Explosion at Brussels airport
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In the last twelve months 300 have been arrested for terror offences.in the UK. That's a huge number. Plod etc doing a good job , but the scum bags only have to be lucky once,
Their propaganda seems to still recruit which is a massive concern.8 -
Whatever these 'many social problems' a democratic, and free country like Belgium has doesn't justify the bombing and murder of innocent civilians.LuckyReds said:My thoughts are with those affected, and I hope - albeit without much expectation - that this was genuinely an accident.
Brussels has many social problems, as does Belgium in general.
Do these people really think this will achieve anything positive? Or is it purely to make our civilised societies more divisive?
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Horrible news but stoking fear and division is exactly what terrorists want.14
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Pictures on twitter, that I'll not reproduce on here, of at least one person injured at the metro station.0
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I don't believe, nor have I said, that 'it's all of that lot'. That's the sort of assumption that is banded about whenever issues are raised about a minority of a scetion of society.LuckyReds said:
I think @se9addick is most likely suggesting that, above all, there's a time and a place for those observations. When the news regarding casualties and fatalities is still coming in, and in fact, it turns out the attack is still in progress (i.e the Metro bomb) probably isn't one of those times.Big_Bad_World said:
Your spidey senses seem to be in tip top form. However, condolences to those affected are a given in these situations.se9addick said:Big_Bad_World said:This incident has nothing whatsoever to do with religion or those that follow religion.
No siree.
I'm detecting a theme in your posts and it isn't one that has shown any condolence to the people affected, in either of your two posts on the subject.Big_Bad_World said:
More a dark day for a certain section of society.LuckyReds said:
Another dark day for society.Redmidland said:From Twitter-:
Local media reporting that firemen found other unexploded bombs, federal police confirm at lest one dead at #Brussels airport
Most of society will pull together and show togetherness. A smal minority will continue to shout loudly until such a time that they are eradicated from the face of the planet.
Sad but true.
RIP to those killed, I hope the Belgian police get their act together and find those responsible.
You've chosen to post condolences wheras I've posted about the common denominator in all of these tragedies that a lot of people feel uincomfortable highlighting for a multitude of strange reasons.
Each to their own, old chap.
Purely for peace of mind, as wont be able to get a good nights sleep without knowing your stance on this, what part of either of my posts is untrue?
You're correct in that there is a common attribute amongst those involved, however I'd also suggest that there are more common themes than the obvious one though. The situation is more complex than simply "it's all of that lot, y'know - the ones who don't believe what we believe and are a slightly darker shade of our colour!".
The insinuation that there must be racist undertones is offensive in itself. Terrorism isn't defined by colour.2 -
Dear all,
Please don't politicise this right now. Some of us have family we are trying to track down in Brussels right now.
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NEW: Brussels metro shutting down the entire system following reports of 3 explosions at different stations.0
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Molenbeek in the Belgian districts just seems a dangerous place to go these days and seeing that the Paris attacker was hiding in there for so long, something needs to be done about that area...
Almost like the Kings Estate in Gravesend where everyone dispersed to new locations to try and stop the trouble from happening!!0 -
I sincerely hope anyone you know that may be caught up in this is okay.Jdredsox said:Dear all,
Please don't politicise this right now. Some of us have family we are trying to track down in Brussels right now.
Thanks.6 -
all of the Paris attackers were EU nationals and not refugees.ForeverAddickted said:I'm not going to get into Politics today but all I'll say is I am surprised that Angela Merkel is still in charge of Germany.
She was one of the biggest callers in the EU debates to accept people into Europe yet countless have died in Paris and now Brussels because of it, surely they should be standing down?13 - Sponsored links:
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Can you not read the first lines of my comment?kentaddick said:
all of the Paris attackers were EU nationals and not refugees.ForeverAddickted said:I'm not going to get into Politics today but all I'll say is I am surprised that Angela Merkel is still in charge of Germany.
She was one of the biggest callers in the EU debates to accept people into Europe yet countless have died in Paris and now Brussels because of it, surely they should be standing down?
I've said my piece, I'm NOT going to get into a political debate about this today!!5 -
Sometimes a post is so ignorant it's not even worth responding @kentaddick !kentaddick said:
all of the Paris attackers were EU nationals and not refugees.ForeverAddickted said:I'm not going to get into Politics today but all I'll say is I am surprised that Angela Merkel is still in charge of Germany.
She was one of the biggest callers in the EU debates to accept people into Europe yet countless have died in Paris and now Brussels because of it, surely they should be standing down?1 -
You said something factually incorrect? What's there to debate about?ForeverAddickted said:
Can you not read the first lines of my comment?kentaddick said:
all of the Paris attackers were EU nationals and not refugees.ForeverAddickted said:I'm not going to get into Politics today but all I'll say is I am surprised that Angela Merkel is still in charge of Germany.
She was one of the biggest callers in the EU debates to accept people into Europe yet countless have died in Paris and now Brussels because of it, surely they should be standing down?
I've said my piece, I'm NOT going to get into a political debate about this today!!
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But you are getting into politics. And using death to make a ridiculous point about immigration.ForeverAddickted said:I'm not going to get into Politics today but all I'll say is I am surprised that Angela Merkel is still in charge of Germany.
She was one of the biggest callers in the EU debates to accept people into Europe yet countless have died in Paris and now Brussels because of it, surely they should be standing down?
Disgusting!22 -
My thoughts and prayers to everyone involved and their families and friends. My thoughts and prayers to the people of Brussels.1
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Lee Rigby's killers held British passports. I don't think many right minded people consider them to be British.kentaddick said:
all of the Paris attackers were EU nationals and not refugees.ForeverAddickted said:I'm not going to get into Politics today but all I'll say is I am surprised that Angela Merkel is still in charge of Germany.
She was one of the biggest callers in the EU debates to accept people into Europe yet countless have died in Paris and now Brussels because of it, surely they should be standing down?
Nationality is more than holding a passport or being born in a country. It's a way of life.16 -
One of the first video in Brussels terminal right after the explosion. Reports of shouts in Arabic and shots.
thats from an eyewitness, doesnt exactly require sherlock to work out whats gone on.
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So, you're allowed to say what you want, but no one can respond?ForeverAddickted said:
Can you not read the first lines of my comment?kentaddick said:
all of the Paris attackers were EU nationals and not refugees.ForeverAddickted said:I'm not going to get into Politics today but all I'll say is I am surprised that Angela Merkel is still in charge of Germany.
She was one of the biggest callers in the EU debates to accept people into Europe yet countless have died in Paris and now Brussels because of it, surely they should be standing down?
I've said my piece, I'm NOT going to get into a political debate about this today!!18 -
People are more than welcome to post their views just dont get into an argument with me over it.Stig said:
So, you're allowed to say what you want, but no one can respond?ForeverAddickted said:
Can you not read the first lines of my comment?kentaddick said:
all of the Paris attackers were EU nationals and not refugees.ForeverAddickted said:I'm not going to get into Politics today but all I'll say is I am surprised that Angela Merkel is still in charge of Germany.
She was one of the biggest callers in the EU debates to accept people into Europe yet countless have died in Paris and now Brussels because of it, surely they should be standing down?
I've said my piece, I'm NOT going to get into a political debate about this today!!2 -
Makes you remember that football is extremely irrelevant when we have things like this regularly happening both in the UK and abroad.Thoughts go out to the people involved.0
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To be fair, maybe you should never have said your comment in the first place. You cannot say something on a public forum, especially something highly divisive, then instantly dismiss anyone for having a counter point.ForeverAddickted said:
Can you not read the first lines of my comment?kentaddick said:
all of the Paris attackers were EU nationals and not refugees.ForeverAddickted said:I'm not going to get into Politics today but all I'll say is I am surprised that Angela Merkel is still in charge of Germany.
She was one of the biggest callers in the EU debates to accept people into Europe yet countless have died in Paris and now Brussels because of it, surely they should be standing down?
I've said my piece, I'm NOT going to get into a political debate about this today!!
As ever my thoughts with those effected by this. It sucks that this somewhat feels routine now.9 -
My last post on the issues behind the attack, because this one incorrectly implies that I've claimed a form of justification. I've never said these issues justify anything, and not only is that incredibly unfair - but it's simply untrue.Addickted said:
Whatever these 'many social problems' a democratic, and free country like Belgium has doesn't justify the bombing and murder of innocent civilians.LuckyReds said:My thoughts are with those affected, and I hope - albeit without much expectation - that this was genuinely an accident.
Brussels has many social problems, as does Belgium in general.
Do these people really think this will achieve anything positive? Or is it purely to make our civilised societies more divisive?
I have implied that the social issues in areas like Molenbeek have directly aided the recruiting efforts of extremist groups, and essentially facilitated terrorist actions via this. Making an observation about issues with aid and facilitate a given incident, is not justifying the incident itself.
It's the confusion between the differences of "justification" and "examination" which stifles any serious discussion regarding how these tragic events actually begin.3 -
My colleague's son travels there every so often for work and says it is like an airport all over Brussels with such a high level of police presence.
Thoughts with those involved and I hope it's only those responsible who have died - though this will inevitably not be the case.1 -
Your right... I should have held off posting and will hold my hands up to that factFishCostaFortune said:
To be fair, maybe you should never have said your comment in the first place. You cannot say something on a public forum, especially something highly divisive, then instantly dismiss anyone for having a counter point.ForeverAddickted said:
Can you not read the first lines of my comment?kentaddick said:
all of the Paris attackers were EU nationals and not refugees.ForeverAddickted said:I'm not going to get into Politics today but all I'll say is I am surprised that Angela Merkel is still in charge of Germany.
She was one of the biggest callers in the EU debates to accept people into Europe yet countless have died in Paris and now Brussels because of it, surely they should be standing down?
I've said my piece, I'm NOT going to get into a political debate about this today!!
As ever my thoughts with those effected by this. It sucks that this somewhat feels routine now.3 -
That is factually incorrect.kentaddick said:
all of the Paris attackers were EU nationals and not refugees.ForeverAddickted said:I'm not going to get into Politics today but all I'll say is I am surprised that Angela Merkel is still in charge of Germany.
She was one of the biggest callers in the EU debates to accept people into Europe yet countless have died in Paris and now Brussels because of it, surely they should be standing down?3 -
Absolute, utter vermin those who carry these acts out
My heart goes out to anyone affected, very sad7 -
Once again, just to settle another misquotation.Big_Bad_World said:
I don't believe, nor have I said, that 'it's all of that lot'. That's the sort of assumption that is banded about whenever issues are raised about a minority of a scetion of society.LuckyReds said:
I think @se9addick is most likely suggesting that, above all, there's a time and a place for those observations. When the news regarding casualties and fatalities is still coming in, and in fact, it turns out the attack is still in progress (i.e the Metro bomb) probably isn't one of those times.Big_Bad_World said:
Your spidey senses seem to be in tip top form. However, condolences to those affected are a given in these situations.se9addick said:Big_Bad_World said:This incident has nothing whatsoever to do with religion or those that follow religion.
No siree.
I'm detecting a theme in your posts and it isn't one that has shown any condolence to the people affected, in either of your two posts on the subject.Big_Bad_World said:
More a dark day for a certain section of society.LuckyReds said:
Another dark day for society.Redmidland said:From Twitter-:
Local media reporting that firemen found other unexploded bombs, federal police confirm at lest one dead at #Brussels airport
Most of society will pull together and show togetherness. A smal minority will continue to shout loudly until such a time that they are eradicated from the face of the planet.
Sad but true.
RIP to those killed, I hope the Belgian police get their act together and find those responsible.
You've chosen to post condolences wheras I've posted about the common denominator in all of these tragedies that a lot of people feel uincomfortable highlighting for a multitude of strange reasons.
Each to their own, old chap.
Purely for peace of mind, as wont be able to get a good nights sleep without knowing your stance on this, what part of either of my posts is untrue?
You're correct in that there is a common attribute amongst those involved, however I'd also suggest that there are more common themes than the obvious one though. The situation is more complex than simply "it's all of that lot, y'know - the ones who don't believe what we believe and are a slightly darker shade of our colour!".
The insinuation that there must be racist undertones is offensive in itself. Terrorism isn't defined by colour.
Nor is terrorism simply defined by religion, an implication you were very quick to cast in your initial post.0 -
Puts our plight into perspective.
Hope all of your loved ones are safe and sound.1 -
While I too, would like not to get into politics, it is a cheap shot to attack Merkel.ForeverAddickted said:I'm not going to get into Politics today but all I'll say is I am surprised that Angela Merkel is still in charge of Germany.
She was one of the biggest callers in the EU debates to accept people into Europe yet countless have died in Paris and now Brussels because of it, surely they should be standing down?
Surely the majority of those who have been involved in recent terrorist activity (ISIS inspired) in Europe have not been recent arrivals in Europe (though it suits the ISIS narrative for us to believe that that is the case).
The terrorists are generally native born (second or third generation from immigrant communities), not refugees. In almost every case that has been identified, they appear to have been individuals lacking a real sense of identity (with significant histories of alcohol and drug taking), who have been easy targets for those seeking to exploit their insecurities - because that's what terrorist organisations do, they seek to brainwash vulnerable and weak individuals into their way of thinking. ISIS, like the IRA, Shining Path, Red Army Faction, etc. seek to paint the world in black and white, because they want an "us and them" division.
I would have much greater concerns about the brand of Islam being imported into Europe by Saudi funded mosques than I would have about refugees, the vast majority of whom are fleeing an extremist form of Sunni Islam.
Today, however, should be about sympathy and support for the victims, and making sure that those responsible are caught as soon as possible.
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Source? Everything I've ever seen and continue to see (just did a quick google) points at them all having been eu nationals. Happy to be educated otherwiseChiAddick said:
That is factually incorrect.kentaddick said:
all of the Paris attackers were EU nationals and not refugees.ForeverAddickted said:I'm not going to get into Politics today but all I'll say is I am surprised that Angela Merkel is still in charge of Germany.
She was one of the biggest callers in the EU debates to accept people into Europe yet countless have died in Paris and now Brussels because of it, surely they should be standing down?0
