Piotr Parzyszek Retweeted raymondwillemsen @willemsenray 18m18 minutes ago Piotr Parzyszek has contract with Charlton Athletic action and is a free transfer. Ex-striker The County can now find new club # dg
Guess thats why Randers were happy to end the loan deal... Good luck to him, should never have left his Dutch club for us
There are some strong contenders for the title of "worst bit of transfer business under the regime", but signing PP must be up there with the leaders. Shocking waste of money.
There are some strong contenders for the title of "worst bit of transfer business under the regime", but signing PP must be up there with the leaders. Shocking waste of money.
And the tragic thing is you can sort of tell that was always going to be the case just from his Youtube video. There's little there to show much in the way of ball control or silky smooth finishing in the Clive Mendoca mould. So, imagine how bad the bits that ended up on the cutting room floor must have been? And still we paid good money for him.
who scouted him for us? who went and watched him play 10/15 times and who agreed the transfer??
Who scouted him... Roland... Who went and watched him play... Dont be silly, Roland has streams to every player in the world so he didnt need to go and see him... Who agreed the transfer... Do you seriously need to ask?
who scouted him for us? who went and watched him play 10/15 times and who agreed the transfer??
Who scouted him... Roland... Who went and watched him play... Dont be silly, Roland has streams to every player in the world so he didnt need to go and see him... Who agreed the transfer... Do you seriously need to ask?
Straight away gave the the image of Roland a.k.a. "The Architect"
Big bucks reported at the time but I do wonder how much signing PP has actually cost. Doubt there was a very big up front payment with most of the fee dependent on games played etc etc. Doubt Pete has triggered any additional monies. If we havn't paid too much in wages whilst on loan then he probably hasn't actually cost that much.
The real issue here is the acquisition of an obviously not good enough player in the first place. I'm fairly confident that those to blame are still actively influencing our recruitment policy. It's utter madness.
Big bucks reported at the time but I do wonder how much signing PP has actually cost. Doubt there was a very big up front payment with most of the fee dependent on games played etc etc. Doubt Pete has triggered any additional monies. If we havn't paid too much in wages whilst on loan then he probably hasn't actually cost that much.
The real issue here is the acquisition of an obviously not good enough player in the first place. I'm fairly confident that those to blame are still actively influencing our recruitment policy. It's utter madness.
This. And even the biggest clubs with the best scouting networks make mistakes on players in their late teens/early twenties. But given the levels he played and failed to succeed at, it seems that he had nowhere near the potential that was claimed.
I wonder (and sort of ask this to the group), if there would have been as much frustration with him if he hadn't been signed when Yann left?
Big bucks reported at the time but I do wonder how much signing PP has actually cost. Doubt there was a very big up front payment with most of the fee dependent on games played etc etc. Doubt Pete has triggered any additional monies. If we havn't paid too much in wages whilst on loan then he probably hasn't actually cost that much.
The real issue here is the acquisition of an obviously not good enough player in the first place. I'm fairly confident that those to blame are still actively influencing our recruitment policy. It's utter madness.
The guy signed a four and a half year deal. It's highly unlikely he's on less than £150k a year. Practically everyone except kids was on £250k minimum in 2013, and he's a striker, who attract a premium. Even at £150k that would make his contract worth £675k in round numbers (and that excludes on-costs). We were subsiding his wages at Randers and if his contract has been cancelled it's reasonable to assume that we paid up a good half of the balance, probably more given he won't earn the same anywhere else. I'd be very surprised if he has cost the club less than £1m overall and it's quite likely to be closer to £2m, depending on the fee.
This was a player who, from day one, couldn't cut it in the U21s, according to reports. Not his fault, but it was an appalling decision to sign him. I suspect if people saw the figures there would be more frustration, not less.
If his signing hadn't been at the same time as the departure of Yann, it might have been easier for him, as he could gave been described as "a signing for the future", a punt on raw talent(!) rather than the replacement for a club icon which we assumed he was.
Fortune 82nd Minute Member 10:43AM What was the rumour regarding how much we paid for him?
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There was a rumour of- 700,000 Euros - £528.341.76 - but that does sound high. On transfer market it is says £375,000 which sounds a more realistic amount. Of course, a lot of the transfers dealings are undisclosed which makes it more difficult to judge the amount of money invested / thrown away.
Transfer market has his maximum value at £375,000, now valued at £300,000 (don't know how reliable that is)
700k not sure if euros or pounds was the amount i heard for this fella
and for the record at the time when everyone was dropping to their knees to swallow anything Roland would throw at us I said he looked like a park player playing with a stadium in the back ground from his youtube montage
For a club with limited resources such as ourselves, to have wasted so much money through appalling scouting and a complete failure to research the strength of the Championship, is a disgrace. Nothing against Piotr personally, but his time on the pitch in the first team is likely to have cost us in the region of
I said the first time I saw him for the U21s we had been sold a dud. Michael Smith and Joe Pigott looked a class above him. He looked like the standard of a Welling United player.
To be honest, I don't care if he cost £10 or £10 million, what really gets me is that he was signed as the replacement for Yann. If we'd just brought him in as an expensive development squad player then it would have still been a mistake, but Pete was sold to us as the answer to our problems, and as a means to placate the fans. It wasn't fair on us and to be honest it wasn't fair on him. We sold our best and one of our most influential players and replaced him with a kid who wasn't even at Josh Umerah's level. Even for this lot, that's going to take some beating.
For a club with limited resources such as ourselves, to have wasted so much money through appalling scouting and a complete failure to research the strength of the Championship, is a disgrace. Nothing against Piotr personally, but his time on the pitch in the first team is likely to have cost us in the region of
£100,000 per minute
if it were just him then fair enough as all Clubs make the odd mistake but we have had far too many in the RD era who have, or still are, costing us plenty out of our limited budget.
For a club with limited resources such as ourselves, to have wasted so much money through appalling scouting and a complete failure to research the strength of the Championship, is a disgrace. Nothing against Piotr personally, but his time on the pitch in the first team is likely to have cost us in the region of
£100,000 per minute
if it were just him then fair enough as all Clubs make the odd mistake but we have had far too many in the RD era who have, or still are, costing us plenty out of our limited budget.
Big bucks reported at the time but I do wonder how much signing PP has actually cost. Doubt there was a very big up front payment with most of the fee dependent on games played etc etc. Doubt Pete has triggered any additional monies. If we havn't paid too much in wages whilst on loan then he probably hasn't actually cost that much.
The real issue here is the acquisition of an obviously not good enough player in the first place. I'm fairly confident that those to blame are still actively influencing our recruitment policy. It's utter madness.
The guy signed a four and a half year deal. It's highly unlikely he's on less than £150k a year. Practically everyone except kids was on £250k minimum in 2013, and he's a striker, who attract a premium. Even at £150k that would make his contract worth £675k in round numbers (and that excludes on-costs). We were subsiding his wages at Randers and if his contract has been cancelled it's reasonable to assume that we paid up a good half of the balance, probably more given he won't earn the same anywhere else. I'd be very surprised if he has cost the club less than £1m overall and it's quite likely to be closer to £2m, depending on the fee.
This was a player who, from day one, couldn't cut it in the U21s, according to reports. Not his fault, but it was an appalling decision to sign him. I suspect if people saw the figures there would be more frustration, not less.
Thankyou AB. Taking your points into consideration Piotr's signing was nothing short of criminal.
Big bucks reported at the time but I do wonder how much signing PP has actually cost. Doubt there was a very big up front payment with most of the fee dependent on games played etc etc. Doubt Pete has triggered any additional monies. If we havn't paid too much in wages whilst on loan then he probably hasn't actually cost that much.
The real issue here is the acquisition of an obviously not good enough player in the first place. I'm fairly confident that those to blame are still actively influencing our recruitment policy. It's utter madness.
The guy signed a four and a half year deal. It's highly unlikely he's on less than £150k a year. Practically everyone except kids was on £250k minimum in 2013, and he's a striker, who attract a premium. Even at £150k that would make his contract worth £675k in round numbers (and that excludes on-costs). We were subsiding his wages at Randers and if his contract has been cancelled it's reasonable to assume that we paid up a good half of the balance, probably more given he won't earn the same anywhere else. I'd be very surprised if he has cost the club less than £1m overall and it's quite likely to be closer to £2m, depending on the fee.
This was a player who, from day one, couldn't cut it in the U21s, according to reports. Not his fault, but it was an appalling decision to sign him. I suspect if people saw the figures there would be more frustration, not less.
Thankyou AB. Taking your points into consideration Piotr's signing was nothing short of criminal.
Money thrown away. Who is accountable for the PP signing ? I would like to know KM's take on the whole PP deal and outcome.
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raymondwillemsen @willemsenray 18m18 minutes ago
Piotr Parzyszek has contract with Charlton Athletic action and is a free transfer. Ex-striker The County can now find new club # dg
Guess thats why Randers were happy to end the loan deal... Good luck to him, should never have left his Dutch club for us
The real issue here is the acquisition of an obviously not good enough player in the first place. I'm fairly confident that those to blame are still actively influencing our recruitment policy. It's utter madness.
I wonder (and sort of ask this to the group), if there would have been as much frustration with him if he hadn't been signed when Yann left?
This was a player who, from day one, couldn't cut it in the U21s, according to reports. Not his fault, but it was an appalling decision to sign him. I suspect if people saw the figures there would be more frustration, not less.
10:43AM
What was the rumour regarding how much we paid for him?
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There was a rumour of- 700,000 Euros - £528.341.76 - but that does sound high. On transfer market it is says £375,000 which sounds a more realistic amount. Of course, a lot of the transfers dealings are undisclosed which makes it more difficult to judge the amount of money invested / thrown away.
Transfer market has his maximum value at £375,000, now valued at £300,000 (don't know how reliable that is)
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/piotr-parzyszek/transfers/spieler/155202
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/charlton-athletic/english-football-teams/charlton-athletic-transfers (not sure how accurate it is, as it has Yann sold for £500,000.
http://themoneyconverter.com/GBP/EUR.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piotr_Parzyszek
and for the record at the time when everyone was dropping to their knees to swallow anything Roland would throw at us I said he looked like a park player playing with a stadium in the back ground from his youtube montage
edit vff says the same re 700k
£100,000 per minute
"Lewandowski!"
http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-athletic-piotr-parzyszek-contract-terminated-2936514.aspx
http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/20140131-piotr-parzyszek-completes-charlton-move-1331200.aspx