I am not excusing the police officers one bit here, merely saying part of what the problem is...
How terrified would you be if every single person you had to confront has ready access to a gun and could have one/draw one on you at any time.
As a police officer here it must be a consideration but nothing like the fear the US equivalent. I know I would be terrified.
In my opinion this all stems from a lack of gun control. All the racial things and all that I'm not so sure about, I just think a lot lot lot more noise is made when an ethnic person is the victim. The only thing you could say is that the police are more scared of black people for whatever reason, prejudiced or not.
A pretty powerful take-down of the police officer who fatally shot the victim. Pretty eye opening, especially if you read the (several) follow-up tweets.
A pretty powerful take-down of the police officer who fatally shot the victim. Pretty eye opening, especially if you read the (several) follow-up tweets.
Wtf cannabis use has to do with anything I really don't know
A pretty powerful take-down of the police officer who fatally shot the victim. Pretty eye opening, especially if you read the (several) follow-up tweets.
Wtf cannabis use has to do with anything I really don't know
A pretty powerful take-down of the police officer who fatally shot the victim. Pretty eye opening, especially if you read the (several) follow-up tweets.
Wtf cannabis use has to do with anything I really don't know
You're making the point, perfectly.
I don't understand ? Another trigger happy cop murdered another innocent victim... The mention of weed does nothing but part deflect the blame
A pretty powerful take-down of the police officer who fatally shot the victim. Pretty eye opening, especially if you read the (several) follow-up tweets.
Wtf cannabis use has to do with anything I really don't know
Tokers are killers. Fact.
I murdered a king size box of pringles last night....
A pretty powerful take-down of the police officer who fatally shot the victim. Pretty eye opening, especially if you read the (several) follow-up tweets.
Wtf cannabis use has to do with anything I really don't know
You're making the point, perfectly.
I don't understand ? Another trigger happy cop murdered another innocent victim... The mention of weed does nothing but part deflect the blame
Read all the tweets. When a victim is shot, the media, instantly highlight the victim'support background, whether they're known drug users, whether they have convictions for violence...
The background of the police is almost never revealed. So it's enlightening to see someone pull out the kind of typical background information the media broadcast and publish about the victim.
A pretty powerful take-down of the police officer who fatally shot the victim. Pretty eye opening, especially if you read the (several) follow-up tweets.
Wtf cannabis use has to do with anything I really don't know
You're making the point, perfectly.
I don't understand ? Another trigger happy cop murdered another innocent victim... The mention of weed does nothing but part deflect the blame
Read all the tweets. When a victim is shot, the media, instantly highlight the victim'support background, whether they're known drug users, whether they have convictions for violence...
The background of the police is almost never revealed. So it's enlightening to see someone pull out the kind of typical background information the media broadcast and publish about the victim.
Ah, I get you now.. Makes much more sense with that context
A pretty powerful take-down of the police officer who fatally shot the victim. Pretty eye opening, especially if you read the (several) follow-up tweets.
Republican Congressman Robert Pittenger, of North Carolina, told the BBC the protesters hated white people because white people were successful, but he later apologised for his comments in an interview with CNN.
This is an elected representative of the people ffs - outrageous.
Not sure about God Bless America - should be God Help America.
Officer charged with Manslaughter re: Tulsa shooting.
She gunned down an unarmed man and its manslaughter?? First degree Murder should be the charge.
Agree
This was my initial reaction but in reading around it it will be much easier to get a conviction on manslaughter. Murder can insinuate some sort of pre-meditation (this is where I get a little confused because there is pre-meditated and non-PM murder). But, as a police officer, it will be very difficult to convict her of murder. Sorry, I know this is a bit convoluted, but in short it seems it's a good move by the District Attorney.
What I find more outrageous is that she was charged and released.
So I'll say in the first watching of the video I didn't realize the men had guns, so I back off on my previous statement because this seems to be a genuine case of self defence.
That said, we have "Stand Your Ground" laws in this country whereby if at any time you feel you're threatened, you can shoot someone. This was made famous in the George Zimmerman/Treyvon Martin case whereby Martin was walking home, was accosted by Zimmerman, someone with no legal authority, a scuffle ensued, Martin was shot dead, and Zimmerman was acquitted based on "stand your ground."
Not good for her, breaking and entering isn't a crime punished by death!
Well there's an easy way to avoid the punishment.
That's not how legal punishments and proportionality work though. As I said above I didn't realize the men in this had guns so this is self defense, but as mentioned just above Terrence Crutcher's car broke down while black in the middle of the road and what was his punishment? Death. Treyvon Martin was walking home eating skittles while black and what was his punishment? Death. Eric Garner was illegally selling cigarettes on the street and what was his punishment? Death. Alton Sterling may have resisted arrest, though why he was being arrested was unclear and what was his punishment? Death.
None of these "crimes" carry the death penalty. So this notion that there is a way to avoid such consequences is ludicrous.
Put it this way if someone had broken into my house and I come across them I would hit them repeatedly with anything I could until they were no longer a threat to me or my family.
Not good for her, breaking and entering isn't a crime punished by death!
Well there's an easy way to avoid the punishment.
That's not how legal punishments and proportionality work though. As I said above I didn't realize the men in this had guns so this is self defense, but as mentioned just above Terrence Crutcher's car broke down while black in the middle of the road and what was his punishment? Death. Treyvon Martin was walking home eating skittles while black and what was his punishment? Death. Eric Garner was illegally selling cigarettes on the street and what was his punishment? Death. Alton Sterling may have resisted arrest, though why he was being arrested was unclear and what was his punishment? Death.
None of these "crimes" carry the death penalty. So this notion that there is a way to avoid such consequences is ludicrous.
I answered the post about breaking and entering. It really is quite simple, if you don't break into peoples houses you won't get shot in there.
Put it this way if someone had broken into my house and I come across them I would hit them repeatedly with anything I could until they were no longer a threat to me or my family.
If that's deemed wrong by law so be it
I wouldn't, I'd wake the wife up and let her deal with it.
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How terrified would you be if every single person you had to confront has ready access to a gun and could have one/draw one on you at any time.
As a police officer here it must be a consideration but nothing like the fear the US equivalent. I know I would be terrified.
In my opinion this all stems from a lack of gun control. All the racial things and all that I'm not so sure about, I just think a lot lot lot more noise is made when an ethnic person is the victim. The only thing you could say is that the police are more scared of black people for whatever reason, prejudiced or not.
A pretty powerful take-down of the police officer who fatally shot the victim. Pretty eye opening, especially if you read the (several) follow-up tweets.
I don't understand ? Another trigger happy cop murdered another innocent victim... The mention of weed does nothing but part deflect the blame
I murdered a king size box of pringles last night....
The background of the police is almost never revealed. So it's enlightening to see someone pull out the kind of typical background information the media broadcast and publish about the victim.
Ah, I get you now.. Makes much more sense with that context
This is an elected representative of the people ffs - outrageous.
Not sure about God Bless America - should be God Help America.
http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/09/23/woman-shoots-at-burglars-during-home-invasion-dnt.wsb
What I find more outrageous is that she was charged and released.
That said, we have "Stand Your Ground" laws in this country whereby if at any time you feel you're threatened, you can shoot someone. This was made famous in the George Zimmerman/Treyvon Martin case whereby Martin was walking home, was accosted by Zimmerman, someone with no legal authority, a scuffle ensued, Martin was shot dead, and Zimmerman was acquitted based on "stand your ground."
None of these "crimes" carry the death penalty. So this notion that there is a way to avoid such consequences is ludicrous.
I mean, it probably shouldn't be legal, but that video is completely irrelevant to the main thrust of this discussion, which involves police procedure
If that's deemed wrong by law so be it