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JBG on protests: It's not nice"
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Not forced to spend that £100 on the Brighton trip were you...?iamdan said:Cheers JBG. £100 for Brighton trip and it's my fault
Its your choice to go and because Football is still a sport its not guaranteed what'll happen during the match, Charlton could win so that your £100 has gone to good use, or they could lose (most likely will) which means your £100 was a waste.
No different to buying a lottery ticket!!3 -
ForeverAddickted said:
Not forced to spend that £100 on the Brighton trip were you...?iamdan said:Cheers JBG. £100 for Brighton trip and it's my fault
Its your choice to go and because Football is still a sport its not guaranteed what'll happen during the match, Charlton could win so that your £100 has gone to good use, or they could lose (most likely will) which means your £100 was a waste.
No different to buying a lottery ticket!!
Christ, I was only joking.
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Poor comments from him IMHO1
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Just a thought. Wouldn't it be good if we could explain our views and motives directly to the players, maybe via the skipper? JJ got some of that at the fans meeting but that was stage managed and to a degree sanitised. Twitter is too limited to get the nuances across. If JJ at least understands that it's not about the players or even the performances, it might help the team. No idea how we could do that though, or even if he would be willing/able to listen.1
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I think getting on the back of our most saleable asset is a fucking great idea.
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Ah apologies... I missed the tone of your message...iamdan said:ForeverAddickted said:
Not forced to spend that £100 on the Brighton trip were you...?iamdan said:Cheers JBG. £100 for Brighton trip and it's my fault
Its your choice to go and because Football is still a sport its not guaranteed what'll happen during the match, Charlton could win so that your £100 has gone to good use, or they could lose (most likely will) which means your £100 was a waste.
No different to buying a lottery ticket!!
Christ, I was only joking.1 -
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This sort of interview will only increase the number of empty seats. The fans who are protesting are the ones who care about the club, and have seen managers and players come and go. I'd say there were barely 10,000 there on saturday, and the reporter might have asked what it's like to play in front of an empty stadium, which it would have been if not for Ipswich's fantastic support. Easier to focus on the ones who are there rather than the ones who have had enough.1
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It does make me laugh how mentally weak most footballers appear, 'dont boo them it affects their game'. Contrast that with Tyson Fury, a fella with arguably less mental capacity than JBG, who fought in the back yard, so to speak, of the heavyweight world champion, ignored the home crowd bias, and won.
I'm sorry but I dont buy into any footballer blaming the crowd for their Teams abysmal (yet again) performance.
Anyway there wont be many left to boo they way they are playing.7 -
At some point between now and the start of next season he will have been sold for an undisclosed fee.
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Divide and conquer continuing to work for KM ...3
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This completely, most on the forum don't actually click on the link and read his words which really are not blaming the supporters. Please change the thread title.gilbertfilbert said:I think the OP should change the title of this thread. It simply isn't what JBG said.
The early start, the match on sky, all contributed to a really flat atmosphere, where as for the Sheff Wed game, the protests actually fired the crowd up, really got behind the team and the team had tons more commitment and energy.
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Very possible but selling one player (maybe two with Bergdich) with another seven incoming will hopefully be easier on the squad (not to mention will add depth) rather than 20 players leaving the club and only seven incomingHarryLime said:At some point between now and the start of next season he will have been sold for an undisclosed fee.
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Stupid thread title.
Unnecessary.
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I'd have thought taking that one in the bollocks was more of an explanation for his anonymous performance than the behaviour of the crowd.5
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To be fair, some people on here have argued the same point. To be even more fair, it sounds a lot as if he was misquoted and his remarks are taken out of context. Anyone with a twatter account should maybe check to see if all the wannabees who derided Watt when he went to Cardiff are now assaulting JBG.
The point made before that the fans want a better standard of player/manager is really in the interests of the current team, is a good one. But really, I think this is all taken out of its context.
If he'd whipped out his mobile in the second minute and taken a photo or two while smirking....well that would have been a different can of worms.0 -
Suspect the odds on winning the lottery are a tad better at the moment.....ForeverAddickted said:
Not forced to spend that £100 on the Brighton trip were you...?iamdan said:Cheers JBG. £100 for Brighton trip and it's my fault
Its your choice to go and because Football is still a sport its not guaranteed what'll happen during the match, Charlton could win so that your £100 has gone to good use, or they could lose (most likely will) which means your £100 was a waste.
No different to buying a lottery ticket!!
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Title amended with an actual quote.
Jeez.3 -
Daily Express/Mail type of headline from the News Shopper, whilst the South London Press is more realistic.0
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Pretty sure he's just feeling shit about not winning again like a lot of our first team will be and is desperate for anything that might give them the edge in a game. This could include:
- More vocal support from the crowd
along with
- Better/experienced players alongside
- More effort from all players
- A more tactically astute manager
- Deeper squad so we have options to bring on and change the way we play if needed3 -
Black and white campaign Is the answer2
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It's not just the fans who are protesting that care about the club mate. My family and I are protesting by not going. I don't want to give them another penny of my money. It will only be when the ground is empty, and income is down that they will give a toss. Just because I'm not wearing a black and white scarf, doesn't mean I don't care.andynelson said:This sort of interview will only increase the number of empty seats. The fans who are protesting are the ones who care about the club, and have seen managers and players come and go. I'd say there were barely 10,000 there on saturday, and the reporter might have asked what it's like to play in front of an empty stadium, which it would have been if not for Ipswich's fantastic support. Easier to focus on the ones who are there rather than the ones who have had enough.
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What was the question? What is this winter's must have look on the terraces?nth london addick said:Black and white campaign Is the answer
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The point of the scarves is that they are visable. The CEO, the media and other fans can see them. Staying away is less visable and more easily dismissed or ignored by the regime.braydex said:
It's not just the fans who are protesting that care about the club mate. My family and I are protesting by not going. I don't want to give them another penny of my money. It will only be when the ground is empty, and income is down that they will give a toss. Just because I'm not wearing a black and white scarf, doesn't mean I don't care.andynelson said:This sort of interview will only increase the number of empty seats. The fans who are protesting are the ones who care about the club, and have seen managers and players come and go. I'd say there were barely 10,000 there on saturday, and the reporter might have asked what it's like to play in front of an empty stadium, which it would have been if not for Ipswich's fantastic support. Easier to focus on the ones who are there rather than the ones who have had enough.
But watch this space. Spell It Out will have something you can join in with soon without coming to games or wearing a black and white scarf. Even NLA will be able to get involved : - )0 -
Well that sounds interesting and if I think it will have an impact then I'm happy to support it 100%.Henry Irving said:
The point of the scarves is that they are visable. The CEO, the media and other fans can see them. Staying away is less visable and more easily dismissed or ignored by the regime.braydex said:
It's not just the fans who are protesting that care about the club mate. My family and I are protesting by not going. I don't want to give them another penny of my money. It will only be when the ground is empty, and income is down that they will give a toss. Just because I'm not wearing a black and white scarf, doesn't mean I don't care.andynelson said:This sort of interview will only increase the number of empty seats. The fans who are protesting are the ones who care about the club, and have seen managers and players come and go. I'd say there were barely 10,000 there on saturday, and the reporter might have asked what it's like to play in front of an empty stadium, which it would have been if not for Ipswich's fantastic support. Easier to focus on the ones who are there rather than the ones who have had enough.
But watch this space. Spell It Out will have something you can join in with soon without coming to games or wearing a black and white scarf. Even NLA will be able to get involved : - )
Unfortunately, I disagree on your comment about the scarves. Watching the game on TV on Saturday, you couldn't tell that fans were wearing black and white scarves. However, it was more than evident that the ground was more than half empty. Can you imagine if the game had been played without a single Charlton fan attending the game? It would have been crystal clear to everyone that something is clearly not right, that fans are clearly not happy...plus the players wouldn't have been able to blame the fans for another inept performance on the pitch! Happy to agree to disagree but for me the only way is to stay away.....and in all fairness, I think an empty stadium is only a few home games away anyway, and for the record, that gives me no pleasure at all.1 -
Ah, this gets me all nostalgic, me. I remember the days of yore when singing "We should have stayed at the Valley" relentlessly produced season after season of poor performances, until we were nearly relegated to the conference.
Oh, wait...1 -
I think we need to be careful not to label those not protesting as 'not caring about the club'. Firstly it's not true, but it risks driving an unnecessary entrenchment that will only undermine the protests (just as misogynistic and xenophobic stuff does).andynelson said:This sort of interview will only increase the number of empty seats. The fans who are protesting are the ones who care about the club, and have seen managers and players come and go. I'd say there were barely 10,000 there on saturday, and the reporter might have asked what it's like to play in front of an empty stadium, which it would have been if not for Ipswich's fantastic support. Easier to focus on the ones who are there rather than the ones who have had enough.
I was delayed on the A2 so missed the 2nd minute, but watching it back it looked effective and got the message across well. As you suggest, perhaps a message just as meaningful was that sent by the number of empty seats. That speaks of a large silent group who simply can't get on with what they feel we've become under this (and perhaps the previous) regime. I do wish for the days when fans would turn up and back the team regardless, but I also understand why that's not happening today for many.
And in a pure footballing sense, whilst the crowd can make a difference the players have a responsibility regardless - lazy comments along the lines of "they don't help" also "won't help".4
.........oh hang on a minute! 
