It's the same lot it always is, don't worry about them they pick their victims before they agree to grab, they have come unstuck before In the ground and they will again, as fans we need to mob up and look after our own, no easy targets
Aye my comrade bully boy stewards let's see how brave you really are
As long as people stick together they can't do anything. The stewards will only go in when they can do so "peacefully" = less resistance/no one to get in the way = put up a fight
Aye my comrade bully boy stewards let's see how brave you really are
As long as people stick together they can't do anything. The stewards will only go in when they can do so "peacefully" = less resistance/no one to get in the way = put up a fight
This. My brother-in-law is head of security at Malmo FF and when I attended a game there I watched as flares were let off in the 'lively' section of home fans. I asked why nobody was going in to sort it out and he just stated the obvious, "would you go in there to sort out that bunch of ******s". Lesson learned in crowd control. Know when to pick your fights. A United front and nobody gets their banners or SEASON TICKETS taken away. Disgusting attitude the club is taking against fanatics filled with passion for this club. Our club belongs to every fan that takes an interest and travels home or away and cheers the team and is proud to sing "I'm Charlton till I die".
Roland might own the club on paper like a mortgage company owns the house I live in, but I'm the one that lives in it and looks after it and raises my family in it and every one I know views it as mine. The same can be said for a football club. It is us fans that have earned the right to say that the club is ours. Shame on you Roland and everyone you employ that buys in to your arrogance.
Look at what it provoked - bloody ridiculous. They could have left it in place, it was hardly offensive and ludicrous to claim it as a health and safety issue - but why not just confiscate it until the final whistle? Are they oblivious to the current mood? Do we have to make it more obvious?
They don't have any powers to retain supporters' property, so confiscating it at the final whistle doesn't make sense. I agree that the sensible thing would have been for them to ignore what was an innocuous message, especially in the context of what else is going on.
And LOL @ the YouTube channel it's been uploaded on.
The relevant bit is 0:37 - playing it at full screen it does look like there's a clear snatch/grab to pull him towards the staircase, done by the (supervisor?) in the blue jacket? Doesn't seem to be anything else though, unless there was initial confrontation prior to filming?
Just before the stewards come down, there was a single steward who came down and it was him that grabbed th lad around the scruff of the neck. People around the incident reacted to this and the steward left, the video is of the group of stewards that went in afterwards.
Any talk of `resisting' and `fighting back' will only result in the stewards being accompanied by the OB the next time they want someone out. Block them out, sit in their way, obstruct but don't raise any hands. Delay until the cameras pick it up.
What's Mick Everit got to say about this are they looking to up the anti because if they are they could well be in for a surprise.
Mick is one of a few proper charlton working match days, I reckon he is between a rock and a hard place on all this. Don't always judge a book by its cover either, my counsel is being kept.
What's Mick Everit got to say about this are they looking to up the anti because if they are they could well be in for a surprise.
Mick is one of a few proper charlton working match days, I reckon he is between a rock and a hard place on all this. Don't always judge a book by its cover either, my counsel is being kept.
Blimey - who swallowed the Bumper Book of Metaphors this morning then...
Look at what it provoked - bloody ridiculous. They could have left it in place, it was hardly offensive and ludicrous to claim it as a health and safety issue - but why not just confiscate it until the final whistle? Are they oblivious to the current mood? Do we have to make it more obvious?
They don't have any powers to retain supporters' property, so confiscating it at the final whistle doesn't make sense. I agree that the sensible thing would have been for them to ignore what was an innocuous message, especially in the context of what else is going on.
Until the final whistle, not at the final whistle!
Sorry but just can't see how people get banned or season tickets taken of them, do the have to show ID, give their full details when being thrown out, allow for their pockets to be searched for season tickets?
Also four fucking stewards allowed to waltz in and drag our own fan from OUR own end. What has football become. That wouldn't have happened on the Holmesdale terrace when there was 800 Charlton fans watching a home game let alone 3/4000 in the north stand at The Valley.
What's Mick Everit got to say about this are they looking to up the anti because if they are they could well be in for a surprise.
Mick is one of a few proper charlton working match days, I reckon he is between a rock and a hard place on all this. Don't always judge a book by its cover either, my counsel is being kept.
Blimey - who swallowed the Bumper Book of Metaphors this morning then...
Another fan today received an indefinite ban from the Club after 'endangering the crowd' due to his anti-RD leaflets..
I doubt that. Details? Stewards don't issue bans of any description.
@Airman Brown, I'm led to understand that the guy ejected had his season ticket confiscated, having been ejected under the instructions of the CEO. He has to wait until they write to him to hear his fate - given historic problems with the Royal Mail (!) that might as well be indefinite. Particularly since they'll almost certainly send it to Matt Wright or that chap with a banning order.
They Always call you up for a meeting, agree with DA9 mick is a proper Charlton man. The grab squad at Charlton have always been bullies, and like all bullies deep down are cowards,
Cpl has it bang on how can they be allowed to grab a home fan in a home end unchallenged,
Removal of the owners is on all fans shoulders as is stopping everything they try and do,
A set of stewards being blocked off by twenty other fans can not get to their victim
A set of stewards facing a whole block of angry men won't happen
The banner was not offensive. It is an outrage and cannot go without response. This is an act of a defeated regime. Where does it go from here? It can't evict and ban every one of us! I am beyond angry. If this was the CEO's order, she can't complain about her treatment, when she has ordered the assault of a peaceful fan making a legitimate and not offensive protest!
Door stewards are not supposed to be people picked off the street or firemen or prison warders doing a couple of hours on the black economy. They are supposed to be Security Industry Association licenced and be paying taxes and NI. Interesting to find out whether the bunch currently employed by the Belgians fit this criteria? The HMRC should investigate as well since this mob dont look to have any qualification.
Door stewards are not supposed to be people picked off the street or firemen or prison warders doing a couple of hours on the black economy. They are supposed to be Security Industry Association licenced and be paying taxes and NI. Interesting to find out whether the bunch currently employed by the Belgians fit this criteria? The HMRC should investigate as well since this mob dont look to have any qualification.
If HMRC did investigate them, then the club would also be liable for not declaring tax/NI, especially if these 'moonlighters' are paid in cash.
A banner protest all over the ground is a great idea, but how about one of the huge flags like the 'Killer' one (I think) that nearly all the Covered End or stands could all pass round? Nobody could be ejected for holding it as we would all be holding it!
Door stewards are not supposed to be people picked off the street or firemen or prison warders doing a couple of hours on the black economy. They are supposed to be Security Industry Association licenced and be paying taxes and NI. Interesting to find out whether the bunch currently employed by the Belgians fit this criteria? The HMRC should investigate as well since this mob dont look to have any qualification.
If they are SIA licenced don't they have to display said licence on their arms?
A banner protest all over the ground is a great idea, but how about one of the huge flags like the 'Killer' one (I think) that nearly all the Covered End or stands could all pass round? Nobody could be ejected for holding it as we would all be holding it!
Great Idea, the stewards would never get hold of that, how about 1 for the East, South and West stands, all being passed round at the sametime?
Well, they employ bar staff who have no idea what they are doing, presumably because they're cheap, so guess they do the same with stewards? Should be investigated!
Door stewards are not supposed to be people picked off the street or firemen or prison warders doing a couple of hours on the black economy. They are supposed to be Security Industry Association licenced and be paying taxes and NI. Interesting to find out whether the bunch currently employed by the Belgians fit this criteria? The HMRC should investigate as well since this mob dont look to have any qualification.
Best to complain about this direct to the Security Industry Authority via their website, it's their duty to investigate and respond to you. If we all complained, the club inc Katrien would have to answer/reply to them. More inconvenience for her and Roland. If found to be in the wrong, surely it could be escalated to the FA & Football League & Greenwich Council (Breach of operating licence)............
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Roland might own the club on paper like a mortgage company owns the house I live in, but I'm the one that lives in it and looks after it and raises my family in it and every one I know views it as mine. The same can be said for a football club. It is us fans that have earned the right to say that the club is ours. Shame on you Roland and everyone you employ that buys in to your arrogance.
Block them out, sit in their way, obstruct but don't raise any hands. Delay until the cameras pick it up.
Don't always judge a book by its cover either, my counsel is being kept.
Also four fucking stewards allowed to waltz in and drag our own fan from OUR own end. What has football become. That wouldn't have happened on the Holmesdale terrace when there was 800 Charlton fans watching a home game let alone 3/4000 in the north stand at The Valley.
Cpl has it bang on how can they be allowed to grab a home fan in a home end unchallenged,
Removal of the owners is on all fans shoulders as is stopping everything they try and do,
A set of stewards being blocked off by twenty other fans can not get to their victim
A set of stewards facing a whole block of angry men won't happen
Stick together don't be afraid to defend your own