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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Chizz said:

    Just for a bit of balance, this is an interesting bit of information...


    Give it up Chizz.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,627
    carly burn said:

    Just stuck a few quid on the Tories to cosy up to UKIP to form a government. 50-1

    Well if the exit polls are correct UKIP will have two MP'S
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,785
    Depressing night for the Lib Dems. Tories have done a fantastic job shifting most of the blame re: the last five years onto their coalition partners.
  • Red_in_SE8
    Red_in_SE8 Posts: 5,961
    The UKIP vote has been amazing so far. How can this election be seen as a failure by Farage?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    edited May 2015
    Callumcafc said:

    Depressing night for the Lib Dems. Tories have done a fantastic job shifting most of the blame re: the last five years onto their coalition partners.

    It's nothing to do with that imo. If there was a lot of blame for the last 5 years, then the Tories would have been sunk.

    It seems that the majority have recognised that the coalition have done a good job.

    It's mainly down to a choice of Labour & Conservative & people knew a vote for The Lib Dems could let in their least favoured. So voters are either going red or blue.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,331
    UKIP vote showing that you can get away with anything if you choose the right scapegoat
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Looks a lot like political 'arrangements' are going to be needed, or will the system need reform, or even a break up of Britain into parts?
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
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    Covered End said:

    Chizz said:

    Just for a bit of balance, this is an interesting bit of information...


    Give it up Chizz.
    I thought that was interesting information for any of us who don't yet know the full results.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,785
    Przemek De Skuba Skwirczynski is an unexpected name for a UKIP candidate...
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Lib Dems are getting a 20% fall in nearly every seat & their votes are going to UKIP and whoever is the strongest in the main. So a strong Tory or Labour opponent is benefiting.

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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,940
    edited May 2015
    All results in line with exit poll so far in terms of swing
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    seth plum said:

    Looks a lot like political 'arrangements' are going to be needed, or will the system need reform, or even a break up of Britain into parts?

    Seth, what's your view on how the Tories form a government, if the results are along the lines of the Exit poll, ie 10 seats short of a majority, but with the LibDems utterly battered? Who do they jump into bed with?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    edited May 2015
    Chizz said:

    seth plum said:

    Looks a lot like political 'arrangements' are going to be needed, or will the system need reform, or even a break up of Britain into parts?

    Seth, what's your view on how the Tories form a government, if the results are along the lines of the Exit poll, ie 10 seats short of a majority, but with the LibDems utterly battered? Who do they jump into bed with?
    They'll go it alone with an informal agreement with the DUP, unless Lib Dems want to join in.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,830
    Interesting hearing Kinnock. Reckons it's down to self delusion that people say one thing to pollsters then at the ballot box think the Tories will put more money in their pockets so change their vote. That bloke come very close to running this country
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Cons hold Battersea, with a swing from Labour to Cons.
    Labour were hoping to win the seat.
    Lib Dems lost 10%.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    AFKABartram said:

    Interesting hearing Kinnock. Reckons it's down to self delusion that people say one thing to pollsters then at the ballot box think the Tories will put more money in their pockets so change their vote. That bloke come very close to running this country

    No surprise from Kinnock. He's deluded, yet he thinks it's the British public that are deluded.
    Very sour interview, as you would expect.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I think that Ulster Unionist parties will be significant, the impossibility in terms of credibility seems to be linking with the Liberals seeing the general collapse in the national Liberal vote. UKIP or even the Greens might have more votes but less seats than the Liberals so how can there be credible LibDem ministers?
    We all need to fasten our seatbelts.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,466
    AFKABartram said:

    Interesting hearing Kinnock. Reckons it's down to self delusion that people say one thing to pollsters then at the ballot box think the Tories will put more money in their pockets so change their vote. That bloke come very close to running this country


    Kinnocks seen all this before. It's 1992 all over again
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    Covered End said:

    Chizz said:

    seth plum said:

    Looks a lot like political 'arrangements' are going to be needed, or will the system need reform, or even a break up of Britain into parts?

    Seth, what's your view on how the Tories form a government, if the results are along the lines of the Exit poll, ie 10 seats short of a majority, but with the LibDems utterly battered? Who do they jump into bed with?
    They'll go it alone with an informal agreement with the DUP, unless Lib Dems want to join in.
    ...and cross their fingers on the Queen's speech?
  • Red_in_SE8
    Red_in_SE8 Posts: 5,961
    Covered End said:

    Chizz said:

    seth plum said:

    Looks a lot like political 'arrangements' are going to be needed, or will the system need reform, or even a break up of Britain into parts?

    Seth, what's your view on how the Tories form a government, if the results are along the lines of the Exit poll, ie 10 seats short of a majority, but with the LibDems utterly battered? Who do they jump into bed with?
    They'll go it alone with an informal agreement with the DUP, unless Lib Dems want to join in.
    Yes, I agree. If the Tories get more than 310-12 seats they could go it alone.

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  • All_Thaid_Up
    All_Thaid_Up Posts: 2,293
    Simple answer here is the conservatives manage to get their support to vote, labour hasn't.

    If Farage, Ed Balls and Galloway fail to get elected, life will be very good indeed.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Labour hold Wrexham, although a swing to the Tories in a safe Labour seat. Lib Dems lost 20% again.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Someone sometime said something about somebody being in power but not government, it looks like Cameron may be in that position.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,466
    With the changing face of politics we are currently seeing,is the 326 majority an impossible dream?
  • Dippenhall
    Dippenhall Posts: 3,919
    Kinnock blaming voters I think for being dumb and voting Tory instead of Labour.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    UKIP supporters think Farage may have lost by a small margin.
  • seriously_red
    seriously_red Posts: 5,741
    Covered End said:

    Labour hold Wrexham, although a swing to the Tories in a safe Labour seat. Lib Dems lost 20% again.

    Ignore 2-5% swings between Labour an con!
    The story is a Lib Dem collapse across urban and rural...
    As well as Labour not making ground!
    It's a dead heat between left and right?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    The fixed term parliament act is a naughty little minx in all this.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,830
  • Sevensix
    Sevensix Posts: 156
    Since the Sein Fein MPs never vote the effective majority required is 323. The Tories on 316 and at least 7 Ulster Unionists could meet that with the additional comfort of any UKIP members, if there are any. Lib Dems wouldn't be needed even if they agreed to join which may be unlikely given that many of those who will be left may be more left leaning than right.

    Labour lost it as soon as they chose EM instead of DM, the former lacking the charisma, authority and bearing to appeal to many as PM of their country. Going into the booth and thinking of him representing their country may have been the clincher for many not to vote Labour.

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