^ haven't really bothered reading the thread as just too many posts since I last looked but pretty sure the point of the flyer was to ask for greater communication with the fan base. Not sure how anyone could or would have an issue with that.
Because paradoxically people love authority, whilst at the same time don't like being 'told what to do'. Yes, it is strange.
Don't want to dismiss anyone with an opposing view as a troll as that only creates division which is not what I was aiming to do by taking part in the distribution of flyers today.
Nobody has been aggressive in telling people they need to support the campaign from what I've seen. People disagree of course but that's certainly not a green light for any verbal abuse to volunteers who also care a lot about the club - just show it in a different way.
Intrigued by this "only going to end one way" thing though.
Just home after a day on the juice and Five Finger Death Punch at Wembley (I'm mad me). Handing out leaflets was interesting - about half the punters made eye contact and took one. The other half either looked terribly embarrassed and veered away or sauntered past looking above it all. I had two whisper that they were 'the 98%' and I hope they enjoyed the game today because it was our season in microcosm. It really isn't going to end well and those who are satisfied with the way things are going are blind and will be like reformed smokers once the game's up. In the ground I thought the show on two minutes made the point that it's far more than 2% but let's face it, 30% didn't even bother coming today. I'd like to try Katrien's rose-tinted glasses on to see if it fills the stadium up. The Ipswich fans riposte of 'your support is fucking shit" was spot on. Based on today, it could all be too late, and those who have been duped by fresh paint and new seats and investment in selling players on will live to rue the day.
I'm part of the 30% Kids footy training was gonna make it tight to get there so I took the easy option and i had an appointment with Santa at Bluewater I mean ffffs Bluewater on a Saturday is more appealing than Charlton has it really come to this !!!
Not forced upon but the view is stated above quite clearly, that if you dont see it your blind, you will live to rue the day, its being force fed if not forced upon there is no choice to ignore, without being told your wrong,
I watched it tonight on the TV, we played shit we lost, but I thought the whole protest looked disjointed and not supported by many at all infact it seemed like a lot of good hard effort went in to it but was lost because there were pockets of fans who looked like they believed more people near them felt the same and when the support around them never stood, they looked alone and embarrassed,
I dont know how that will change if it will at all but there needs to be a re think and a structure to match the efforts and Imo the focus shouldnt be on protesting but getting fans on board with the points being made
Then when support is larger and more widespread then look at protests
Just home after a day on the juice and Five Finger Death Punch at Wembley (I'm mad me). Handing out leaflets was interesting - about half the punters made eye contact and took one. The other half either looked terribly embarrassed and veered away or sauntered past looking above it all. I had two whisper that they were 'the 98%' and I hope they enjoyed the game today because it was our season in microcosm. It really isn't going to end well and those who are satisfied with the way things are going are blind and will be like reformed smokers once the game's up. In the ground I thought the show on two minutes made the point that it's far more than 2% but let's face it, 30% didn't even bother coming today. I'd like to try Katrien's rose-tinted glasses on to see if it fills the stadium up. The Ipswich fans riposte of 'your support is fucking shit" was spot on. Based on today, it could all be too late, and those who have been duped by fresh paint and new seats and investment in selling players on will live to rue the day.
Hilarious. They whispered to you that they were the 98%. But yet others giving out leaflets were told to fuck off?
STs not turning up doesnt make much difference, visual demos, food/ merch strike will hurt
Course it will. By sitting in your seat it gives the impression you are consenting to the way the club is being run regardless of whether you hold a poster up for a minute or not. Boycotting sends the message bluntly and is more blatant than turning up and not buying hot dogs.
Attending is enabling them to carry on with the current strategy as it is.
I reckon the attendance is 8/9,000 in home areas today, I don't think an organised boycott would really take those numbers down much more.
Well if that is the case and 8000 are happy with the way things are then I really fear for the future under this current lot. We'll be a Millwall that can't win derbies.
I'm not sure that going to a football match automatically equals approving of the way the club is being run
no but it does show what mugs we are by being prepared to go, regardless of the shit being dished out by board, manager and players.
it makes me laugh, some guy posted on another boycott thread, that if anybody tried to stop him getting into the valley, they better have a bloody good dentist.
fuck are some people that desperate that they continue to want to watch this shit unfold? truly sad and complete mugs!
Just home after a day on the juice and Five Finger Death Punch at Wembley (I'm mad me). Handing out leaflets was interesting - about half the punters made eye contact and took one. The other half either looked terribly embarrassed and veered away or sauntered past looking above it all. I had two whisper that they were 'the 98%' and I hope they enjoyed the game today because it was our season in microcosm. It really isn't going to end well and those who are satisfied with the way things are going are blind and will be like reformed smokers once the game's up. In the ground I thought the show on two minutes made the point that it's far more than 2% but let's face it, 30% didn't even bother coming today. I'd like to try Katrien's rose-tinted glasses on to see if it fills the stadium up. The Ipswich fans riposte of 'your support is fucking shit" was spot on. Based on today, it could all be too late, and those who have been duped by fresh paint and new seats and investment in selling players on will live to rue the day.
Mate, I'll try and post more tomorrow about, like you say, it isn't going to end well. Had a cracking night out tonight but all I can think of before bed is what a shitty Charlton day I found it, for loads of different reasons. People are pinning their colours to different masts and the level of division brewing is going to destroy us.
Alot of loyal fans are getting the hump with all this black and white crap and shoving leaflets under your nose this is going to end only one way.
So go organise a love-in with Katrien, Murray and Roly if you think everything is so rosy. You never know, KM might even chuck you some of the loan transfer budget that they didn't bother to spend so you can buy a nice 'WE LOVE YOU KATRIEN' banner.
Not forced upon but the view is stated above quite clearly, that if you dont see it your blind, you will live to rue the day, its being force fed if not forced upon there is no choice to ignore, without being told your wrong,
I watched it tonight on the TV, we played shit we lost, but I thought the whole protest looked disjointed and not supported by many at all infact it seemed like a lot of good hard effort went in to it but was lost because there were pockets of fans who looked like they believed more people near them felt the same and when the support around them never stood, they looked alone and embarrassed,
I dont know how that will change if it will at all but there needs to be a re think and a structure to match the efforts and Imo the focus shouldnt be on protesting but getting fans on board with the points being made
Then when support is larger and more widespread then look at protests
Totally disagree don't know how it came over on TV to be honest don't care, the (lack of ) numbers in the ground showed how our support is going.
To get circa 50% holding up the poster at Charlton shows how pissed off people are and people at the ground who had not previously heard about the campaign were certainly talking about it!
STs not turning up doesnt make much difference, visual demos, food/ merch strike will hurt
Course it will. By sitting in your seat it gives the impression you are consenting to the way the club is being run regardless of whether you hold a poster up for a minute or not. Boycotting sends the message bluntly and is more blatant than turning up and not buying hot dogs.
Attending is enabling them to carry on with the current strategy as it is.
Agree. I think a boycott has to be considered at least. For what its worth I am currently boycotting. Personal circumstances contribute to that but after the Brentford match and the subsequent farcical managerial appointment I have no desire to waste my time and money on dragging my disillusioned arse up to SE7. Sad, after 20 years of being a regular attendee.
Not forced upon but the view is stated above quite clearly, that if you dont see it your blind, you will live to rue the day, its being force fed if not forced upon there is no choice to ignore, without being told your wrong,
I watched it tonight on the TV, we played shit we lost, but I thought the whole protest looked disjointed and not supported by many at all infact it seemed like a lot of good hard effort went in to it but was lost because there were pockets of fans who looked like they believed more people near them felt the same and when the support around them never stood, they looked alone and embarrassed,
I dont know how that will change if it will at all but there needs to be a re think and a structure to match the efforts and Imo the focus shouldnt be on protesting but getting fans on board with the points being made
Then when support is larger and more widespread then look at protests
Totally disagree don't know how it came over on TV to be honest don't care, the (lack of ) numbers in the ground showed how our support is going.
To get circa 50% g up the poster at Charlton shows how pissed off people are and people at the ground who had not previously heard about the campaign were certainly talking about it!
The vast majority of those holding them up were in the nth stand, most were already aware of the protest as the demographic fan base up there is one that uses social media and voice their opinions on it, for tie protest to work correctly you need more than those fans
Ignoring the rude and agressive comments to the people handing them out,
acknowledgement of the volunteers experience on the day and there is a very large number of fans who just dont agree and dont want to have others telling them, they dont care enough, their blind to the truth or they can have a love in with Km,
From the begining I said the divisions in the fan base is the biggest obstacle to over come, and not solely getting the point across to km and Rd,
If that doesn't get resolved the next leaflet drop I can see someone reporting back a more physical response being aimed towards them
Theres those in protest who want different outcomes, let alone outside of that, focus on the hearts and minds and then see, but the biggest acceptance needs to be that this will take a long time, just because it might mean the work and message is not so visible but it will be just as important
Just home after a day on the juice and Five Finger Death Punch at Wembley (I'm mad me). Handing out leaflets was interesting - about half the punters made eye contact and took one. The other half either looked terribly embarrassed and veered away or sauntered past looking above it all. I had two whisper that they were 'the 98%' and I hope they enjoyed the game today because it was our season in microcosm. It really isn't going to end well and those who are satisfied with the way things are going are blind and will be like reformed smokers once the game's up. In the ground I thought the show on two minutes made the point that it's far more than 2% but let's face it, 30% didn't even bother coming today. I'd like to try Katrien's rose-tinted glasses on to see if it fills the stadium up. The Ipswich fans riposte of 'your support is fucking shit" was spot on. Based on today, it could all be too late, and those who have been duped by fresh paint and new seats and investment in selling players on will live to rue the day.
Hilarious. They whispered to you that they were the 98%. But yet others giving out leaflets were told to fuck off?
Typical bully boy tactics.
Well done DT.
Should I understand that @Cardinal Sin is quite on the large side?
I'm in the East Stand, close to the North and down the front so I didn't have a good view of how many in the East stood up. I took some extra posters in and chatted to the people around me. There were a few who were very anti, but what surprised me was the number who didn't know about it. Some took posters and had a read. When I stood up at 2 mins there were some around me - and then some without posters who stood up too. A few anti 'protest' around me seemed surprised that after the stand up minute there was immediately a change to supporting the team. I spoke to a friend at half time who was confused about why I was wearing a black and white scarf (I only saw two others with them in the East). I forget that most fans don't come on the forum and don't watch a 2 hour video of Katrien, Murray and JJ's meeting with fans reps (on my way into the ground someone saw me with a handful of posters and told me to get a life - just as well he didn't know I took time off work to watch the video!!)
This is a great start and has opened the eyes of many fans who hadn't really engaged with why things are going wrong with our club. Well done Joe.
PS was Hendo supporting the Black and White campaign?!
Regarding 'boycott" as a tactic, I would like to state quite clearly that this has been tried at other RD clubs and did not work.
It was tried at Ujpest, with gates falling to 1,000 with the other 1,500 gathering somewhere else. Nothing has changed in the direction of Ujpest since then.
It was tried at Jena. The Ultras boycotted. But there, where RD is a minority owner, people on the club side who are both members (fans) and part time employees, brought the ultras and RD together and resolved things by dialogue. The Ultras decided RD wasn't a capitalist pig after all, and that a hotel behind the stadium wasn't th end of Jena if it also meant the rest of the ground would be covered and made more atmospheric.
On the other hand, as far as I recall boycott was not a tactic used by the Standard fans.
I will double check all of that with our contacts at the three clubs but I am pretty sure of the facts above.
There there is our own experience, at Selhurst. We never went down the boycott route, although many conducted their own personal boycott. Heaven knows, I started to think about it. But had I done so, I would never have had a scruffy piece of paper thrust into my hand by a bloke I now know as @Airman Brown. Nor would I have met at the Sainsbury's end Steve Clarke and Craig Norris, who became Valley Party candidates, (and Steve is now CAST chair).There would not have been a Valley Party, if the most active fans had chosen boycott as the tool.
There's a good reason why that is true. Football is a shared experience. That's why we are all here reading this. By getting together we take strength from each other. I don't blame those who choose not to go, but as a tactic, it doesn't work with RD, and will reduce our strength as a group, as a voice.
Not forced upon but the view is stated above quite clearly, that if you dont see it your blind, you will live to rue the day, its being force fed if not forced upon there is no choice to ignore, without being told your wrong,
I watched it tonight on the TV, we played shit we lost, but I thought the whole protest looked disjointed and not supported by many at all infact it seemed like a lot of good hard effort went in to it but was lost because there were pockets of fans who looked like they believed more people near them felt the same and when the support around them never stood, they looked alone and embarrassed,
I dont know how that will change if it will at all but there needs to be a re think and a structure to match the efforts and Imo the focus shouldnt be on protesting but getting fans on board with the points being made
Then when support is larger and more widespread then look at protests
Totally disagree don't know how it came over on TV to be honest don't care, the (lack of ) numbers in the ground showed how our support is going.
To get circa 50% g up the poster at Charlton shows how pissed off people are and people at the ground who had not previously heard about the campaign were certainly talking about it!
The vast majority of those holding them up were in the nth stand, most were already aware of the protest as the demographic fan base up there is one that uses social media and voice their opinions on it, for tie protest to work correctly you need more than those fans
Ignoring the rude and agressive comments to the people handing them out,
acknowledgement of the volunteers experience on the day and there is a very large number of fans who just dont agree and dont want to have others telling them, they dont care enough, their blind to the truth or they can have a love in with Km,
From the begining I said the divisions in the fan base is the biggest obstacle to over come, and not solely getting the point across to km and Rd,
If that doesn't get resolved the next leaflet drop I can see someone reporting back a more physical response being aimed towards them
Theres those in protest who want different outcomes, let alone outside of that, focus on the hearts and minds and then see, but the biggest acceptance needs to be that this will take a long time, just because it might mean the work and message is not so visible but it will be just as important
I for one realise it will take a long time.
In football terms we've only got to the pre-match warm up.
Yet some are booing from the stands already and others are already analysing the result.
Fact is Stand up for the 2% worked. End of.
It disproved the CEO'S silly claim that it was only 2% who are unhappy.
It got publicity in the fan base. Even those who oppose it are discussing it and it will be a lot more than two weeks ago. And it got into the media. It worked. It was a success.
No one involved expected 100% of people to know about it or join in but that seems to be the bar being set by critics.
Spell it out is 6 weeks old. That's all. Put it in that perspective.
It's outgrown it's internet start in life and now exists in the real world.
It's also found a new champion and leader. My John the Baptist role is diminishing to just spreading the word. The miracle of the 10k leaflets has been seen.
Watching the crowd arrive yesterday there was a surprisingly large number of black and scarves - well into three figures.
When man utd did the green and yellow I thought as a campaign it was such a non intrusive snd poignant display of dissatisfaction, whilst the frame work is being built, Imo this should be the focus publicly and work on how the message is dekivered, ckear objectives and alternative investment to entice change be found, that never impacted on the support around them or towards the team
We'll said Henners and well done to all those who helped get this out there, keep up the good work. I don't see how anyone can form firm opinions or make judgements from watching on television, you had to be there before during and after the game to get a proper feel for the success or otherwise of the protest. SIO IN B&W series 1 part 2 mission accomplished.
Watching the crowd arrive yesterday there was a surprisingly large number of black and scarves - well into three figures.
When man utd did the green and yellow I thought as a campaign it was such a non intrusive snd poignant display of dissatisfaction, whilst the frame work is being built, Imo this should be the focus publicly and work on how the message is dekivered, ckear objectives and alternative investment to entice change be found, that never impacted on the support around them or towards the team
You mean like the Spell It Out In Black and White Campaign then?
Not forced upon but the view is stated above quite clearly, that if you dont see it your blind, you will live to rue the day, its being force fed if not forced upon there is no choice to ignore, without being told your wrong,
I watched it tonight on the TV, we played shit we lost, but I thought the whole protest looked disjointed and not supported by many at all infact it seemed like a lot of good hard effort went in to it but was lost because there were pockets of fans who looked like they believed more people near them felt the same and when the support around them never stood, they looked alone and embarrassed,
I dont know how that will change if it will at all but there needs to be a re think and a structure to match the efforts and Imo the focus shouldnt be on protesting but getting fans on board with the points being made
Then when support is larger and more widespread then look at protests
Totally disagree don't know how it came over on TV to be honest don't care, the (lack of ) numbers in the ground showed how our support is going.
To get circa 50% g up the poster at Charlton shows how pissed off people are and people at the ground who had not previously heard about the campaign were certainly talking about it!
The vast majority of those holding them up were in the nth stand, most were already aware of the protest as the demographic fan base up there is one that uses social media and voice their opinions on it, for tie protest to work correctly you need more than those fans
Ignoring the rude and agressive comments to the people handing them out,
acknowledgement of the volunteers experience on the day and there is a very large number of fans who just dont agree and dont want to have others telling them, they dont care enough, their blind to the truth or they can have a love in with Km,
From the begining I said the divisions in the fan base is the biggest obstacle to over come, and not solely getting the point across to km and Rd,
If that doesn't get resolved the next leaflet drop I can see someone reporting back a more physical response being aimed towards them
Theres those in protest who want different outcomes, let alone outside of that, focus on the hearts and minds and then see, but the biggest acceptance needs to be that this will take a long time, just because it might mean the work and message is not so visible but it will be just as important
Like you NLA I wasn't there and watched the game on the box. I would take issue with your opinion on the effectiveness of the protest, particularly your comments that it looked "disjointed", "not supported by many" and that those taking part looked "alone and embarrassed". You might be right, those that were there say otherwise, but based on the 5-10 seconds of tv coverage you can't say with any degree of certainty that it failed in its purpose and those behind it need to go back to the drawing board to get more supporters on board.
I might be wrong, but I understood it to be a very specific protest demonstrating KM was very wrong to dismiss out of hand the recent concerns raised as the rantings of a very small minority of supporters. If only 2% joined in yesterday she would have a point, but even with the limited coverage on the tele it was clear there were more than that showing their displeasure at the current situation.
Not forced upon but the view is stated above quite clearly, that if you dont see it your blind, you will live to rue the day, its being force fed if not forced upon there is no choice to ignore, without being told your wrong,
I watched it tonight on the TV, we played shit we lost, but I thought the whole protest looked disjointed and not supported by many at all infact it seemed like a lot of good hard effort went in to it but was lost because there were pockets of fans who looked like they believed more people near them felt the same and when the support around them never stood, they looked alone and embarrassed,
I dont know how that will change if it will at all but there needs to be a re think and a structure to match the efforts and Imo the focus shouldnt be on protesting but getting fans on board with the points being made
Then when support is larger and more widespread then look at protests
Totally disagree don't know how it came over on TV to be honest don't care, the (lack of ) numbers in the ground showed how our support is going.
To get circa 50% g up the poster at Charlton shows how pissed off people are and people at the ground who had not previously heard about the campaign were certainly talking about it!
The vast majority of those holding them up were in the nth stand, most were already aware of the protest as the demographic fan base up there is one that uses social media and voice their opinions on it, for tie protest to work correctly you need more than those fans
Ignoring the rude and agressive comments to the people handing them out,
acknowledgement of the volunteers experience on the day and there is a very large number of fans who just dont agree and dont want to have others telling them, they dont care enough, their blind to the truth or they can have a love in with Km,
From the begining I said the divisions in the fan base is the biggest obstacle to over come, and not solely getting the point across to km and Rd,
If that doesn't get resolved the next leaflet drop I can see someone reporting back a more physical response being aimed towards them
Theres those in protest who want different outcomes, let alone outside of that, focus on the hearts and minds and then see, but the biggest acceptance needs to be that this will take a long time, just because it might mean the work and message is not so visible but it will be just as important
I for one realise it will take a long time.
In football terms we've only got to the pre-match warm up.
Yet some are booing from the stands already and others are already analysing the result.
Fact is Stand up for the 2% worked. End of.
It disproved the CEO'S silly claim that it was only 2% who are unhappy.
It got publicity in the fan base. Even those who oppose it are discussing it and it will be a lot more than two weeks ago. And it got into the media. It worked. It was a success.
No one involved expected 100% of people to know about it or join in but that seems to be the bar being set by critics.
Spell it out is 6 weeks old. That's all. Put it in that perspective.
It's outgrown it's internet start in life and now exists in the real world.
It's also found a new champion and leader. My John the Baptist role is diminishing to just spreading the word. The miracle of the 10k leaflets has been seen.
Just home after a day on the juice and Five Finger Death Punch at Wembley (I'm mad me). Handing out leaflets was interesting - about half the punters made eye contact and took one. The other half either looked terribly embarrassed and veered away or sauntered past looking above it all. I had two whisper that they were 'the 98%' and I hope they enjoyed the game today because it was our season in microcosm. It really isn't going to end well and those who are satisfied with the way things are going are blind and will be like reformed smokers once the game's up. In the ground I thought the show on two minutes made the point that it's far more than 2% but let's face it, 30% didn't even bother coming today. I'd like to try Katrien's rose-tinted glasses on to see if it fills the stadium up. The Ipswich fans riposte of 'your support is fucking shit" was spot on. Based on today, it could all be too late, and those who have been duped by fresh paint and new seats and investment in selling players on will live to rue the day.
Hilarious. They whispered to you that they were the 98%. But yet others giving out leaflets were told to fuck off?
Typical bully boy tactics.
Well done DT.
He said that he had to whisper not that they whispered!
Made the point of trying to be friendly and courteous giving out leaflets and explaining. Still got a couple of 'f*** off' and 'f*** your protests' which I suspect is easy directing at me but would have been entertaining directing to someone like @Cardinal Sin.
Best retort I got was 'no thank you. I know about football and you don't'.
98% were supportive though.
Really is alarming watching the crowd filter through for 90 mins realising just how old our support is (no offence to anyone).
Personally I feel the club is dying on its arse and that the very small level of U30s we have going will continue to drift away. Once the older numbers go, we won't be replacing in anywhere near the same numbers.
That's DJ Lady T's core fanbase you're talking about there.
@nla I haven't watched it back on Sky yet, being there to see it once was bad enough, but I suspect the cameras didn't pick up the numbers who were holding up the leaflets in the East Stand. It certainly wasn't just the Upper North.
I could only get there for kickoff yesterday, but very happy to take a leaflet from @AFKABartram and thought it was a very well articulated piece that has raised awareness amongst the non-social media fans.
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Yes, it is strange.
Nobody has been aggressive in telling people they need to support the campaign from what I've seen. People disagree of course but that's certainly not a green light for any verbal abuse to volunteers who also care a lot about the club - just show it in a different way.
Intrigued by this "only going to end one way" thing though.
Kids footy training was gonna make it tight to get there so I took the easy option and i had an appointment with Santa at Bluewater
I mean ffffs Bluewater on a Saturday is more appealing than Charlton has it really come to this !!!
I watched it tonight on the TV, we played shit we lost, but I thought the whole protest looked disjointed and not supported by many at all infact it seemed like a lot of good hard effort went in to it but was lost because there were pockets of fans who looked like they believed more people near them felt the same and when the support around them never stood, they looked alone and embarrassed,
I dont know how that will change if it will at all but there needs to be a re think and a structure to match the efforts and Imo the focus shouldnt be on protesting but getting fans on board with the points being made
Then when support is larger and more widespread then look at protests
Typical bully boy tactics.
Well done DT.
it makes me laugh, some guy posted on another boycott thread, that if anybody tried to stop him getting into the valley, they better have a bloody good dentist.
fuck are some people that desperate that they continue to want to watch this shit unfold? truly sad and complete mugs!
To get circa 50% holding up the poster at Charlton shows how pissed off people are and people at the ground who had not previously heard about the campaign were certainly talking about it!
The vast majority of those holding them up were in the nth stand, most were already aware of the protest as the demographic fan base up there is one that uses social media and voice their opinions on it, for tie protest to work correctly you need more than those fans
Ignoring the rude and agressive comments to the people handing them out,
acknowledgement of the volunteers experience on the day and there is a very large number of fans who just dont agree and dont want to have others telling them, they dont care enough, their blind to the truth or they can have a love in with Km,
From the begining I said the divisions in the fan base is the biggest obstacle to over come, and not solely getting the point across to km and Rd,
If that doesn't get resolved the next leaflet drop I can see someone reporting back a more physical response being aimed towards them
Theres those in protest who want different outcomes, let alone outside of that, focus on the hearts and minds and then see, but the biggest acceptance needs to be that this will take a long time, just because it might mean the work and message is not so visible but it will be just as important
This is a great start and has opened the eyes of many fans who hadn't really engaged with why things are going wrong with our club. Well done Joe.
PS was Hendo supporting the Black and White campaign?!
It was tried at Ujpest, with gates falling to 1,000 with the other 1,500 gathering somewhere else. Nothing has changed in the direction of Ujpest since then.
It was tried at Jena. The Ultras boycotted. But there, where RD is a minority owner, people on the club side who are both members (fans) and part time employees, brought the ultras and RD together and resolved things by dialogue. The Ultras decided RD wasn't a capitalist pig after all, and that a hotel behind the stadium wasn't th end of Jena if it also meant the rest of the ground would be covered and made more atmospheric.
On the other hand, as far as I recall boycott was not a tactic used by the Standard fans.
I will double check all of that with our contacts at the three clubs but I am pretty sure of the facts above.
There there is our own experience, at Selhurst. We never went down the boycott route, although many conducted their own personal boycott. Heaven knows, I started to think about it. But had I done so, I would never have had a scruffy piece of paper thrust into my hand by a bloke I now know as @Airman Brown. Nor would I have met at the Sainsbury's end Steve Clarke and Craig Norris, who became Valley Party candidates, (and Steve is now CAST chair).There would not have been a Valley Party, if the most active fans had chosen boycott as the tool.
There's a good reason why that is true. Football is a shared experience. That's why we are all here reading this. By getting together we take strength from each other. I don't blame those who choose not to go, but as a tactic, it doesn't work with RD, and will reduce our strength as a group, as a voice.
In football terms we've only got to the pre-match warm up.
Yet some are booing from the stands already and others are already analysing the result.
Fact is Stand up for the 2% worked. End of.
It disproved the CEO'S silly claim that it was only 2% who are unhappy.
It got publicity in the fan base. Even those who oppose it are discussing it and it will be a lot more than two weeks ago. And it got into the media. It worked. It was a success.
No one involved expected 100% of people to know about it or join in but that seems to be the bar being set by critics.
Spell it out is 6 weeks old. That's all. Put it in that perspective.
It's outgrown it's internet start in life and now exists in the real world.
It's also found a new champion and leader. My John the Baptist role is diminishing to just spreading the word. The miracle of the 10k leaflets has been seen.
The campaign continues.
The aims of
Professionalism
Transparency
Business focus and
Teamwork
Remain
As has been said by numerous people, the true boycott will be on the opening day of next season when we have only sold 7000 season tickets.
I might be wrong, but I understood it to be a very specific protest demonstrating KM was very wrong to dismiss out of hand the recent concerns raised as the rantings of a very small minority of supporters. If only 2% joined in yesterday she would have a point, but even with the limited coverage on the tele it was clear there were more than that showing their displeasure at the current situation.
He said that he had to whisper not that they whispered!
I could only get there for kickoff yesterday, but very happy to take a leaflet from @AFKABartram and thought it was a very well articulated piece that has raised awareness amongst the non-social media fans.