord's.
    Generally, I dislike craft lager.
  • Ferryman said:
    Vincenzo said:
    That has to be the worst beer line up imaginable.
    I'd be well happy with Heineken or Morretti!
    Agreed .

    I’m a shit drinker and probably the lowest form of connoisseur out there but Greenwich meantime I always thought was shit and a bit of en emperor’s new clothes cos it had a funky name ..

    You may well be correct about not being a connoisseur but at least it would be locally brewed shit. 
  • Blucher said:
    It's not necessarily practical on all the concourses, although we did have the late, lamented East Stand Real Ale Bar, but it would be great to get some really good beer in the North Stand Fans Bar (and in Bartram's for that matter). Credit where it's due, the club have made an effort and usually get a barrel of something like Deuchers in from the Caledonian Brewery, but I wondered if some deal could be struck with The River Ale House. 

    It is the 2022 South East London CAMRA Pub of the Year (and the Cider Pub of The Year), is located very nearby on the Woolwich Road and the owner, Trevor, is a Charlton supporter, who I know would be interested in some sort of arrangement. They really do source some cracking local beers.
    What I didn't understand was why they went from the temporary kiosk selling real ale from a polypin, to a proper kiosk serving TWO real ales (Deuchars and "Addicks") to nothing. rather than cutting back to one ale or selling something from a polypin again.
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  • I thought in Italy that Peroni was considered like how we consider fosters 
  • edited July 2022
    Scoham said:
    What’s so special about Peroni? 🤦‍♂️
    It’s not Fosters?
    Fosters isn't a beer.
    Like it or not, it is, and it's the second or third best selling beer in the UK in value terms dependent on source.
  • MrOneLung said:
    I thought in Italy that Peroni was considered like how we consider fosters 
    Maybe, but out there the large bottles are 50c each, even in a restaurant - which doesn't leave much room for complaint.
  • Peroni red and peroni grand reserva are delicious.

    I'm not much of a lager drinker but Peroni is one I like
  • Ferryman said:
    Vincenzo said:
    That has to be the worst beer line up imaginable.
    I'd be well happy with Heineken or Morretti!
    Agreed .

    I’m a shit drinker and probably the lowest form of connoisseur out there but Greenwich meantime I always thought was shit and a bit of en emperor’s new clothes cos it had a funky name ..

    I don't like Greenwich Meantime either, nor that craft Lager they sell at Lord's.
    Generally, I dislike craft lager.
    Too much flavour? 

    ;)
  • edited July 2022
    MrOneLung said:
    I thought in Italy that Peroni was considered like how we consider fosters 
    Not so, but Peroni in Italy is different to what we get. More like Morretti. They also do special red label and IPA beers  which are pretty good.
  • Bring in Erdinger on draft…….now you’re talking. 🥳
  • Apparently DOWN THE DEN they are charging 6.20 for a pint of carlsburg. 
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