Who on earth is the woman talking about people "misinterpretating" [sic] KM's Dublin comments?
Don't know who she is, but the fact the Katrien needs her staff to stuck up for her because she's too thick to defend herself (not too mention being in an indefensible position)just further demonstrates how out of her depth she is.
I've had to go in to a meeting so I haven't got that far; is she the one sitting next to "Tony The Testicle"? She looked pretty tasty.
Fully agree with you!!
But no, it's not her but the one sitting next to her.
I haven't read the comments on here for a few hours, as I've just watched/listened to the meeting in full.
All I will say, is a massive thank-you to Rikofold, who concisely & patiently continues to put forward the views of the vast majority of Charlton fans.
Ian Wallis also had a good go as did the lady from the reminiscent group.
THEY ARE STILL NOT LISTENING.
Rikofold, I salute you, you have the patience of Job.
"There are none so deaf than those who do not want to hear".
After watching the video there still appears to be a huge gulf between the fans and the management. A lot of uncomfortable silences. I still find it difficult to believe anything they say; the management do not appear to be "open" and seem to be defensive and woolly in their answers to important questions. Keeping the fans in the dark. (eg net investment in players; precisely defining the individual projects where the owner's millions have already been spent; a clear explanation about the plans for the Jimmy Seed stand). Hardly condusive to building trust.
All their talk about wanting to improve the communications is just utter bullshit.
They have been in charge for 2 years and as far as I am concerned they have still not been honest about their real intentions for the club. They want us to believe they have the long-term interest of the club at heart but continue, in practice, to run the club into the ground.
I do not trust these people and feel that we will not have a "football" club all the time they are here.
"whenever we sign a player its like hiring an employee, we don't know what they're going to be like"
Most sensible people would want to know exactly what they were buying, especially when spending the large sums needed to buy football players. That statement shows she is not fit to be in control of the player budget.
"whenever we sign a player its like hiring an employee, we don't know what they're going to be like"
Most sensible people would want to know exactly what they were buying, especially when spending the large sums needed to buy football players. That statement shows she is not fit to be in control of the player budget.
Chris Powell said on TalkSport that Curbs would speak to other people in the game to find out about a players personality and mentality before signing him, to make sure that he fitted in to the team.
I started to sympathise with the club and was happy some rumours were put clear. But the longer it went on the more angry I was getting. They are sooooo defensive! Seriously put our back 4 in a room with them to learn a thing or two!
That woman in the corner was shaking, it was a shame because she had very valid points but wasn't very good at communicating them, you could see her getting wound up, luckily the guy next to her ( don't know who he is but BRAVO!) he was the highlight for me. Was able to both support her and also better phrase what she was saying, but Katriens facial experssions and attitude is just unbelievable.
I had a meeting today with a massive corporations HR department regarding my departure, I told them some home truths not as a disgruntled employee but as a happy employee leaving for a lot more cash. And although they didn't like what they were hearing, they accepted they were detached from the ground and agreed the points raised were to help the company not to slander it.
The turnover of this company is billions so Cafc is a taxi cab company by comparison, and if I had got the response and reaction in that meeting that these fans representatives got I would have walked out halfway through.
They just don't fucking get it!!! They are treating this like they are the victim and we are the villains, they don't see the seriousness of the situation.
I'm raging I can't type anymore.
I can't wait to step up the protests! Prepare for all out war!
I will now read others thought perhaps I'm over reacting or reading it like the Dublin interview, and misunderstanding due to translation or what ever excuse she has this time!!
"whenever we sign a player its like hiring an employee, we don't know what they're going to be like"
Most sensible people would want to know exactly what they were buying, especially when spending the large sums needed to buy football players. That statement shows she is not fit to be in control of the player budget.
She says sometimes, not whenever and that is an important distinction. And what she says is true. Certainly some clubs or companies do a much better job than CAFC of making sure they hire the right person, but it is also true that background checks, interviews etc. can still miss things about a person that only come to light once you are working with them and really get to know them.
To be fair, I'm not sure the club have really signed any bad characters - Reza's commitment could, at times, be questioned and there are obviously a lot of rumours about Tony Watt, but have any of the others turned out to be just bad eggs? Players like Bauer, Big Mak and Astrit seem to have settled into the dressing room very well in terms of their personality.
The question on how well they'll adapt to English football physically is harder to answer before they arrive. The point about having a track record of playing lots of games in a season is a good start though. It shouldn't have taken this long for them to realise and had they had more people with english league experience around the place they could have already known it, but I don't see that response is particularly controversial.
Lets also not over romanticise it and pretend every single Curbishley signing was an roaring success - we had a fair few flops to go with the numerous gems, even more so once we started dipping into foreign markets.
The managerial appointments stand up far less well to scrutiny.
Rikofold, If that was you, sitting next to Christine Lawrie, I have had my opinion of you changed. I have never met you, but have read your comments on here, and other people condemn you. I built up a picture of you in my mind, (not physical), but personality wise, I am now ready to admit I had you wrong. You were the only person that asked CLEARLY and CONCISELY questions we wanted answered. I had the volume up and still could not hear everyone's answers (probably old age), but I understood everything you said and was pleased when you never got the answer you wanted, you persisted. With fans like you in the management faces, we might eventually get somewhere. Well done
Having rad the responses since the video, well done Christine and well done rickfold
I have withdrew valley gold membership, but with you fighting the corner I have faith you have its best interest at heart. I will also back pay by means of donation when it is official the club won't get valley gold money and or they leave.
Christine I felt sorry for you, her treatment of you was shocking! You deserve more respect, and you have mine! Don't be scared to tell her exactly what you think!
The club do not have a clue ( just listen to the responses to the ticket office and POTY). When you listen the club responses you have to remind yourself we are 2nd bottom, the way they boast about their investment you would think we are on the brink of the Champions League.
I started to sympathise with the club and was happy some rumours were put clear. But the longer it went on the more angry I was getting. They are sooooo defensive! Seriously put our back 4 in a room with them to learn a thing or two!
That woman in the corner was shaking, it was a shame because she had very valid points but wasn't very good at communicating them, you could see her getting wound up, luckily the guy next to her ( don't know who he is but BRAVO!) he was the highlight for me. Was able to both support her and also better phrase what she was saying, but Katriens facial experssions and attitude is just unbelievable.
I had a meeting today with a massive corporations HR department regarding my departure, I told them some home truths not as a disgruntled employee but as a happy employee leaving for a lot more cash. And although they didn't like what they were hearing, they accepted they were detached from the ground and agreed the points raised were to help the company not to slander it.
The turnover of this company is billions so Cafc is a taxi cab company by comparison, and if I had got the response and reaction in that meeting that these fans representatives got I would have walked out halfway through.
They just don't fucking get it!!! They are treating this like they are the victim and we are the villains, they don't see the seriousness of the situation.
I'm raging I can't type anymore.
I can't wait to step up the protests! Prepare for all out war!
I will now read others thought perhaps I'm over reacting or reading it like the Dublin interview, and misunderstanding due to translation or what ever excuse she has this time!!
What they say though is that they are "rumours", which is a meaningless deflection. There are plenty of people who know the truth about the intent to hire the Ujpest manager, for example, and she says it is a "rumour". Indeed it is, but it's also true.
Just watched it. My main concern is the fact that KM and the finance officer (David Joyes?) were both banging on about 'breaking even' and although the possibility of this ever happening was pointed out (as we would all agree) as being obviously remote by Rikofold, they are actually serious. This is not new but to openly repeat this enthusiastically in public is worrying. This will lead us to years of grief until they (well RD) change their tactics or hopefully sell up. As usual Katrien was disingenuous with most of her answers but did not come out with an obvious (new) lie except when she said that the Ujpest manager taking over was a rumour as she had (maybe with others) made a point to RD of vetoing his new 'idea'!
I started to sympathise with the club and was happy some rumours were put clear. But the longer it went on the more angry I was getting. They are sooooo defensive! Seriously put our back 4 in a room with them to learn a thing or two!
That woman in the corner was shaking, it was a shame because she had very valid points but wasn't very good at communicating them, you could see her getting wound up, luckily the guy next to her ( don't know who he is but BRAVO!) he was the highlight for me. Was able to both support her and also better phrase what she was saying, but Katriens facial experssions and attitude is just unbelievable.
I had a meeting today with a massive corporations HR department regarding my departure, I told them some home truths not as a disgruntled employee but as a happy employee leaving for a lot more cash. And although they didn't like what they were hearing, they accepted they were detached from the ground and agreed the points raised were to help the company not to slander it.
The turnover of this company is billions so Cafc is a taxi cab company by comparison, and if I had got the response and reaction in that meeting that these fans representatives got I would have walked out halfway through.
They just don't fucking get it!!! They are treating this like they are the victim and we are the villains, they don't see the seriousness of the situation.
I'm raging I can't type anymore.
I can't wait to step up the protests! Prepare for all out war!
I will now read others thought perhaps I'm over reacting or reading it like the Dublin interview, and misunderstanding due to translation or what ever excuse she has this time!!
What they say though is that they are "rumours", which is a meaningless deflection. There are plenty of people who know the truth about the intent to hire the Ujpest manager, for example, and she says it is a "rumour". Indeed it is, but it's also true.
Yes there body language and back tracking for want of a better expression started to make it more clear they were covering stuff up. They almost had me convinced, and some fans would watch this and say all is good again, no actually let me rephrase that!
If Katriens was removed from this video ALLOT of fans would be happier after this video!
Feeling disheartened after watching some of that and reading all the comments. How, really, do we get them to sell if they don't want to? They can ignore our protests.
The club once again filled the room, with as many employees as they could, to deflect the awkward questions away from Katrien.
Katrien is hopelessly out of her depth and does not have the necessary experience to answer questions, without lying.
It's quite clear that the employees are following the lead of the owner and CEO, by being disingenuous with many of their answers. I suppose it is understandable that they back her.
Mick Everitt gave the game away at one point, when he rolled his eyes in disbelief, at the nonsense Meire was spouting.
The club obviously despise the fans and certainly do not want them at the POTY "do". This is why they are proposing to have it on a Saturday. Meire, being so well versed in restaurant etiquette, is more than aware that you don't go dressed to a football match in the same attire as an evening "do". The reason for including the CACT team is because, she knows that they will be fully supportive of the regime and it will reduce the amount of fans there. Divide and rule.
A massive thank-you to Rikofold who was superb and also to Christine and Ian Wallis, who did very well in the face of the rudeness, face pulling and curt replies of Katrien.
The woman is absolutely despicable and I despise her.
I know it is a common view that if Meire leaves, she will be replaced with another automan and it may well come to pass.
However, if she goes, it's possible that RD may finally sell up and go.
I positively now despise Murray for supporting the regime and will fight tooth and nail until Murray, Meire and Duchatelet have gone.
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But no, it's not her but the one sitting next to her.
After watching the video there still appears to be a huge gulf between the fans and the management. A lot of uncomfortable silences. I still find it difficult to believe anything they say; the management do not appear to be "open" and seem to be defensive and woolly in their answers to important questions. Keeping the fans in the dark. (eg net investment in players; precisely defining the individual projects where the owner's millions have already been spent; a clear explanation about the plans for the Jimmy Seed stand). Hardly condusive to building trust.
All their talk about wanting to improve the communications is just utter bullshit.
They have been in charge for 2 years and as far as I am concerned they have still not been honest about their real intentions for the club. They want us to believe they have the long-term interest of the club at heart but continue, in practice, to run the club into the ground.
I do not trust these people and feel that we will not have a "football" club all the time they are here.
If I was behind a takeover, I'd get rid of the entire SMT.
Most sensible people would want to know exactly what they were buying, especially when spending the large sums needed to buy football players. That statement shows she is not fit to be in control of the player budget.
Wish she was as ugly as her behavior.
She hasn't got a F***** clue!
I started to sympathise with the club and was happy some rumours were put clear. But the longer it went on the more angry I was getting. They are sooooo defensive! Seriously put our back 4 in a room with them to learn a thing or two!
That woman in the corner was shaking, it was a shame because she had very valid points but wasn't very good at communicating them, you could see her getting wound up, luckily the guy next to her ( don't know who he is but BRAVO!) he was the highlight for me. Was able to both support her and also better phrase what she was saying, but Katriens facial experssions and attitude is just unbelievable.
I had a meeting today with a massive corporations HR department regarding my departure, I told them some home truths not as a disgruntled employee but as a happy employee leaving for a lot more cash. And although they didn't like what they were hearing, they accepted they were detached from the ground and agreed the points raised were to help the company not to slander it.
The turnover of this company is billions so Cafc is a taxi cab company by comparison, and if I had got the response and reaction in that meeting that these fans representatives got I would have walked out halfway through.
They just don't fucking get it!!! They are treating this like they are the victim and we are the villains, they don't see the seriousness of the situation.
I'm raging I can't type anymore.
I can't wait to step up the protests! Prepare for all out war!
I will now read others thought perhaps I'm over reacting or reading it like the Dublin interview, and misunderstanding due to translation or what ever excuse she has this time!!
To be fair, I'm not sure the club have really signed any bad characters - Reza's commitment could, at times, be questioned and there are obviously a lot of rumours about Tony Watt, but have any of the others turned out to be just bad eggs? Players like Bauer, Big Mak and Astrit seem to have settled into the dressing room very well in terms of their personality.
The question on how well they'll adapt to English football physically is harder to answer before they arrive. The point about having a track record of playing lots of games in a season is a good start though. It shouldn't have taken this long for them to realise and had they had more people with english league experience around the place they could have already known it, but I don't see that response is particularly controversial.
Lets also not over romanticise it and pretend every single Curbishley signing was an roaring success - we had a fair few flops to go with the numerous gems, even more so once we started dipping into foreign markets.
The managerial appointments stand up far less well to scrutiny.
I have withdrew valley gold membership, but with you fighting the corner I have faith you have its best interest at heart. I will also back pay by means of donation when it is official the club won't get valley gold money and or they leave.
Christine I felt sorry for you, her treatment of you was shocking! You deserve more respect, and you have mine! Don't be scared to tell her exactly what you think!
The club do not have a clue ( just listen to the responses to the ticket office and POTY). When you listen the club responses you have to remind yourself we are 2nd bottom, the way they boast about their investment you would think we are on the brink of the Champions League.
As usual Katrien was disingenuous with most of her answers but did not come out with an obvious (new) lie except when she said that the Ujpest manager taking over was a rumour as she had (maybe with others) made a point to RD of vetoing his new 'idea'!
They almost had me convinced, and some fans would watch this and say all is good again, no actually let me rephrase that!
If Katriens was removed from this video ALLOT of fans would be happier after this video!
She is the protests biggest weapon!
Katrien is hopelessly out of her depth and does not have the necessary experience to answer questions, without lying.
It's quite clear that the employees are following the lead of the owner and CEO, by being disingenuous with many of their answers. I suppose it is understandable that they back her.
Mick Everitt gave the game away at one point, when he rolled his eyes in disbelief, at the nonsense Meire was spouting.
The club obviously despise the fans and certainly do not want them at the POTY "do". This is why they are proposing to have it on a Saturday. Meire, being so well versed in restaurant etiquette, is more than aware that you don't go dressed to a football match in the same attire as an evening "do". The reason for including the CACT team is because, she knows that they will be fully supportive of the regime and it will reduce the amount of fans there. Divide and rule.
A massive thank-you to Rikofold who was superb and also to Christine and Ian Wallis, who did very well in the face of the rudeness, face pulling and curt replies of Katrien.
The woman is absolutely despicable and I despise her.
I know it is a common view that if Meire leaves, she will be replaced with another automan and it may well come to pass.
However, if she goes, it's possible that RD may finally sell up and go.
I positively now despise Murray for supporting the regime and will fight tooth and nail until Murray, Meire and Duchatelet have gone.