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Will Trump become President?
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What really matters. We're happy. We're (largely) healthy. The sun will rise tomorrow just as it did today and yesterday.
Try to keep it civil. I promise you if I can, when this election could have direct results on me, you can find it in your hearts to do it too. We're all Charlton (sorry MillwallFan). Most of us are Britons. Some of us live in the States. But we're all human and we're all doing the best we can.
Goodnight everyone.13 -
Well done Donald..... Great speach too.1
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I commented about 50 pages back saying something along the lines of "it'll be like brexit, the bookies will get it wrong" and y'all laughed, if someone could find it and quote me so I can gloat it'd be appreciated.2
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You already are mate. Hope it turns out like you wish and the noisy minority are wrong.BR7_addick said:I commented about 50 pages back saying something along the lines of "it'll be like brexit, the bookies will get it wrong" and y'all laughed, if someone could find it and quote me so I can gloat it'd be appreciated.
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Grow up Leuth. I know this is a difficult time for you considering how focused you are on being this board's white knight but re-read what you just said to Greenie Junior and tell us honestly that you haven't been an absolute twonk thereLeuth said:
Why on earth would people not let off steam after learning that a narcissistic tyrant with no fucking clue about running a country is POTUS?LuckyReds said:
The reason behind the silent majority, ladies and gentleman.Leuth said:
Your industry's booming? I thought the fucking gyppo cunts from Romania, the Slavs, the fucking Eastern Menace had decimated it? At least you're getting political representation from men of the fucking people Farage and Trump, men of great conscience and notions of social equality. What sort of shakeup did you have in mind? Death camps for Muslims?Greenie Junior said:
I am, a lot richer. I've never ever been out of work under Tory government, my industry is booming and is only getting stronger.Exiled_Addick said:
And how has two terms of Tory government been working out for you? Feeling richer?Greenie Junior said:
This is just it though, labour is not for the working class. Not even close. They scream racist every time you bring up a genuine immigration related concern. I'm not silly enough to think that immigration is the cause of all problems, but it is a problem, I see it first hand quite often people being undercut for ridiculous prices from cheap Romanian work forces etc. Doesn't mean I want them sent home, just want things tightened up.Exiled_Addick said:
The Labour movement that gave a meaningful voice to left wing politics was all about working class folk fighting for change in their favour. Why would I, as a person whose political stance is generally left of centre, be scared of working class folk? I am one myself, as is my wife and all our family.Greenie Junior said:
Because the left are shitting themselves the realisation that us regular hard working, working class folk want and will get change is frightening to them and what do they do when they shit themselves and don't know what to say? They call namespalarsehater said:@TelMc32 no bother about the grammar it's early and no coffee yet, no issue with people having an opinion but why are they labelled idiots the same as brexit voters.
What I'm scared of is a world where people think that foreigners and ethnic minorities are all to blame for their problems and then vote for millionaires who've never done a hard days work in their life because they've swallowed the hate filled lies, and over simplistic solutions that have been spat at them with barely disguised disdain by yet another bunch of self serving politicians who are using the people to get what serves them best, not what serves the people best.
The left claim to be for the little people but when we've stood up to be counted and voted for change (brexit) labour cronies and other leftie, are trying to block it.
On my site, I don't know a single person whose voted for Labour, all ukip or Tory. Labour and the left don't represent the working class people one bit as far as i see it.
Mainstream politics has left the working classes behind, I don't disagree. the left has lost site of its roots and the right has never really been for the good of all. The growth in the gap between the haves and the have nots has continued under successive governments - New Labour, Lib Con coalition, Conservative. All three have failed to stop the trend.
I was against Brexit but it made more sense as a protest vote, even if I believe it will back fire on the very people who most hope it will change their lot in life. As I said above, my dislike for Trump is not about his right wing policies, not that I'd be a fan of them in al honesty, but it's about his social attitudes and it upsets me that so many people don't care more aboutbthatbside of things. Just like it upsets me that Brexit was used by some people as an excuse for racist behaviour that blackens the name of my country, of which I am proud.
Don't get me wrong I understand your point on trump, I'm glad he's not running over here cos he's a div, but he's the people's div. he's given a lot of people a lot of hope. Whether it comes to fruition I don't know. Yes people will vote for him and use it as an excuse for racist behaviour but you will always get things like that happening in any situation, it's the human race, unfortunately. People will hide their agendas with smoke screens.
World politics needs a big shake up, this, I feel, is undeniable and it looks like it's going to happen.
Why on earth would people not want to discuss issues when they get well thought out arguments like this back?11 -
Genuine question Daz. Even if it were a veiled dig, it would still be pertinent.Dazzler21 said:
Is that a genuine question or a veiled dig....Algarveaddick said:
What do you do that prevents you from being undercut by Romanians, whilst others are not able to GJ?Greenie Junior said:
I am, a lot richer. I've never ever been out of work under Tory government, my industry is booming and is only getting stronger.Exiled_Addick said:
And how has two terms of Tory government been working out for you? Feeling richer?Greenie Junior said:
This is just it though, labour is not for the working class. Not even close. They scream racist every time you bring up a genuine immigration related concern. I'm not silly enough to think that immigration is the cause of all problems, but it is a problem, I see it first hand quite often people being undercut for ridiculous prices from cheap Romanian work forces etc. Doesn't mean I want them sent home, just want things tightened up.Exiled_Addick said:
The Labour movement that gave a meaningful voice to left wing politics was all about working class folk fighting for change in their favour. Why would I, as a person whose political stance is generally left of centre, be scared of working class folk? I am one myself, as is my wife and all our family.Greenie Junior said:
Because the left are shitting themselves the realisation that us regular hard working, working class folk want and will get change is frightening to them and what do they do when they shit themselves and don't know what to say? They call namespalarsehater said:@TelMc32 no bother about the grammar it's early and no coffee yet, no issue with people having an opinion but why are they labelled idiots the same as brexit voters.
What I'm scared of is a world where people think that foreigners and ethnic minorities are all to blame for their problems and then vote for millionaires who've never done a hard days work in their life because they've swallowed the hate filled lies, and over simplistic solutions that have been spat at them with barely disguised disdain by yet another bunch of self serving politicians who are using the people to get what serves them best, not what serves the people best.
The left claim to be for the little people but when we've stood up to be counted and voted for change (brexit) labour cronies and other leftie, are trying to block it.
On my site, I don't know a single person whose voted for Labour, all ukip or Tory. Labour and the left don't represent the working class people one bit as far as i see it.
Mainstream politics has left the working classes behind, I don't disagree. the left has lost site of its roots and the right has never really been for the good of all. The growth in the gap between the haves and the have nots has continued under successive governments - New Labour, Lib Con coalition, Conservative. All three have failed to stop the trend.
I was against Brexit but it made more sense as a protest vote, even if I believe it will back fire on the very people who most hope it will change their lot in life. As I said above, my dislike for Trump is not about his right wing policies, not that I'd be a fan of them in al honesty, but it's about his social attitudes and it upsets me that so many people don't care more aboutbthatbside of things. Just like it upsets me that Brexit was used by some people as an excuse for racist behaviour that blackens the name of my country, of which I am proud.
Don't get me wrong I understand your point on trump, I'm glad he's not running over here cos he's a div, but he's the people's div. he's given a lot of people a lot of hope. Whether it comes to fruition I don't know. Yes people will vote for him and use it as an excuse for racist behaviour but you will always get things like that happening in any situation, it's the human race, unfortunately. People will hide their agendas with smoke screens.
World politics needs a big shake up, this, I feel, is undeniable and it looks like it's going to happen.0 -
What's Pence like?
For when Trump inevitably gets shot.1 -
His son, Barron, doesn't look bored by the whole event does he?
I can see him thinking "Oh Dad get on with it - I've got a Mortal Kombat game waiting for me". And Trump thinking much the same.
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Well, sure. What am I white-knighting this time, though? Eastern Europeans? The religion of Islam? The entire exploited working class? Seems like I'm white-knighting most of humanityGarrymanilow said:
Grow up Leuth. I know this is a difficult time for you considering how focused you are on being this board's white knight but re-read what you just said to Greenie Junior and tell us honestly that you haven't been an absolute twonk thereLeuth said:
Why on earth would people not let off steam after learning that a narcissistic tyrant with no fucking clue about running a country is POTUS?LuckyReds said:
The reason behind the silent majority, ladies and gentleman.Leuth said:
Your industry's booming? I thought the fucking gyppo cunts from Romania, the Slavs, the fucking Eastern Menace had decimated it? At least you're getting political representation from men of the fucking people Farage and Trump, men of great conscience and notions of social equality. What sort of shakeup did you have in mind? Death camps for Muslims?Greenie Junior said:
I am, a lot richer. I've never ever been out of work under Tory government, my industry is booming and is only getting stronger.Exiled_Addick said:
And how has two terms of Tory government been working out for you? Feeling richer?Greenie Junior said:
This is just it though, labour is not for the working class. Not even close. They scream racist every time you bring up a genuine immigration related concern. I'm not silly enough to think that immigration is the cause of all problems, but it is a problem, I see it first hand quite often people being undercut for ridiculous prices from cheap Romanian work forces etc. Doesn't mean I want them sent home, just want things tightened up.Exiled_Addick said:
The Labour movement that gave a meaningful voice to left wing politics was all about working class folk fighting for change in their favour. Why would I, as a person whose political stance is generally left of centre, be scared of working class folk? I am one myself, as is my wife and all our family.Greenie Junior said:
Because the left are shitting themselves the realisation that us regular hard working, working class folk want and will get change is frightening to them and what do they do when they shit themselves and don't know what to say? They call namespalarsehater said:@TelMc32 no bother about the grammar it's early and no coffee yet, no issue with people having an opinion but why are they labelled idiots the same as brexit voters.
What I'm scared of is a world where people think that foreigners and ethnic minorities are all to blame for their problems and then vote for millionaires who've never done a hard days work in their life because they've swallowed the hate filled lies, and over simplistic solutions that have been spat at them with barely disguised disdain by yet another bunch of self serving politicians who are using the people to get what serves them best, not what serves the people best.
The left claim to be for the little people but when we've stood up to be counted and voted for change (brexit) labour cronies and other leftie, are trying to block it.
On my site, I don't know a single person whose voted for Labour, all ukip or Tory. Labour and the left don't represent the working class people one bit as far as i see it.
Mainstream politics has left the working classes behind, I don't disagree. the left has lost site of its roots and the right has never really been for the good of all. The growth in the gap between the haves and the have nots has continued under successive governments - New Labour, Lib Con coalition, Conservative. All three have failed to stop the trend.
I was against Brexit but it made more sense as a protest vote, even if I believe it will back fire on the very people who most hope it will change their lot in life. As I said above, my dislike for Trump is not about his right wing policies, not that I'd be a fan of them in al honesty, but it's about his social attitudes and it upsets me that so many people don't care more aboutbthatbside of things. Just like it upsets me that Brexit was used by some people as an excuse for racist behaviour that blackens the name of my country, of which I am proud.
Don't get me wrong I understand your point on trump, I'm glad he's not running over here cos he's a div, but he's the people's div. he's given a lot of people a lot of hope. Whether it comes to fruition I don't know. Yes people will vote for him and use it as an excuse for racist behaviour but you will always get things like that happening in any situation, it's the human race, unfortunately. People will hide their agendas with smoke screens.
World politics needs a big shake up, this, I feel, is undeniable and it looks like it's going to happen.
Why on earth would people not want to discuss issues when they get well thought out arguments like this back?1 -
He's two bob.North Lower Neil said:What's Pence like?
For when Trump inevitably gets shot.8 -
Anyway. Thank heavens for Joe Root4
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(He'll get out now)1
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Yeah - was great the way he contradicted absolutely everything he said in the campaign. Respect for Clinton and the work she's done for America. Bringing together all races and religions. Finding common ground with other countries.Chippycafc said:Well done Donald..... Great speach too.
'Speech' by the way.
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Leicester City, Brexit and now Trump.
Just need Honey G for a massive four fold!!!5 -
Let's all point and laugh at America!0
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I really liked it, but.. Yeah. Not what I expected at all.WSS said:
Yeah - was great the way he contradicted absolutely everything he said in the campaign. Respect for Clinton and the work she's done for America. Bringing together all races and religions. Finding common ground with other countries.Chippycafc said:Well done Donald..... Great speach too.
'Speech' by the way.
It was almost as though he was going to stop at any minute and say "Just kidding. She was a criminal, and we will send her to prison! What are we going to build?!".3 -
You're not white-knighting anything today, you're just being a silly boy. You accused Greenie Junior of being in favour of Muslim death camps because he's happy to have made more money under a Conservative government. That's an arsehole move and you know it. Go to bed.Leuth said:
Well, sure. What am I white-knighting this time, though? Eastern Europeans? The religion of Islam? The entire exploited working class? Seems like I'm white-knighting most of humanityGarrymanilow said:
Grow up Leuth. I know this is a difficult time for you considering how focused you are on being this board's white knight but re-read what you just said to Greenie Junior and tell us honestly that you haven't been an absolute twonk thereLeuth said:
Why on earth would people not let off steam after learning that a narcissistic tyrant with no fucking clue about running a country is POTUS?LuckyReds said:
The reason behind the silent majority, ladies and gentleman.Leuth said:
Your industry's booming? I thought the fucking gyppo cunts from Romania, the Slavs, the fucking Eastern Menace had decimated it? At least you're getting political representation from men of the fucking people Farage and Trump, men of great conscience and notions of social equality. What sort of shakeup did you have in mind? Death camps for Muslims?Greenie Junior said:
I am, a lot richer. I've never ever been out of work under Tory government, my industry is booming and is only getting stronger.Exiled_Addick said:
And how has two terms of Tory government been working out for you? Feeling richer?Greenie Junior said:
This is just it though, labour is not for the working class. Not even close. They scream racist every time you bring up a genuine immigration related concern. I'm not silly enough to think that immigration is the cause of all problems, but it is a problem, I see it first hand quite often people being undercut for ridiculous prices from cheap Romanian work forces etc. Doesn't mean I want them sent home, just want things tightened up.Exiled_Addick said:
The Labour movement that gave a meaningful voice to left wing politics was all about working class folk fighting for change in their favour. Why would I, as a person whose political stance is generally left of centre, be scared of working class folk? I am one myself, as is my wife and all our family.Greenie Junior said:
Because the left are shitting themselves the realisation that us regular hard working, working class folk want and will get change is frightening to them and what do they do when they shit themselves and don't know what to say? They call namespalarsehater said:@TelMc32 no bother about the grammar it's early and no coffee yet, no issue with people having an opinion but why are they labelled idiots the same as brexit voters.
What I'm scared of is a world where people think that foreigners and ethnic minorities are all to blame for their problems and then vote for millionaires who've never done a hard days work in their life because they've swallowed the hate filled lies, and over simplistic solutions that have been spat at them with barely disguised disdain by yet another bunch of self serving politicians who are using the people to get what serves them best, not what serves the people best.
The left claim to be for the little people but when we've stood up to be counted and voted for change (brexit) labour cronies and other leftie, are trying to block it.
On my site, I don't know a single person whose voted for Labour, all ukip or Tory. Labour and the left don't represent the working class people one bit as far as i see it.
Mainstream politics has left the working classes behind, I don't disagree. the left has lost site of its roots and the right has never really been for the good of all. The growth in the gap between the haves and the have nots has continued under successive governments - New Labour, Lib Con coalition, Conservative. All three have failed to stop the trend.
I was against Brexit but it made more sense as a protest vote, even if I believe it will back fire on the very people who most hope it will change their lot in life. As I said above, my dislike for Trump is not about his right wing policies, not that I'd be a fan of them in al honesty, but it's about his social attitudes and it upsets me that so many people don't care more aboutbthatbside of things. Just like it upsets me that Brexit was used by some people as an excuse for racist behaviour that blackens the name of my country, of which I am proud.
Don't get me wrong I understand your point on trump, I'm glad he's not running over here cos he's a div, but he's the people's div. he's given a lot of people a lot of hope. Whether it comes to fruition I don't know. Yes people will vote for him and use it as an excuse for racist behaviour but you will always get things like that happening in any situation, it's the human race, unfortunately. People will hide their agendas with smoke screens.
World politics needs a big shake up, this, I feel, is undeniable and it looks like it's going to happen.
Why on earth would people not want to discuss issues when they get well thought out arguments like this back?5 - Sponsored links:
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More latinos and african americans voted for Trump than voted for Mitt Romney in the last election1
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There was at total of £1,344 matched on Betfair at 1000 on Trump being the next President. That's potentially £671,328 won and lost.
It's fortunate for all those layers out there that 999/1 is the ceiling price because I wouldn't mind betting that some would have been prepared to lay ten or even a hundred times that price for him getting elected.0 -
Clinton will never be able to show her face again. What an embarrassment for her.1
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Nikki reacts by dropping 5.5%, those Trump protectionist noises actually being taken seriously by some traders.0
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If you actually think Trump will be in charge of decision making as president you'd be mistaken.
Chris Christie and Mike Pence will be the proxy president.
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I managed to not open this thread until today. wow.1
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While standing here wearing nothing but clown shoes, a purple spotted kipper tie and a green lamé mankini...Duncan270566 said:Let's all point and laugh at America!
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Her old man still shows his face enough.Callumcafc said:Clinton will never be able to show her face again. What an embarrassment for her.
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I saw this joke on twitter a while ago and now is a good time to bring it up again...
"In 20 years time at your local pub quiz, if the question starts with 'In which year...' then just write 2016!"15 -
I do detect sarcasm, but I'm not sure.Garrymanilow said:
You're not white-knighting anything today, you're just being a silly boy. You accused Greenie Junior of being in favour of Muslim death camps because he's happy to have made more money under a Conservative government. That's an arsehole move and you know it. Go to bed.Leuth said:
Well, sure. What am I white-knighting this time, though? Eastern Europeans? The religion of Islam? The entire exploited working class? Seems like I'm white-knighting most of humanityGarrymanilow said:
Grow up Leuth. I know this is a difficult time for you considering how focused you are on being this board's white knight but re-read what you just said to Greenie Junior and tell us honestly that you haven't been an absolute twonk thereLeuth said:
Why on earth would people not let off steam after learning that a narcissistic tyrant with no fucking clue about running a country is POTUS?LuckyReds said:
The reason behind the silent majority, ladies and gentleman.Leuth said:
Your industry's booming? I thought the fucking gyppo cunts from Romania, the Slavs, the fucking Eastern Menace had decimated it? At least you're getting political representation from men of the fucking people Farage and Trump, men of great conscience and notions of social equality. What sort of shakeup did you have in mind? Death camps for Muslims?Greenie Junior said:
I am, a lot richer. I've never ever been out of work under Tory government, my industry is booming and is only getting stronger.Exiled_Addick said:
And how has two terms of Tory government been working out for you? Feeling richer?Greenie Junior said:
This is just it though, labour is not for the working class. Not even close. They scream racist every time you bring up a genuine immigration related concern. I'm not silly enough to think that immigration is the cause of all problems, but it is a problem, I see it first hand quite often people being undercut for ridiculous prices from cheap Romanian work forces etc. Doesn't mean I want them sent home, just want things tightened up.Exiled_Addick said:
The Labour movement that gave a meaningful voice to left wing politics was all about working class folk fighting for change in their favour. Why would I, as a person whose political stance is generally left of centre, be scared of working class folk? I am one myself, as is my wife and all our family.Greenie Junior said:
Because the left are shitting themselves the realisation that us regular hard working, working class folk want and will get change is frightening to them and what do they do when they shit themselves and don't know what to say? They call namespalarsehater said:@TelMc32 no bother about the grammar it's early and no coffee yet, no issue with people having an opinion but why are they labelled idiots the same as brexit voters.
What I'm scared of is a world where people think that foreigners and ethnic minorities are all to blame for their problems and then vote for millionaires who've never done a hard days work in their life because they've swallowed the hate filled lies, and over simplistic solutions that have been spat at them with barely disguised disdain by yet another bunch of self serving politicians who are using the people to get what serves them best, not what serves the people best.
The left claim to be for the little people but when we've stood up to be counted and voted for change (brexit) labour cronies and other leftie, are trying to block it.
On my site, I don't know a single person whose voted for Labour, all ukip or Tory. Labour and the left don't represent the working class people one bit as far as i see it.
Mainstream politics has left the working classes behind, I don't disagree. the left has lost site of its roots and the right has never really been for the good of all. The growth in the gap between the haves and the have nots has continued under successive governments - New Labour, Lib Con coalition, Conservative. All three have failed to stop the trend.
I was against Brexit but it made more sense as a protest vote, even if I believe it will back fire on the very people who most hope it will change their lot in life. As I said above, my dislike for Trump is not about his right wing policies, not that I'd be a fan of them in al honesty, but it's about his social attitudes and it upsets me that so many people don't care more aboutbthatbside of things. Just like it upsets me that Brexit was used by some people as an excuse for racist behaviour that blackens the name of my country, of which I am proud.
Don't get me wrong I understand your point on trump, I'm glad he's not running over here cos he's a div, but he's the people's div. he's given a lot of people a lot of hope. Whether it comes to fruition I don't know. Yes people will vote for him and use it as an excuse for racist behaviour but you will always get things like that happening in any situation, it's the human race, unfortunately. People will hide their agendas with smoke screens.
World politics needs a big shake up, this, I feel, is undeniable and it looks like it's going to happen.
Why on earth would people not want to discuss issues when they get well thought out arguments like this back?
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