I'm astonished by the indepth knowledge and understanding of the atmosphere in the dressing room, the confidence or lack of it in BP among the players and the character and psychology of RD that has been revealed on this thread. Considering that 99.987% of us sit there pressing F5 every time there is a twatter rumour going around for the very reason that we have not a f****ng clue, I have to say I am impressed by the sudden access of insight.
The only thing that makes me wonder if there is anything in it (no smoke without fire and all that) is that I would have expected the Tony Watt announcement to have been made by now. Now if there is likely to be a manager change (Luzon or A.N.O.) then that might be a reason to delay?
The only thing that makes me wonder if there is anything in it (no smoke without fire and all that) is that I would have expected the Tony Watt announcement to have been made by now. Now if there is likely to be a manager change (Luzon or A.N.O.) then that might be a reason to delay?
have to agree, and its possible therefore that one part of this false rumour is true.. then again there are always last minute glitches.
The only thing that makes me wonder if there is anything in it (no smoke without fire and all that) is that I would have expected the Tony Watt announcement to have been made by now. Now if there is likely to be a manager change (Luzon or A.N.O.) then that might be a reason to delay?
I'm not convinced the manager be it Peeters or anyone else would have a say in whether Watt joins or not!
The only thing that makes me wonder if there is anything in it (no smoke without fire and all that) is that I would have expected the Tony Watt announcement to have been made by now. Now if there is likely to be a manager change (Luzon or A.N.O.) then that might be a reason to delay?
I'm not convinced the manager be it Peeters or anyone else would have a say in whether Watt joins or not!
The only thing that makes me wonder if there is anything in it (no smoke without fire and all that) is that I would have expected the Tony Watt announcement to have been made by now. Now if there is likely to be a manager change (Luzon or A.N.O.) then that might be a reason to delay?
I'm not convinced the manager be it Peeters or anyone else would have a say in whether Watt joins or not!
titled changed, due mainly for concern for Prague's blood pressure, and on behalf of the Jewish Press Association, we would like to apologise for any unnecessary distress to Bob Peeters (the human being)
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But is it a false rumour? What evidence do we have that it's false. Has it been retracted? Has it been denied by the club? Is there concrete evidence that would contradict it? As far I can tell the answers to those three questions are no, no and no. So we no more know that this is a false rumour than a true rumour. Unsubstantiated? Yes. Unproven? Yes. Unlikely? Probably. False? Not yet.
As @ShootersHillGuru posted, a lot has been delivered within the first 12 months of ownership so why would anyone think progress will stop now?!
Some throw their toys out of the pram demanding sight of business plans and the like... One particular individual likes to question the competence of the board and executives at every available opportunity. Even after 12 months of improvement on and off the field they can't possibly know what they're doing!
The quote above suggests continuous improvement and non stop change - year after year after year. It suggests to me that we need only limp through to the summer and there will then be another uplift in the squad, another step change.
As regards Peeters there are only two possible outcomes this window - he is backed or he is sacked. Therefore I will go to the Brighton game expecting to watch a mid-table game but in the full knowledge that Peeters needs to deliver a performance and a result.
I know of no other club where a minority celebrate failure as much as with us! Wallowing in martyrdom and victimhood. The reality is that we have players coming back into contention and Peeters needs to show he can coach a team in the same way he did in August and September. For sure he's under pressure but he needs to utilise that pressure to galvanise the squad.
If he can't, week after week then he is not much use to CAFC I'm afraid. But if he can turn it around, secure a win then we can look forward to the Watford game. So rather than worry about his fate (which none of us can influence) why not go and enjoy the game on Saturday knowing that a win will get this monkey off our back... Even if it does reignite the dreaded hope of a play-off place!
You know what - I'd much rather the pressure was on the head coach and not on the whole club finances because the board were skint and the previous managers had burnt all the spare cash! What the critics fail to recognise is that not only did we land and finance the signings of Vetokele, Gudmundsson, Bikey and Ben Haim last summer but that it is entirely plausible that the exercise is repeated next summer.
For sure a few network players will come and go but this really isn't the main headline to date. No, the squad is the youngest in the division and mostly on long term deals. Those not in favour are shipped out and there is a proven scouting system which can easily fill the gaps by the time we kick off in August.
It's continuous improvement alright, which is why the club spent £500k restructuring the management team last summer. I look forwards to the second year of this new era, starting Saturday.
What a load of tosh. In all probability the bulk of that £500k was 1) removing and not replacing like-for-like the academy director (Paul Hart), 2) paying off the ridiculous Martin Prothero, 3) settling the Steve Kavanagh case, including his legal costs as well as their own, plus miscellaneous redundancy payments to the likes of Colin Powell and Paul Ellis.
In respect of 1, 2 and 3, the club was clearing up the almighty mess left by the previous regime (although I have no view about Paul Hart, either way. It's his contract at issue). If I am right about 1) and 2) they were simply compensating them for existing commitments, so it was money due to be paid out under their existing deals anyway. It was just brought forward. In the case of 3) it was nothing at all to do with RD and is likely to have been funded by the previous lot. The other two legal/tribunal cases, PV and my own, were settled under the previous regime, so not RD at all.
In all of 1), 2) and 3), the club had no choice but to pay and I would hope you wouldn't intend to apply the term "continuous improvement" to removing the individual more junior staff members.
@Airman Brown You neglect to mention the departure of Steve Bradshaw nor the outsourcing of catering. By ommittiting these you fail to consider improvements to operational performance and the bottom line. I have no idea who received what but this was a one off expense to help clear the decks. I would expect to see improved performance as a result.
@Airman Brown You neglect to mention the departure of Steve Bradshaw nor the outsourcing of catering. By ommittiting these you fail to consider improvements to operational performance and the bottom line. I have no idea who received what but this was a one off expense to help clear the decks. I would expect to see improved performance as a result.
Bradshaw hadn't been there long enough to qualify for a redundancy payment and I assume catering staff were TUPEd over to the new providers, so I am not sure how that is a cost. Hart was a subtraction from the staff complement so he would have to have been a negative contributor for his removal to amount to an improvement. That seems a bit harsh.
I agree it's a one-off, hence it's not "continuous", is it? As usual you have "no idea" what's going on, but trot out this cheerleading stuff regardless of the facts.
Cheerleading more fun than pissing on the fireworks, week in week out I find!
On a serious note, I've no idea whether all staff were tupe'd across - certainly there are different staff in the West Upper. And as for Bradshaw, like I stated I don't know the numbers.
As you know I make it a rule not to comment too much on staff matters but I think it's fair to say that removing him from the hierarchy will improve line management and hence operations.
The reference to continuous improvement is of course talking about the whole club year on year on year. There are clubs failing on the pitch in the bottom six which are losing £10m a year. Even if Wigan avoid relegation they are about to run out of parachute money.
Meanwhile CAFC has perhaps 14 decent players on the books and it's not hard to imagine that another five might be added now or over the summer.
Where we might agree is that if M.Duchatelet chooses not to add the required talent for 2015-16 then he's wasting his time and money....and ours!
Cheerleading more fun than pissing on the fireworks, week in week out I find!
On a serious note, I've no idea whether all staff were tupe'd across - certainly there are different staff in the West Upper. And as for Bradshaw, like I stated I don't know the numbers.
As you know I make it a rule not to comment too much on staff matters but I think it's fair to say that removing him from the hierarchy will improve line management and hence operations.
The reference to continuous improvement is of course talking about the whole club year on year on year. There are clubs failing on the pitch in the bottom six which are losing £10m a year. Even if Wigan avoid relegation they are about to run out of parachute money.
Meanwhile CAFC has perhaps 14 decent players on the books and it's not hard to imagine that another five might be added now or over the summer.
Where we might agree is that if M.Duchatelet chooses not to add the required talent for 2015-16 then he's wasting his time and money....and ours!
The point I responded to you on is the narrow one that the club spent £500k "restructuring" the management team last summer. None of that money needed to go on Bradshaw, since he didn't qualify for redundancy, just contractual notice. That's not confidential, it's in the public domain since we know when he was there. If they paid him off over and above that, that's their look-out, but it doesn't add any value to the business.
Kavanagh was sacked in August 2012, although they were so mad they tried to backdate his date of dismissal. That's not a restructure last summer and therefore not a cost of same. Neither was it an improvement when the previous lot decided to run without a chief executive. Otherwise these payments are about cost-cutting, not improving the business, unless you see everything being about the wage bill and nothing about the quality and capacity of the workforce.
Whether there are improvements we can discuss another day. What I am saying is that this £500k does not, in the main, relate to any made by RD - although getting shot of Prothero might be an exception!
It's not exactly a false rumour, is it? A rumour is something up in the air, this is up in the air....
Who put it up in the air?
Nobody of any importance or knowledge whatsoever.
Take a look at RD's past into sacking managers, look at our past few months of football results, add 1 + 1 and I think even without real substance the rumour could be correct. Just because he's tied down to a contract it means nothing, it's cheaper for RD to gamble & swap managers and try get the results than spend actual money on players.
Just because you don't want it to be true, doesn't mean it may be.. you'll never be able to track the rumour back to it's original source.
It's not exactly a false rumour, is it? A rumour is something up in the air, this is up in the air....
Who put it up in the air?
Nobody of any importance or knowledge whatsoever.
Take a look at RD's past into sacking managers, look at our past few months of football results, add 1 + 1 and I think even without real substance the rumour could be correct. Just because he's tied down to a contract it means nothing, it's cheaper for RD to gamble & swap managers and try get the results than spend actual money on players.
Just because you don't want it to be true, doesn't mean it may be.. you'll never be able to track the rumour back to it's original source.
We know the original source. It's an Israeli website. It suggests that Luzon is replacing Peeters. However it is so unsure of itself that the first sentence introducing the idea is a question mark. No other respected media site anywhere in Europe has run the story. Desert red, who whacked it up here, has the opinion that the website got it from Luzon "people" but he hasn't explained why he thinks it. It could just as easily be an excitable teenager. And I would remind you that just a couple of months ago when we were doing well a "rumour" surfaced that Luzon would be fired from Standard and replaced by Peeters. That too was totally without foundation. That is why I am confident that this "rumour" is a load of bollocks.
You can say that RD has seemed a bit trigger-happy. That does not make the rumour that started this thread any more credible.
It's not exactly a false rumour, is it? A rumour is something up in the air, this is up in the air....
Yes, it is. The rumour is/was that Bob was gone, sacked, fired, removed. This is false. He's still around. Now that is not the same as saying he's not under pressure, or that his job might very well be in peril... but he's not lost it yet. RD won't care for feelings of fans, CP was more popular than Bob will ever be and he got rid just the same, if he wanted Bob out already, he'd be out.
As @ShootersHillGuru posted, a lot has been delivered within the first 12 months of ownership so why would anyone think progress will stop now?!
Some throw their toys out of the pram demanding sight of business plans and the like... One particular individual likes to question the competence of the board and executives at every available opportunity. Even after 12 months of improvement on and off the field they can't possibly know what they're doing!
The quote above suggests continuous improvement and non stop change - year after year after year. It suggests to me that we need only limp through to the summer and there will then be another uplift in the squad, another step change.
As regards Peeters there are only two possible outcomes this window - he is backed or he is sacked. Therefore I will go to the Brighton game expecting to watch a mid-table game but in the full knowledge that Peeters needs to deliver a performance and a result.
I know of no other club where a minority celebrate failure as much as with us! Wallowing in martyrdom and victimhood. The reality is that we have players coming back into contention and Peeters needs to show he can coach a team in the same way he did in August and September. For sure he's under pressure but he needs to utilise that pressure to galvanise the squad.
If he can't, week after week then he is not much use to CAFC I'm afraid. But if he can turn it around, secure a win then we can look forward to the Watford game. So rather than worry about his fate (which none of us can influence) why not go and enjoy the game on Saturday knowing that a win will get this monkey off our back... Even if it does reignite the dreaded hope of a play-off place!
You know what - I'd much rather the pressure was on the head coach and not on the whole club finances because the board were skint and the previous managers had burnt all the spare cash! What the critics fail to recognise is that not only did we land and finance the signings of Vetokele, Gudmundsson, Bikey and Ben Haim last summer but that it is entirely plausible that the exercise is repeated next summer.
For sure a few network players will come and go but this really isn't the main headline to date. No, the squad is the youngest in the division and mostly on long term deals. Those not in favour are shipped out and there is a proven scouting system which can easily fill the gaps by the time we kick off in August.
It's continuous improvement alright, which is why the club spent £500k restructuring the management team last summer. I look forwards to the second year of this new era, starting Saturday.
Peeters will NOT get the boot if we lose to Brighton.
As @ShootersHillGuru posted, a lot has been delivered within the first 12 months of ownership so why would anyone think progress will stop now?!
Some throw their toys out of the pram demanding sight of business plans and the like... One particular individual likes to question the competence of the board and executives at every available opportunity. Even after 12 months of improvement on and off the field they can't possibly know what they're doing!
The quote above suggests continuous improvement and non stop change - year after year after year. It suggests to me that we need only limp through to the summer and there will then be another uplift in the squad, another step change.
As regards Peeters there are only two possible outcomes this window - he is backed or he is sacked. Therefore I will go to the Brighton game expecting to watch a mid-table game but in the full knowledge that Peeters needs to deliver a performance and a result.
I know of no other club where a minority celebrate failure as much as with us! Wallowing in martyrdom and victimhood. The reality is that we have players coming back into contention and Peeters needs to show he can coach a team in the same way he did in August and September. For sure he's under pressure but he needs to utilise that pressure to galvanise the squad.
If he can't, week after week then he is not much use to CAFC I'm afraid. But if he can turn it around, secure a win then we can look forward to the Watford game. So rather than worry about his fate (which none of us can influence) why not go and enjoy the game on Saturday knowing that a win will get this monkey off our back... Even if it does reignite the dreaded hope of a play-off place!
You know what - I'd much rather the pressure was on the head coach and not on the whole club finances because the board were skint and the previous managers had burnt all the spare cash! What the critics fail to recognise is that not only did we land and finance the signings of Vetokele, Gudmundsson, Bikey and Ben Haim last summer but that it is entirely plausible that the exercise is repeated next summer.
For sure a few network players will come and go but this really isn't the main headline to date. No, the squad is the youngest in the division and mostly on long term deals. Those not in favour are shipped out and there is a proven scouting system which can easily fill the gaps by the time we kick off in August.
It's continuous improvement alright, which is why the club spent £500k restructuring the management team last summer. I look forwards to the second year of this new era, starting Saturday.
Peeters will NOT get the boot if we lose to Brighton.
I wouldn't put money on it. Anything is possible with the Belgian.
As @ShootersHillGuru posted, a lot has been delivered within the first 12 months of ownership so why would anyone think progress will stop now?!
Some throw their toys out of the pram demanding sight of business plans and the like... One particular individual likes to question the competence of the board and executives at every available opportunity. Even after 12 months of improvement on and off the field they can't possibly know what they're doing!
The quote above suggests continuous improvement and non stop change - year after year after year. It suggests to me that we need only limp through to the summer and there will then be another uplift in the squad, another step change.
As regards Peeters there are only two possible outcomes this window - he is backed or he is sacked. Therefore I will go to the Brighton game expecting to watch a mid-table game but in the full knowledge that Peeters needs to deliver a performance and a result.
I know of no other club where a minority celebrate failure as much as with us! Wallowing in martyrdom and victimhood. The reality is that we have players coming back into contention and Peeters needs to show he can coach a team in the same way he did in August and September. For sure he's under pressure but he needs to utilise that pressure to galvanise the squad.
If he can't, week after week then he is not much use to CAFC I'm afraid. But if he can turn it around, secure a win then we can look forward to the Watford game. So rather than worry about his fate (which none of us can influence) why not go and enjoy the game on Saturday knowing that a win will get this monkey off our back... Even if it does reignite the dreaded hope of a play-off place!
You know what - I'd much rather the pressure was on the head coach and not on the whole club finances because the board were skint and the previous managers had burnt all the spare cash! What the critics fail to recognise is that not only did we land and finance the signings of Vetokele, Gudmundsson, Bikey and Ben Haim last summer but that it is entirely plausible that the exercise is repeated next summer.
For sure a few network players will come and go but this really isn't the main headline to date. No, the squad is the youngest in the division and mostly on long term deals. Those not in favour are shipped out and there is a proven scouting system which can easily fill the gaps by the time we kick off in August.
It's continuous improvement alright, which is why the club spent £500k restructuring the management team last summer. I look forwards to the second year of this new era, starting Saturday.
What a load of tosh. In all probability the bulk of that £500k was 1) removing and not replacing like-for-like the academy director (Paul Hart), 2) paying off the ridiculous Martin Prothero, 3) settling the Steve Kavanagh case, including his legal costs as well as their own, plus miscellaneous redundancy payments to the likes of Colin Powell and Paul Ellis.
It's not exactly a false rumour, is it? A rumour is something up in the air, this is up in the air....
Who put it up in the air?
Nobody of any importance or knowledge whatsoever.
Take a look at RD's past into sacking managers, look at our past few months of football results, add 1 + 1 and I think even without real substance the rumour could be correct. Just because he's tied down to a contract it means nothing, it's cheaper for RD to gamble & swap managers and try get the results than spend actual money on players.
Just because you don't want it to be true, doesn't mean it may be.. you'll never be able to track the rumour back to it's original source.
We know the original source. It's an Israeli website. It suggests that Luzon is replacing Peeters. However it is so unsure of itself that the first sentence introducing the idea is a question mark. No other respected media site anywhere in Europe has run the story. Desert red, who whacked it up here, has the opinion that the website got it from Luzon "people" but he hasn't explained why he thinks it. It could just as easily be an excitable teenager. And I would remind you that just a couple of months ago when we were doing well a "rumour" surfaced that Luzon would be fired from Standard and replaced by Peeters. That too was totally without foundation. That is why I am confident that this "rumour" is a load of bollocks.
You can say that RD has seemed a bit trigger-happy. That does not make the rumour that started this thread any more credible.
An Israeli website posting an article does not make them the source, you should know that... most newspapers/news article sites get tip offs for this sort of thing, websites rarely make up rumours, maybe they did, but that's not a fact that they themselves made it up, as we have no proof.
It's clear to see he hasn't already been sacked but he may well be hanging on for dear life with a game or two to decide that, we don't know.
As @ShootersHillGuru posted, a lot has been delivered within the first 12 months of ownership so why would anyone think progress will stop now?!
Some throw their toys out of the pram demanding sight of business plans and the like... One particular individual likes to question the competence of the board and executives at every available opportunity. Even after 12 months of improvement on and off the field they can't possibly know what they're doing!
The quote above suggests continuous improvement and non stop change - year after year after year. It suggests to me that we need only limp through to the summer and there will then be another uplift in the squad, another step change.
As regards Peeters there are only two possible outcomes this window - he is backed or he is sacked. Therefore I will go to the Brighton game expecting to watch a mid-table game but in the full knowledge that Peeters needs to deliver a performance and a result.
I know of no other club where a minority celebrate failure as much as with us! Wallowing in martyrdom and victimhood. The reality is that we have players coming back into contention and Peeters needs to show he can coach a team in the same way he did in August and September. For sure he's under pressure but he needs to utilise that pressure to galvanise the squad.
If he can't, week after week then he is not much use to CAFC I'm afraid. But if he can turn it around, secure a win then we can look forward to the Watford game. So rather than worry about his fate (which none of us can influence) why not go and enjoy the game on Saturday knowing that a win will get this monkey off our back... Even if it does reignite the dreaded hope of a play-off place!
You know what - I'd much rather the pressure was on the head coach and not on the whole club finances because the board were skint and the previous managers had burnt all the spare cash! What the critics fail to recognise is that not only did we land and finance the signings of Vetokele, Gudmundsson, Bikey and Ben Haim last summer but that it is entirely plausible that the exercise is repeated next summer.
For sure a few network players will come and go but this really isn't the main headline to date. No, the squad is the youngest in the division and mostly on long term deals. Those not in favour are shipped out and there is a proven scouting system which can easily fill the gaps by the time we kick off in August.
It's continuous improvement alright, which is why the club spent £500k restructuring the management team last summer. I look forwards to the second year of this new era, starting Saturday.
What a load of tosh. In all probability the bulk of that £500k was 1) removing and not replacing like-for-like the academy director (Paul Hart), 2) paying off the ridiculous Martin Prothero, 3) settling the Steve Kavanagh case, including his legal costs as well as their own, plus miscellaneous redundancy payments to the likes of Colin Powell and Paul Ellis.
And the cash you trousered?
Which is actually mentioned in my original post and not quoted by you, so you can point to its omission. Amazing, really.
It's not exactly a false rumour, is it? A rumour is something up in the air, this is up in the air....
Who put it up in the air?
Nobody of any importance or knowledge whatsoever.
Take a look at RD's past into sacking managers, look at our past few months of football results, add 1 + 1 and I think even without real substance the rumour could be correct. Just because he's tied down to a contract it means nothing, it's cheaper for RD to gamble & swap managers and try get the results than spend actual money on players.
Just because you don't want it to be true, doesn't mean it may be.. you'll never be able to track the rumour back to it's original source.
We know the original source. It's an Israeli website. It suggests that Luzon is replacing Peeters. However it is so unsure of itself that the first sentence introducing the idea is a question mark. No other respected media site anywhere in Europe has run the story. Desert red, who whacked it up here, has the opinion that the website got it from Luzon "people" but he hasn't explained why he thinks it. It could just as easily be an excitable teenager. And I would remind you that just a couple of months ago when we were doing well a "rumour" surfaced that Luzon would be fired from Standard and replaced by Peeters. That too was totally without foundation. That is why I am confident that this "rumour" is a load of bollocks.
You can say that RD has seemed a bit trigger-happy. That does not make the rumour that started this thread any more credible.
An Israeli website posting an article does not make them the source, you should know that... most newspapers/news article sites get tip offs for this sort of thing, websites rarely make up rumours, maybe they did, but that's not a fact that they themselves made it up, as we have no proof.
It's clear to see he hasn't already been sacked but he may well be hanging on for dear life with a game or two to decide that, we don't know.
Websites rarely make up rumours?
A website which (mis) uses the BBC phrase "has learnt that..." but precedes it with a question about whether what they have "learnt" is actually verifiable, is not professional journalism, at least not to the standards of the BBC, which unfortunately fewer and fewer people seem to appreciate.
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In respect of 1, 2 and 3, the club was clearing up the almighty mess left by the previous regime (although I have no view about Paul Hart, either way. It's his contract at issue). If I am right about 1) and 2) they were simply compensating them for existing commitments, so it was money due to be paid out under their existing deals anyway. It was just brought forward. In the case of 3) it was nothing at all to do with RD and is likely to have been funded by the previous lot. The other two legal/tribunal cases, PV and my own, were settled under the previous regime, so not RD at all.
In all of 1), 2) and 3), the club had no choice but to pay and I would hope you wouldn't intend to apply the term "continuous improvement" to removing the individual more junior staff members.
You neglect to mention the departure of Steve Bradshaw nor the outsourcing of catering. By ommittiting these you fail to consider improvements to operational performance and the bottom line.
I have no idea who received what but this was a one off expense to help clear the decks. I would expect to see improved performance as a result.
Nobody of any importance or knowledge whatsoever.
I agree it's a one-off, hence it's not "continuous", is it? As usual you have "no idea" what's going on, but trot out this cheerleading stuff regardless of the facts.
On a serious note, I've no idea whether all staff were tupe'd across - certainly there are different staff in the West Upper. And as for Bradshaw, like I stated I don't know the numbers.
As you know I make it a rule not to comment too much on staff matters but I think it's fair to say that removing him from the hierarchy will improve line management and hence operations.
The reference to continuous improvement is of course talking about the whole club year on year on year. There are clubs failing on the pitch in the bottom six which are losing £10m a year. Even if Wigan avoid relegation they are about to run out of parachute money.
Meanwhile CAFC has perhaps 14 decent players on the books and it's not hard to imagine that another five might be added now or over the summer.
Where we might agree is that if M.Duchatelet chooses not to add the required talent for 2015-16 then he's wasting his time and money....and ours!
Kavanagh was sacked in August 2012, although they were so mad they tried to backdate his date of dismissal. That's not a restructure last summer and therefore not a cost of same. Neither was it an improvement when the previous lot decided to run without a chief executive. Otherwise these payments are about cost-cutting, not improving the business, unless you see everything being about the wage bill and nothing about the quality and capacity of the workforce.
Whether there are improvements we can discuss another day. What I am saying is that this £500k does not, in the main, relate to any made by RD - although getting shot of Prothero might be an exception!
Just because you don't want it to be true, doesn't mean it may be.. you'll never be able to track the rumour back to it's original source.
You can say that RD has seemed a bit trigger-happy. That does not make the rumour that started this thread any more credible.
Can Olly confirm whether BPs quotes on Watts were made today?
It's clear to see he hasn't already been sacked but he may well be hanging on for dear life with a game or two to decide that, we don't know.
Peeters 3/1 fav
Pearce 3/1 fav
Holloway 5/1
Make of that what you will. Although should Millwall lose to Blackpool and Bradford in their next two Holloway will be gone.
Peeters would hit 100!
A website which (mis) uses the BBC phrase "has learnt that..." but precedes it with a question about whether what they have "learnt" is actually verifiable, is not professional journalism, at least not to the standards of the BBC, which unfortunately fewer and fewer people seem to appreciate.