Barack Obama created neither the poverty, nor the suspicion and loathing with which America was regarded in the world after George W Bush. However, he promised to cure the first, and has been found wanting; and he has used the second as an excuse to do nothing except withdraw. His role as President is now little more than as a spokesman for the bleeding heart and the bleeding obvious. When he is gone no one will miss him, least of all the one-time allies who feel he has spurned them. He has made America much less relevant.
Since George H.W. Bush left office in 1993 America has been ruled by a spin-obsessed sex addict, a dangerous halfwit and a clever incompetent. They all bore the imprimatur of their respective party machines. For much of America, Barack Obama is the last straw. He is the creator of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders. If one of them becomes president and the world doesn’t like it, they know whom to blame.
Well isn't this just so f*cking hilarious. Looks like some of you should have studied the evidence about the Clinton Foundation that I posted earlier (and was subsequently proved to be true by Wikileaks), instead you continued to believe the crooked, biased leftist media, the crooked, biased Polls and your Twitter feeds, where the likes of Leuth seems to get all his information lol. The game is now up for you Marxists and leftists. You have infected academia, the media and the Hollywood set. Your social engineering ideals have brought the Western World and western culture to the edge of destruction. Your brand of PC, Identity politics has caused terrible devision, animosity, and left huge numbers of people afraid to even open their mouths for fear of being labelled "racist, xenophobic, homophobic" etc, simply because they want secure borders, safety for their families, jobs, or even because they simply believe in the traditional definition of marriage. Well, the silent majority has now spoken. First with Brexit, now Trump, and next watch for France and Germany to go exactly the same way. Seriously though, how out of is the media these day's? How out of touch is CL?Where are all the conservatives? (Too frightened to speak out probably for fear of being labelled a Jimmy Savile sympathiser or a bigot, as I have been on this thread!) The mainstream media and Charlton Life are certainly not representative of the majority are they ( Trump is winning the popular vote as well BTW). 65 pages here of overwhelmingly anti Trump sentiment, and yet the majority of Americans voted for him, very strange! Suck it up all you Lefties, this is where the kick back begins, you got so far but ultimately you failed, just as socialism always fails, but not before it has caused immeasurable damage. Mwahahhahaaahaah!
Well isn't this just so f*cking hilarious. Looks like some of you should have studied the evidence about the Clinton Foundation that I posted earlier (and was subsequently proved to be true by Wikileaks), instead you continued to believe the crooked, biased leftist media, the crooked, biased Polls and your Twitter feeds, where the likes of Leuth seems to get all his information ! The game is now up for you Marxists and leftists. You have infected academia, the media and the Hollywood set. Your social engineering ideals have brought the Western Word and western culture to the edge of destruction. Your brand of PC, Identity politics has caused terrible devision, animosity, and left huge numbers of people afraid to even open their mouths for fear of being labelled "racist, xenophobic, homophobic" etc, simply because they want secure borders, safety for their families, jobs, or even because they simply believe in the traditional definition of marriage. Well, the silent majority has now spoken. First with Brexit, now Trump, and next watch for France and Germany to go exactly the same way. Seriously though, how out of is the media these day's? How out of touch is CL?Where are all the conservatives? (Too frightened to speak out probably for fear of being labelled a Jimmy Savile sympathiser or a bigot, as I have been on this thread!) Certainly not representative of the majority are they ( Trump is winning the popular vote as well BTW). 65 pages here of overwhelmingly anti Trump sentiment, and yet the majority of Americans voted for him, very strange! Suck it up all you Lefties, this is where the kick back begins, you got so far but ultimately you failed, just as socialism always fails, but not before it has caused immeasurable damage. Mwahahhahaaahaah!
I have no particular wish to get banned, and this is the only thing that's preventing me from posting what I want to post
Well isn't this just so f*cking hilarious. Looks like some of you should have studied the evidence about the Clinton Foundation that I posted earlier (and was subsequently proved to be true by Wikileaks), instead you continued to believe the crooked, biased leftist media, the crooked, biased Polls and your Twitter feeds, where the likes of Leuth seems to get all his information ! The game is now up for you Marxists and leftists. You have infected academia, the media and the Hollywood set. Your social engineering ideals have brought the Western Word and western culture to the edge of destruction. Your brand of PC, Identity politics has caused terrible devision, animosity, and left huge numbers of people afraid to even open their mouths for fear of being labelled "racist, xenophobic, homophobic" etc, simply because they want secure borders, safety for their families, jobs, or even because they simply believe in the traditional definition of marriage. Well, the silent majority has now spoken. First with Brexit, now Trump, and next watch for France and Germany to go exactly the same way. Seriously though, how out of is the media these day's? How out of touch is CL?Where are all the conservatives? (Too frightened to speak out probably for fear of being labelled a Jimmy Savile sympathiser or a bigot, as I have been on this thread!) Certainly not representative of the majority are they ( Trump is winning the popular vote as well BTW). 65 pages here of overwhelmingly anti Trump sentiment, and yet the majority of Americans voted for him, very strange! Suck it up all you Lefties, this is where the kick back begins, you got so far but ultimately you failed, just as socialism always fails, but not before it has caused immeasurable damage. Mwahahhahaaahaah!
being banded round twitter atm again something i feel in very bad taste - its happened - we move on the world isnt going to stop spinning tommorow.
absolute radio - currently running name a song to do with trump - there playing crazy nights and calling him a jerk etc, its not on really the guy has won the vote and that's it. may not of been everyones choice but the american nation has spoken.
"Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt person ever to seek the office of the United States". - DT 06/11/16
“Hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time, and we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country” - DT 09/11/16
Blimey, even Catastrophe Kate could learn lessons on duplicity from this guy.
"Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt person ever to seek the office of the United States". - DT 06/11/16
“Hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time, and we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country” - DT 09/11/16
Blimey, even Catastrophe Kate could learn lessons on duplicity from this guy.
No different (well i guess it is but bear with me) to 2 fighters who slag each other off for weeks/months in the build up, smash lumps out of each other, then hug afterwards and praise each other in the post match interview.
I wanted Clinton as think this was a vanity project for Trump that has surprised even him, but the hand wringing and bet wetting on here is making me laugh.
How we can judge another countries political choices when Corbyn has been elected leader of the opposition (twice) is astounding to me.
Brexit, Trump, Corbyn could be the next PM at this rate
I don't think so. People with left wing views shout about them as loud as they can, people with more right wing views, because of the way they are looked down upon, as a lot of those views are not the "correct" views tend to keep more quiet and then go out and vote.
Everyone that loves Corbyn has already declared it, and it won't be enough
"Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt person ever to seek the office of the United States". - DT 06/11/16
“Hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time, and we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country” - DT 09/11/16
Blimey, even Catastrophe Kate could learn lessons on duplicity from this guy.
No different (well i guess it is but bear with me) to 2 fighters who slag each other off for weeks/months in the build up, smash lumps out of each other, then hug afterwards and praise each other in the post match interview.
But with two fighters it's all about creating hype to make people more interested in the bout. It's just a game and it has no major consequences. This guy has offered little but insults and smears for an entire campaign, then the second he's won he wants everything to be nicey-nicey. I'm sure he's no different to any politician in that, it's just that with Trump the hate and vindictiveness was so extreme that his kind valedictory speech rings even more hollow than usual. This presidential campaign has made for great entertainment, just like one of those big fights, but I can't help but think that the campaign to hold the most powerful position in the world should be more about policies than childish insults.
I wanted Clinton as think this was a vanity project for Trump that has surprised even him, but the hand wringing and bet wetting on here is making me laugh.
How we can judge another countries political choices when Corbyn has been elected leader of the opposition (twice) is astounding to me.
Brexit, Trump, Corbyn could be the next PM at this rate
I don't think so. People with left wing views shout about them as loud as they can, people with more right wing views, because of the way they are looked down upon, as a lot of those views are not the "correct" views tend to keep more quiet and then go out and vote.
Everyone that loves Corbyn has already declared it, and it won't be enough
Really? I see papers shouting right wing views daily, social media liberally coated in right wing views, but apparently they're silent? The UK is a centre/right country for the most part. For the majority of the last 40 years we've had either a right wing or centre government, and 5 of the top 6 selling national newspapers are right of centre.
I am pleased that Trump - someone from outside the American Political Establishment has won. According to the Mainstream News in both USA & UK and Democrats / Liberals / Left all over the world this means that I am " a Racist, Woman Hating Minority Hating Gay Hating Neanderthol Bigot of the highest Order. Of Course I am none of those things but it is surprising that so many Liberals around the world have fallen for this obvious smearing.
Well isn't this just so f*cking hilarious. Looks like some of you should have studied the evidence about the Clinton Foundation that I posted earlier (and was subsequently proved to be true by Wikileaks), instead you continued to believe the crooked, biased leftist media, the crooked, biased Polls and your Twitter feeds, where the likes of Leuth seems to get all his information ! The game is now up for you Marxists and leftists. You have infected academia, the media and the Hollywood set. Your social engineering ideals have brought the Western Word and western culture to the edge of destruction. Your brand of PC, Identity politics has caused terrible devision, animosity, and left huge numbers of people afraid to even open their mouths for fear of being labelled "racist, xenophobic, homophobic" etc, simply because they want secure borders, safety for their families, jobs, or even because they simply believe in the traditional definition of marriage. Well, the silent majority has now spoken. First with Brexit, now Trump, and next watch for France and Germany to go exactly the same way. Seriously though, how out of is the media these day's? How out of touch is CL?Where are all the conservatives? (Too frightened to speak out probably for fear of being labelled a Jimmy Savile sympathiser or a bigot, as I have been on this thread!) Certainly not representative of the majority are they ( Trump is winning the popular vote as well BTW). 65 pages here of overwhelmingly anti Trump sentiment, and yet the majority of Americans voted for him, very strange! Suck it up all you Lefties, this is where the kick back begins, you got so far but ultimately you failed, just as socialism always fails, but not before it has caused immeasurable damage. Mwahahhahaaahaah!
I have no particular wish to get banned, and this is the only thing that's preventing me from posting what I want to post
Post it. I'd love to see you get banned. You are the rudest and most disrespectful poster on CL.
The 'Likes' under that queensland_addick post are a really handy spotter's guide for people with cool opinions fyi
You can like a post because you think it adds something to the thread. It isn't a slavish 'I agree with what has been written'
I'd like some more of your posts if you would only stop dropping the 'c' bomb and the tedious, gratuitous and totally unnecessary typing of swear words
Well isn't this just so f*cking hilarious. Looks like some of you should have studied the evidence about the Clinton Foundation that I posted earlier (and was subsequently proved to be true by Wikileaks), instead you continued to believe the crooked, biased leftist media, the crooked, biased Polls and your Twitter feeds, where the likes of Leuth seems to get all his information ! The game is now up for you Marxists and leftists. You have infected academia, the media and the Hollywood set. Your social engineering ideals have brought the Western Word and western culture to the edge of destruction. Your brand of PC, Identity politics has caused terrible devision, animosity, and left huge numbers of people afraid to even open their mouths for fear of being labelled "racist, xenophobic, homophobic" etc, simply because they want secure borders, safety for their families, jobs, or even because they simply believe in the traditional definition of marriage. Well, the silent majority has now spoken. First with Brexit, now Trump, and next watch for France and Germany to go exactly the same way. Seriously though, how out of is the media these day's? How out of touch is CL?Where are all the conservatives? (Too frightened to speak out probably for fear of being labelled a Jimmy Savile sympathiser or a bigot, as I have been on this thread!) Certainly not representative of the majority are they ( Trump is winning the popular vote as well BTW). 65 pages here of overwhelmingly anti Trump sentiment, and yet the majority of Americans voted for him, very strange! Suck it up all you Lefties, this is where the kick back begins, you got so far but ultimately you failed, just as socialism always fails, but not before it has caused immeasurable damage. Mwahahhahaaahaah!
Gordon Bennett.
No identification of posters real names please, thank you.
(Self appointed Assistant to the Peoples Moderator) .
"Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt person ever to seek the office of the United States". - DT 06/11/16
“Hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time, and we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country” - DT 09/11/16
Blimey, even Catastrophe Kate could learn lessons on duplicity from this guy.
No different (well i guess it is but bear with me) to 2 fighters who slag each other off for weeks/months in the build up, smash lumps out of each other, then hug afterwards and praise each other in the post match interview.
But with two fighters it's all about creating hype to make people more interested in the bout. It's just a game and it has no major consequences. This guy has offered little but insults and smears for an entire campaign, then the second he's won he wants everything to be nicey-nicey. I'm sure he's no different to any politician in that, it's just that with Trump the hate and vindictiveness was so extreme that his kind valedictory speech rings even more hollow than usual. This presidential campaign has made for great entertainment, just like one of those big fights, but I can't help but think that the campaign to hold the most powerful position in the world should be more about policies than childish insults.
True but you have to do whatever it takes to win. If putting her down and making people who were potentially undecided have doubts about her, who then decide to vote for him, then it's a job well done on his part. If he'd been nice about her and praised her during his campaign then he quite likely wouldn't have won.
Well isn't this just so f*cking hilarious. Looks like some of you should have studied the evidence about the Clinton Foundation that I posted earlier (and was subsequently proved to be true by Wikileaks), instead you continued to believe the crooked, biased leftist media, the crooked, biased Polls and your Twitter feeds, where the likes of Leuth seems to get all his information ! The game is now up for you Marxists and leftists. You have infected academia, the media and the Hollywood set. Your social engineering ideals have brought the Western Word and western culture to the edge of destruction. Your brand of PC, Identity politics has caused terrible devision, animosity, and left huge numbers of people afraid to even open their mouths for fear of being labelled "racist, xenophobic, homophobic" etc, simply because they want secure borders, safety for their families, jobs, or even because they simply believe in the traditional definition of marriage. Well, the silent majority has now spoken. First with Brexit, now Trump, and next watch for France and Germany to go exactly the same way. Seriously though, how out of is the media these day's? How out of touch is CL?Where are all the conservatives? (Too frightened to speak out probably for fear of being labelled a Jimmy Savile sympathiser or a bigot, as I have been on this thread!) Certainly not representative of the majority are they ( Trump is winning the popular vote as well BTW). 65 pages here of overwhelmingly anti Trump sentiment, and yet the majority of Americans voted for him, very strange! Suck it up all you Lefties, this is where the kick back begins, you got so far but ultimately you failed, just as socialism always fails, but not before it has caused immeasurable damage. Mwahahhahaaahaah!
I have no particular wish to get banned, and this is the only thing that's preventing me from posting what I want to post
Post it. I'd love to see you get banned. You are the rudest and most disrespectful poster on CL.
I can't open my mouth. I'm afraid of being labelled a twonk.
Well isn't this just so f*cking hilarious. Looks like some of you should have studied the evidence about the Clinton Foundation that I posted earlier (and was subsequently proved to be true by Wikileaks), instead you continued to believe the crooked, biased leftist media, the crooked, biased Polls and your Twitter feeds, where the likes of Leuth seems to get all his information ! The game is now up for you Marxists and leftists. You have infected academia, the media and the Hollywood set. Your social engineering ideals have brought the Western Word and western culture to the edge of destruction. Your brand of PC, Identity politics has caused terrible devision, animosity, and left huge numbers of people afraid to even open their mouths for fear of being labelled "racist, xenophobic, homophobic" etc, simply because they want secure borders, safety for their families, jobs, or even because they simply believe in the traditional definition of marriage. Well, the silent majority has now spoken. First with Brexit, now Trump, and next watch for France and Germany to go exactly the same way. Seriously though, how out of is the media these day's? How out of touch is CL?Where are all the conservatives? (Too frightened to speak out probably for fear of being labelled a Jimmy Savile sympathiser or a bigot, as I have been on this thread!) Certainly not representative of the majority are they ( Trump is winning the popular vote as well BTW). 65 pages here of overwhelmingly anti Trump sentiment, and yet the majority of Americans voted for him, very strange! Suck it up all you Lefties, this is where the kick back begins, you got so far but ultimately you failed, just as socialism always fails, but not before it has caused immeasurable damage. Mwahahhahaaahaah!
Gordon Bennett.
No identification of posters real names please, thank you.
(Self appointed Assistant to the Peoples Moderator) .
Boss, @i_b_b_o_r_g did you see what I did there? Quick decisive intervention, none of this 'I'll look into it' pussyfooting tactics. I'm after your job, be warned
Well isn't this just so f*cking hilarious. Looks like some of you should have studied the evidence about the Clinton Foundation that I posted earlier (and was subsequently proved to be true by Wikileaks), instead you continued to believe the crooked, biased leftist media, the crooked, biased Polls and your Twitter feeds, where the likes of Leuth seems to get all his information ! The game is now up for you Marxists and leftists. You have infected academia, the media and the Hollywood set. Your social engineering ideals have brought the Western Word and western culture to the edge of destruction. Your brand of PC, Identity politics has caused terrible devision, animosity, and left huge numbers of people afraid to even open their mouths for fear of being labelled "racist, xenophobic, homophobic" etc, simply because they want secure borders, safety for their families, jobs, or even because they simply believe in the traditional definition of marriage. Well, the silent majority has now spoken. First with Brexit, now Trump, and next watch for France and Germany to go exactly the same way. Seriously though, how out of is the media these day's? How out of touch is CL?Where are all the conservatives? (Too frightened to speak out probably for fear of being labelled a Jimmy Savile sympathiser or a bigot, as I have been on this thread!) Certainly not representative of the majority are they ( Trump is winning the popular vote as well BTW). 65 pages here of overwhelmingly anti Trump sentiment, and yet the majority of Americans voted for him, very strange! Suck it up all you Lefties, this is where the kick back begins, you got so far but ultimately you failed, just as socialism always fails, but not before it has caused immeasurable damage. Mwahahhahaaahaah!
Gordon Bennett.
No identification of posters real names please, thank you.
(Self appointed Assistant to the Peoples Moderator) .
Boss, @i_b_b_o_r_g did you see what I did there? Quick decisive intervention, none of this 'I'll look into it' pussyfooting tactics. I'm after your job, be warned
"Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt person ever to seek the office of the United States". - DT 06/11/16
“Hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time, and we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country” - DT 09/11/16
Blimey, even Catastrophe Kate could learn lessons on duplicity from this guy.
No different (well i guess it is but bear with me) to 2 fighters who slag each other off for weeks/months in the build up, smash lumps out of each other, then hug afterwards and praise each other in the post match interview.
But with two fighters it's all about creating hype to make people more interested in the bout. It's just a game and it has no major consequences. This guy has offered little but insults and smears for an entire campaign, then the second he's won he wants everything to be nicey-nicey. I'm sure he's no different to any politician in that, it's just that with Trump the hate and vindictiveness was so extreme that his kind valedictory speech rings even more hollow than usual. This presidential campaign has made for great entertainment, just like one of those big fights, but I can't help but think that the campaign to hold the most powerful position in the world should be more about policies than childish insults.
True but you have to do whatever it takes to win. If putting her down and making people who were potentially undecided have doubts about her, who then decide to vote for him, then it's a job well done on his part. If he'd been nice about her and praised her during his campaign then he quite likely wouldn't have won.
I agree that putting her down was a key strategy without which he may not have won. From that perspective he's been very clever and done what he needed to in order to win. Maybe I'm being naïve, but I still think politics should be more about policy than personality. I do wonder if there's an issue with any system (and the UK's is the same) where it's essentially a two horse race. Perhaps if there were more genuine contenders in the field there'd be a need for each candidate to focus on themselves and what they planned to do rather than knocking the opponent.
Comments
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/09/how-eight-years-of-barack-obama-created-donald-trump/
Extract
Barack Obama created neither the poverty, nor the suspicion and loathing with which America was regarded in the world after George W Bush. However, he promised to cure the first, and has been found wanting; and he has used the second as an excuse to do nothing except withdraw. His role as President is now little more than as a spokesman for the bleeding heart and the bleeding obvious. When he is gone no one will miss him, least of all the one-time allies who feel he has spurned them. He has made America much less relevant.
Since George H.W. Bush left office in 1993 America has been ruled by a spin-obsessed sex addict, a dangerous halfwit and a clever incompetent. They all bore the imprimatur of their respective party machines. For much of America, Barack Obama is the last straw. He is the creator of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders. If one of them becomes president and the world doesn’t like it, they know whom to blame.
The game is now up for you Marxists and leftists. You have infected academia, the media and the Hollywood set. Your social engineering ideals have brought the Western World and western culture to the edge of destruction. Your brand of PC, Identity politics has caused terrible devision, animosity, and left huge numbers of people afraid to even open their mouths for fear of being labelled "racist, xenophobic, homophobic" etc, simply because they want secure borders, safety for their families, jobs, or even because they simply believe in the traditional definition of marriage.
Well, the silent majority has now spoken. First with Brexit, now Trump, and next watch for France and Germany to go exactly the same way.
Seriously though, how out of is the media these day's? How out of touch is CL?Where are all the conservatives? (Too frightened to speak out probably for fear of being labelled a Jimmy Savile sympathiser or a bigot, as I have been on this thread!) The mainstream media and Charlton Life are certainly not representative of the majority are they ( Trump is winning the popular vote as well BTW). 65 pages here of overwhelmingly anti Trump sentiment, and yet the majority of Americans voted for him, very strange!
Suck it up all you Lefties, this is where the kick back begins, you got so far but ultimately you failed, just as socialism always fails, but not before it has caused immeasurable damage. Mwahahhahaaahaah!
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being banded round twitter atm again something i feel in very bad taste - its happened - we move on the world isnt going to stop spinning tommorow.
absolute radio - currently running name a song to do with trump - there playing crazy nights and calling him a jerk etc, its not on really the guy has won the vote and that's it. may not of been everyones choice but the american nation has spoken.
“Hillary has worked very long and very hard over a long period of time, and we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country” - DT 09/11/16
Blimey, even Catastrophe Kate could learn lessons on duplicity from this guy.
Everyone that loves Corbyn has already declared it, and it won't be enough
It isn't a slavish 'I agree with what has been written'
I'd like some more of your posts if you would only stop dropping the 'c' bomb and the tedious, gratuitous and totally unnecessary typing of swear words
(Self appointed Assistant to the Peoples Moderator)