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  • I remember Asif Iqbal, he was an excellent player.
  • MrOneLung said:

    Who were our overseas players back then in the 80's

    Da Silva is probably earliest I can remember.

    Most memorable ones for me (those who were with us for more than a season):

    Asif Iqbal
    John Shepherd
    Bernard Julien
    Eldine Baptiste
    Terry Alderman
    Aravinda Da Silva
    Carl Hooper
  • dickplumb said:

    I remember Asif Iqbal, he was an excellent player.

    He's still around and is regularly at his grandson's matches. Lovely man too.


  • Carrying on with this game, Sussex made 222-3 with Nash making 110 not out off 60 odd balls.

    Somerset making a real point of promoting their youth....they've only got Gayle,Jayawardene,Allenby,Arafat and Van Der Merwe playing. For a non-Test playing county , they've certainly opened up their wallet this season - i wonder if they're a county that might need financial assistance end of this season.?
    Are Kent persisting with their non-overseas line-up this season ? - if so, it makes Somersets stance really unfair.

    Kent has 2 overseas players, Latham for the summer and Rabada briefly. It always amazes me how few local players many other counties have, when compared with Kent.

    Kent has the biggest number of participating cricketers in the country barring yorkshire
  • Riviera said:

    LenGlover said:

    And to prove the point, 2 leggies playing in T20 tonight on Sky - Sussex v Somerset - Will Beer and Max Waller.

    Carrying on with this game, Sussex made 222-3 with Nash making 110 not out off 60 odd balls.

    Somerset making a real point of promoting their youth....they've only got Gayle,Jayawardene,Allenby,Arafat and Van Der Merwe playing. For a non-Test playing county , they've certainly opened up their wallet this season - i wonder if they're a county that might need financial assistance end of this season.?
    Are Kent persisting with their non-overseas line-up this season ? - if so, it makes Somersets stance really unfair.
    Kent has 2 overseas players, Latham for the summer and Rabada briefly. It always amazes me how few local players many other counties have, when compared with Kent.
    Back in the seventies it was said that the boundaries of Kent extended from Bridgetown to Hyderabad
    Hampshire and Gloucester had more and higher profile overseas players than Kent in the 70's.
    Ad when it comes to Overseas players, you can't beat Viv Richards and Joel Garner at Somerset!

    Hadlee, Imran Khan, Marshall, Roberts, Holdings, Garner, Clive Rice, Mike Proctor, Asif Iqbal, Wayne Daniel, Sylvester Clarke etc, those were golden years for County Cricket in many ways, especially for the quality of the fast bowling
  • And to prove the point, 2 leggies playing in T20 tonight on Sky - Sussex v Somerset - Will Beer and Max Waller.

    Carrying on with this game, Sussex made 222-3 with Nash making 110 not out off 60 odd balls.

    Somerset making a real point of promoting their youth....they've only got Gayle,Jayawardene,Allenby,Arafat and Van Der Merwe playing. For a non-Test playing county , they've certainly opened up their wallet this season - i wonder if they're a county that might need financial assistance end of this season.?
    Are Kent persisting with their non-overseas line-up this season ? - if so, it makes Somersets stance really unfair.
    Kent has 2 overseas players, Latham for the summer and Rabada briefly. It always amazes me how few local players many other counties have, when compared with Kent.
    That's 'cos they've got money and we haven't. So either they pay to have overseas/Kolpak players or just nick the best ones from other counties. The honorable exception is Yorkshire who have both home grown and steal players!
    You say that, but the assumption is that the counties with money are the Test playing counties - and Somerset isn't one of them. So, where are they getting their money from to recruit the likes of Gayle,Jaywardene.Allenby,Arafat,Van De Merwe (who wont be cheap) when Kent can't.? Doesn't make sense, as I thought that Kents attendances were relatively high in comparison.
  • And to prove the point, 2 leggies playing in T20 tonight on Sky - Sussex v Somerset - Will Beer and Max Waller.

    Carrying on with this game, Sussex made 222-3 with Nash making 110 not out off 60 odd balls.

    Somerset making a real point of promoting their youth....they've only got Gayle,Jayawardene,Allenby,Arafat and Van Der Merwe playing. For a non-Test playing county , they've certainly opened up their wallet this season - i wonder if they're a county that might need financial assistance end of this season.?
    Are Kent persisting with their non-overseas line-up this season ? - if so, it makes Somersets stance really unfair.
    Kent has 2 overseas players, Latham for the summer and Rabada briefly. It always amazes me how few local players many other counties have, when compared with Kent.
    That's 'cos they've got money and we haven't. So either they pay to have overseas/Kolpak players or just nick the best ones from other counties. The honorable exception is Yorkshire who have both home grown and steal players!
    You say that, but the assumption is that the counties with money are the Test playing counties - and Somerset isn't one of them. So, where are they getting their money from to recruit the likes of Gayle,Jaywardene.Allenby,Arafat,Van De Merwe (who wont be cheap) when Kent can't.? Doesn't make sense, as I thought that Kents attendances were relatively high in comparison.
    Somerset seem to be well run financially. This article is from 2013, but probably still relevant

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/counties/9979945/County-Championship-how-the-counties-are-faring-financially.html
    The model non-Test match county who redeveloped their ground before the recession and are now reaping the rewards from their improved facilities. Further ground developments are under way at Taunton and Somerset have plans to bring international one-day cricket to their bustling headquarters. Financial stability has helped Somerset to invest in their squad which has brought them six runners-up prizes in three years.
    http://www.somersetcountycc.co.uk/club/accounts/#O2wzJ1tzu43eTWqi.97
  • And to prove the point, 2 leggies playing in T20 tonight on Sky - Sussex v Somerset - Will Beer and Max Waller.

    Carrying on with this game, Sussex made 222-3 with Nash making 110 not out off 60 odd balls.

    Somerset making a real point of promoting their youth....they've only got Gayle,Jayawardene,Allenby,Arafat and Van Der Merwe playing. For a non-Test playing county , they've certainly opened up their wallet this season - i wonder if they're a county that might need financial assistance end of this season.?
    Are Kent persisting with their non-overseas line-up this season ? - if so, it makes Somersets stance really unfair.
    Kent has 2 overseas players, Latham for the summer and Rabada briefly. It always amazes me how few local players many other counties have, when compared with Kent.
    That's 'cos they've got money and we haven't. So either they pay to have overseas/Kolpak players or just nick the best ones from other counties. The honorable exception is Yorkshire who have both home grown and steal players!
    You say that, but the assumption is that the counties with money are the Test playing counties - and Somerset isn't one of them. So, where are they getting their money from to recruit the likes of Gayle,Jaywardene.Allenby,Arafat,Van De Merwe (who wont be cheap) when Kent can't.? Doesn't make sense, as I thought that Kents attendances were relatively high in comparison.
    Somerset seem to be well run financially. This article is from 2013, but probably still relevant

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/counties/9979945/County-Championship-how-the-counties-are-faring-financially.html
    The model non-Test match county who redeveloped their ground before the recession and are now reaping the rewards from their improved facilities. Further ground developments are under way at Taunton and Somerset have plans to bring international one-day cricket to their bustling headquarters. Financial stability has helped Somerset to invest in their squad which has brought them six runners-up prizes in three years.
    http://www.somersetcountycc.co.uk/club/accounts/#O2wzJ1tzu43eTWqi.97


    Interesting article.
    As interesting is Surrey's turnover is 23 million whereas Kent's is 3.2 - a huge difference.
  • And to prove the point, 2 leggies playing in T20 tonight on Sky - Sussex v Somerset - Will Beer and Max Waller.

    Carrying on with this game, Sussex made 222-3 with Nash making 110 not out off 60 odd balls.

    Somerset making a real point of promoting their youth....they've only got Gayle,Jayawardene,Allenby,Arafat and Van Der Merwe playing. For a non-Test playing county , they've certainly opened up their wallet this season - i wonder if they're a county that might need financial assistance end of this season.?
    Are Kent persisting with their non-overseas line-up this season ? - if so, it makes Somersets stance really unfair.
    Kent has 2 overseas players, Latham for the summer and Rabada briefly. It always amazes me how few local players many other counties have, when compared with Kent.
    That's 'cos they've got money and we haven't. So either they pay to have overseas/Kolpak players or just nick the best ones from other counties. The honorable exception is Yorkshire who have both home grown and steal players!
    You say that, but the assumption is that the counties with money are the Test playing counties - and Somerset isn't one of them. So, where are they getting their money from to recruit the likes of Gayle,Jaywardene.Allenby,Arafat,Van De Merwe (who wont be cheap) when Kent can't.? Doesn't make sense, as I thought that Kents attendances were relatively high in comparison.
    Somerset seem to be well run financially. This article is from 2013, but probably still relevant

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/counties/9979945/County-Championship-how-the-counties-are-faring-financially.html
    The model non-Test match county who redeveloped their ground before the recession and are now reaping the rewards from their improved facilities. Further ground developments are under way at Taunton and Somerset have plans to bring international one-day cricket to their bustling headquarters. Financial stability has helped Somerset to invest in their squad which has brought them six runners-up prizes in three years.
    http://www.somersetcountycc.co.uk/club/accounts/#O2wzJ1tzu43eTWqi.97
    Interesting article.
    As interesting is Surrey's turnover is 23 million whereas Kent's is 3.2 - a huge difference.

    Just comparing the Oval with Canterbury says it all. Even the Kent ticketing website seems a bit amateurish when compared with those of the major test ground counties, it uses your email address to generate publicity emails, but individuals have no unique reference
    The Oval is also used extensively out of season which helped Oval Events, a trading subsidiary, to bring in £9.1 million.
    That's a massive amount of extra turnover, higher by itself than the total income for nearly all the other counties
  • edited June 2016
    Riviera said:

    LenGlover said:

    And to prove the point, 2 leggies playing in T20 tonight on Sky - Sussex v Somerset - Will Beer and Max Waller.

    Carrying on with this game, Sussex made 222-3 with Nash making 110 not out off 60 odd balls.

    Somerset making a real point of promoting their youth....they've only got Gayle,Jayawardene,Allenby,Arafat and Van Der Merwe playing. For a non-Test playing county , they've certainly opened up their wallet this season - i wonder if they're a county that might need financial assistance end of this season.?
    Are Kent persisting with their non-overseas line-up this season ? - if so, it makes Somersets stance really unfair.
    Kent has 2 overseas players, Latham for the summer and Rabada briefly. It always amazes me how few local players many other counties have, when compared with Kent.
    Back in the seventies it was said that the boundaries of Kent extended from Bridgetown to Hyderabad
    Hampshire and Gloucester had more and higher profile overseas players than Kent in the 70's.
    Indeed.

    John Shepherd (Bridgetown) and Asif Iqbal (Hyderabad) both played for Kent long enough to earn benefits hence the tongue in cheek comment at the time.

    They were almost like normal county players in comparison to many other overseas players because of their relative longevity.

    Bernard Julien was around for a while in the early mid seventies but that was about it for Kent nd overseas players in that period.
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  • dickplumb said:

    I remember Asif Iqbal, he was an excellent player.

    I caught and bowled him when I was a kid (albeit, he was batting without any pads or gloves and was wearing jeans at the time!)
  • This thread, like so many others on this forum, has rapidly gone off topic!
  • This thread, like so many others on this forum, has rapidly gone off topic!

    Someone earlier mentioned Robin Hobbs. I saw him in an Indian restaurant last year. True story.
  • MrOneLung said:

    Who were our overseas players back then in the 80's

    Da Silva is probably earliest I can remember.

    Most memorable ones for me (those who were with us for more than a season):

    Asif Iqbal
    John Shepherd
    Bernard Julien
    Eldine Baptiste
    Terry Alderman
    Aravinda Da Silva
    Carl Hooper
    Amazing how a jog to the memory helps. Actually I remember all of them apart from Julien who I have never heard of!!
  • Bernard Julien was a West Indian all rounder who bowled medium fast left arm. He played a few Tests in the early to mid 70's and in the 1975 World Cup final. He joined Packer and although he was still under contract to Kent did not return in 1977 because he thought he would be sacked. Kent however, unlike counties like Warwickshire who sacked Dennis Amiss (re-instated after a leagal battle), kept their Packer playes; Knott, Underwood and Woolmer.
  • the worst offenders(if thats the word )of that era were warwickshire who could play Rohan Kanhai,Billy Ibadulla,Deryck Murray and Alvin Kallicharran in the same team
  • I remember Aravinda scoring a great century at Lords in a one day final (which Kent lost)
  • Riviera said:

    Bernard Julien was a West Indian all rounder who bowled medium fast left arm. He played a few Tests in the early to mid 70's and in the 1975 World Cup final. He joined Packer and although he was still under contract to Kent did not return in 1977 because he thought he would be sacked. Kent however, unlike counties like Warwickshire who sacked Dennis Amiss (re-instated after a leagal battle), kept their Packer playes; Knott, Underwood and Woolmer.

    Not forgetting the aforementioned Asif Iqbal too.
  • Has this morphed into the Kent forum ?!
  • if kent gets mentioned again start flagging
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  • lolwray said:

    if kent gets mentioned again start flagging

    Younis Ahmed. Another overseas player who played long enough to earn a benefit :smile:
  • Is it just me or has Rob Key actually slimmed down since his retirement?
  • LenGlover said:

    lolwray said:

    if kent gets mentioned again start flagging

    Younis Ahmed. Another overseas player who played long enough to earn a benefit :smile:
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    LenGlover said:

    lolwray said:

    if kent gets mentioned again start flagging

    Younis Ahmed. Another overseas player who played long enough to earn a benefit :smile:
    I think he got to represent England eventually. ..I maybe getting him confused with monty lynch. ..anyway I give you intakhab alam ☺



  • Wondered if this thread was to help Amir Khan decide who to represent at the Olympics
  • Is it just me or has Rob Key actually slimmed down since his retirement?

    He has.
  • He will probably prove me wrong but how the hell does The Snail get into the Yorks T20 side?
  • Out for 24 off 23 of which he scored 14 off 3 balls so just 10 off the other 20.

    Bresnan and Plunkett follow him and must wonder what they've done wrong.
  • Plunkett 34 (10) and Bresnan 29 (13) for 61 in 18 balls
  • He will probably prove me wrong but how the hell does The Snail get into the Yorks T20 side?

    If i didnt know you better AA, i would have said that you're not a great admirer of Gary Ballance.? !
  • He will probably prove me wrong but how the hell does The Snail get into the Yorks T20 side?

    If i didnt know you better AA, i would have said that you're not a great admirer of Gary Ballance.? !
    TP - Would you pick him for the Surrey four day side let alone T20 side?
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