Pope was poor most of last year. Had 2 or three good performances near the end but 1 million is good return. Now if we sell Henderson and leave us short, then that would be crazy
More like 6 or 7. 1m is a current reflection on ability but katrien miere doesn't seem to consider potential in negotiations. He has potential and keeps a lot of clean sheets with the league positions of the teams we have loaned him to significantly improving with him in the team. Like katrien, I'm no CEO! I havent negotiated a transfer before but surely potential is factored into the fee? Or am I wrong
Agreed, don't think he has an interest playing for this regime. The interview showed he cared for the club. I don't blame any of them from walking away
Really??? Yes we are mid fire sale but Wimbledon, Shrewsbury, Oldham can only dream of players like solly, Holmes, Novak etc. Yes it's disappointing but players will come in. Promotion, no! Relegation, no. Upper mid table, yes
Yes, really. We're in the middle of a fire sale and there'll be others gone by the end of the window. Tex, Bauer, Lookman, Watt will all go, I reckon and replaced with ??? We'll have a small squad and when injuries bite and with no emergency loans, it all points to one thing ... Disaster. I'm usually a glass half full person but as @oohaahmortimer would say Promotion 0% Mid table 50% Relegation 50%
I want to be optimistic and say we have a keeper lined up......we all know that this isn't the case
Sam Walker from Colchester is what I've heard, But how true that is I don't know.
A club like Charlton can't stop a young player like Pope moving to the prem sorry it's not going to happen but what we can do is get a decent fee and it looks like we have again with a sell on clause
Of course you can. You just reject the offer and tell him to get on with it.
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There's a button for that Elfs.
I know but I do not want to add to his total!
I was going to locate you at Bury and buy you a pint at Bury as well.
Mine's a large dry white wine! Will be at Bury with Elfs
Wow... Southend United have signed Simon Cox (Out of Contract) from Reading.
Thats a really good signing for them, someone who hasn't scored lots of goals yet last time he was in League One he scored 46 goals over around 80-games
Wow... Southend United have signed Simon Cox (Out of Contract) from Reading.
Thats a really good signing for them, someone who hasn't scored lots of goals yet last time he was in League One he scored 46 goals over around 80-games
Wow... Southend United have signed Simon Cox (Out of Contract) from Reading.
Thats a really good signing for them, someone who hasn't scored lots of goals yet last time he was in League One he scored 46 goals over around 80-games
Would have loved him at the Valley!!
Southend have a proper CEO.
Southend have more ambition! Seriously starting to think that lessons haven't been learnt with this lot, balancing the book is the only ambition they have.
Wow... Southend United have signed Simon Cox (Out of Contract) from Reading.
Thats a really good signing for them, someone who hasn't scored lots of goals yet last time he was in League One he scored 46 goals over around 80-games
Would have loved him at the Valley!!
Southend have a proper CEO.
Southend have more ambition! Seriously starting to think that lessons haven't been learnt with this lot, balancing the book is the only ambition they have.
That has always been and still is their only strategy.
Wow... Southend United have signed Simon Cox (Out of Contract) from Reading.
Thats a really good signing for them, someone who hasn't scored lots of goals yet last time he was in League One he scored 46 goals over around 80-games
If we are serious about emulating the promotion season under Powell we should be identifying some of the best L1 players from last season and getting them signed up.
We made a good start with Ajose and Novak.
Next, I'd like to see us go after Marcus Maddison from Peterborough.
We're nowhere near the level of recruitment of that off season. Three players signed so far and plenty more leaving. Not a chance are we even competing for the playoffs as it stands.
Don't forget no loans after August this season so the squad needs to be in place. So no plugging the gaps.
I'm sure Roland is well aware of that....
All we've done under this ownership is plug gaps. And that all we will continue to do. I'd be absolutely amazed if we managed to muster a top half finish.
This. Expect more signings of ageing, crocked journeymen on short-term contracts with young players that aren't good enough.
Wow... Southend United have signed Simon Cox (Out of Contract) from Reading.
Thats a really good signing for them, someone who hasn't scored lots of goals yet last time he was in League One he scored 46 goals over around 80-games
Would have loved him at the Valley!!
We've got enough cox already.
One min your moaning about washed up free transfer etc etc then you want Simon Cox there a reason he is at Southend , let you work it out
Pope was poor most of last year. Had 2 or three good performances near the end but 1 million is good return. Now if we sell Henderson and leave us short, then that would be crazy
More like 6 or 7. 1m is a current reflection on ability but katrien miere doesn't seem to consider potential in negotiations. He has potential and keeps a lot of clean sheets with the league positions of the teams we have loaned him to significantly improving with him in the team. Like katrien, I'm no CEO! I havent negotiated a transfer before but surely potential is factored into the fee? Or am I wrong
Henderson injury prone you need a better fitter keeper
One thing that seems to be emerging is that Slade has about as much influence on player movement as Powell, Riga, Peeters, Luzon, and Fraeye. The regime throw the managers a few crumbs like Vetokele or Kashi or Ajose and then compel them to use desperate loans or unready youngsters. If there is to be any hope then a convincing narrative that Slade is in charge in a completely different way to previous managers then he needs a meaningful budget and autonomy over arrivals and to an extent departures. Older lifers might know what I mean by saying Slade needs his 'clause four' moment. The only other refuge for fans is to see wins, however they happen, luck, fluke, dominate, overwhelm I don't care, but wins are the only acceptable diet...oh and promotion. The current vibe for me is a nice innocent man who is dancing to the same old tune, presumably for the money. The darker interpretation is that Slade is gung ho complicit with this regime.
As football fans we are inherently optimistic, everyone thinks this could be their year and mistakes of the past are easily forgotten/overlooked. It takes a lot to destroy that, there may even be an optimistic Blackpool supporter somewhere, although I doubt it. As for us most of that optimism has been obliterated over the last few seasons, then Ajose etc came along and even the most sceptical among us saw a glimmer of hope, but now that seems an age ago as they have reverted to type.
If they cared about what the supporters think then they need an urgent bit of good news.
Wow... Southend United have signed Simon Cox (Out of Contract) from Reading.
Thats a really good signing for them, someone who hasn't scored lots of goals yet last time he was in League One he scored 46 goals over around 80-games
Would have loved him at the Valley!!
We've got enough cox already.
One min your moaning about washed up free transfer etc etc then you want Simon Cox there a reason he is at Southend , let you work it out
Southend get Cox we get Ajose
Simon Cox is 29-years old... He left Reading simply because he wasnt offered a new deal and am shocked he's dropped to League One because he's been played 35+ appearances in the Championship for four years now!!... Only four years ago he was playing in the Premier League, the reason his goals dried up was because he's been played out wide too often rather as the main Striker.
Yes we've got Nicky Ajose but you dont put your eggs into one basket!!
One thing that seems to be emerging is that Slade has about as much influence on player movement as Powell, Riga, Peeters, Luzon, and Fraeye. The regime throw the managers a few crumbs like Vetokele or Kashi or Ajose and then compel them to use desperate loans or unready youngsters. If there is to be any hope then a convincing narrative that Slade is in charge in a completely different way to previous managers then he needs a meaningful budget and autonomy over arrivals and to an extent departures. Older lifers might know what I mean by saying Slade needs his 'clause four' moment. The only other refuge for fans is to see wins, however they happen, luck, fluke, dominate, overwhelm I don't care, but wins are the only acceptable diet...oh and promotion. The current vibe for me is a nice innocent man who is dancing to the same old tune, presumably for the money. The darker interpretation is that Slade is gung ho complicit with this regime.
You seem to be determined to micro analyse every event or transfer as evidence of some failing of RD. In this instance we really do need to wait until the final (or near final) squad is in place. I don't get the references by some that RD is in sme way trying to extract value from the club. You just don't make meaningful returns in most cases of football ownership, there will be a budget that Slade knows to work within.
Players always leave and indeed should as the collective result was relegation.
The domino effect and brinkmanship at all clubs in negotiations means many transfers go to the wire of deadline day. It's not healthy but is the reality.
As far as I can see Slade is determining the players and KM holds the purse strings - some deals come off and some don't.
A million for Pope if true is a good deal based on his perceived ability by many on here - he didn't consistently inspire confidence in us all.
Wow... Southend United have signed Simon Cox (Out of Contract) from Reading.
Thats a really good signing for them, someone who hasn't scored lots of goals yet last time he was in League One he scored 46 goals over around 80-games
Would have loved him at the Valley!!
We've got enough cox already.
One min your moaning about washed up free transfer etc etc then you want Simon Cox there a reason he is at Southend , let you work it out
Southend get Cox we get Ajose
Simon Cox is 29-years old... He left Reading simply because he wasnt offered a new deal and am shocked he's dropped to League One because he's been played 35+ appearances in the Championship for four years now!!... Only four years ago he was playing in the Premier League, the reason his goals dried up was because he's been played out wide too often rather as the main Striker.
Yes we've got Nicky Ajose but you dont put your eggs into one basket!!
If you only have one egg then you don't even need a basket.
One thing that seems to be emerging is that Slade has about as much influence on player movement as Powell, Riga, Peeters, Luzon, and Fraeye. The regime throw the managers a few crumbs like Vetokele or Kashi or Ajose and then compel them to use desperate loans or unready youngsters. If there is to be any hope then a convincing narrative that Slade is in charge in a completely different way to previous managers then he needs a meaningful budget and autonomy over arrivals and to an extent departures. Older lifers might know what I mean by saying Slade needs his 'clause four' moment. The only other refuge for fans is to see wins, however they happen, luck, fluke, dominate, overwhelm I don't care, but wins are the only acceptable diet...oh and promotion. The current vibe for me is a nice innocent man who is dancing to the same old tune, presumably for the money. The darker interpretation is that Slade is gung ho complicit with this regime.
You seem to be determined to micro analyse every event or transfer as evidence of some failing of RD. In this instance we really do need to wait until the final (or near final) squad is in place. I don't get the references by some that RD is in sme way trying to extract value from the club. You just don't make meaningful returns in most cases of football ownership, there will be a budget that Slade knows to work within.
Players always leave and indeed should as the collective result was relegation.
The domino effect and brinkmanship at all clubs in negotiations means many transfers go to the wire of deadline day. It's not healthy but is the reality.
As far as I can see Slade is determining the players and KM holds the purse strings - some deals come off and some don't.
A million for Pope if true is a good deal based on his perceived ability by many on here - he didn't consistently inspire confidence in us all.
I see my post as broad brush observation, not micro analysis.
A new manager has seen his squad play three friendlies so far. He will know the shape of the team he wants and whether existing players can fit.
He will have been given a budget to work with. Give him a chance to do his job and see what his squad is before the first game.
Unfortunately the club has always sold popular players to balance the books. No difference now and much like every other club in the country.
This is a rumours thread not a speculation one. You don't know the financial aspects of transfer deals so why get upset at guesses from blogs and journalists?
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I think the club have not liked him speaking from the heart in what was an interview where he did not savage the club, but purely showed he cared.
Thats a really good signing for them, someone who hasn't scored lots of goals yet last time he was in League One he scored 46 goals over around 80-games
Would have loved him at the Valley!!
Nice one : - (
Like i said we've got enough cox......
The regime throw the managers a few crumbs like Vetokele or Kashi or Ajose and then compel them to use desperate loans or unready youngsters.
If there is to be any hope then a convincing narrative that Slade is in charge in a completely different way to previous managers then he needs a meaningful budget and autonomy over arrivals and to an extent departures.
Older lifers might know what I mean by saying Slade needs his 'clause four' moment.
The only other refuge for fans is to see wins, however they happen, luck, fluke, dominate, overwhelm I don't care, but wins are the only acceptable diet...oh and promotion.
The current vibe for me is a nice innocent man who is dancing to the same old tune, presumably for the money.
The darker interpretation is that Slade is gung ho complicit with this regime.
If they cared about what the supporters think then they need an urgent bit of good news.
Yes we've got Nicky Ajose but you dont put your eggs into one basket!!
Players always leave and indeed should as the collective result was relegation.
The domino effect and brinkmanship at all clubs in negotiations means many transfers go to the wire of deadline day. It's not healthy but is the reality.
As far as I can see Slade is determining the players and KM holds the purse strings - some deals come off and some don't.
A million for Pope if true is a good deal based on his perceived ability by many on here - he didn't consistently inspire confidence in us all.
He will have been given a budget to work with. Give him a chance to do his job and see what his squad is before the first game.
Unfortunately the club has always sold popular players to balance the books. No difference now and much like every other club in the country.
This is a rumours thread not a speculation one. You don't know the financial aspects of transfer deals so why get upset at guesses from blogs and journalists?