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Slade - Charlton "miles away" from a squad to challenge at the top

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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    If some of that budget is paying Kashi and Bauer (I believe come back when I see it) - then it could be dead money anyway!
  • BDL
    BDL Posts: 6,001
    "We've learnt our lessons".

    Yeah right.

    A Leopard does not change its spots.
  • All_Thaid_Up
    All_Thaid_Up Posts: 2,293
    The signings were to boost season ticket sales, nothing more than that. We all knew certain players would leave, I dont think for one min any of us would expect to let 3 keepers go (henderson we all assumed would).
  • Fiiiiiish
    Fiiiiiish Posts: 1,671
    Oh dear, so here we are again. Under resourced and under financed, going into a crucial season.

    We simply cannot afford to spend time in this league whilst more super rich championship clubs either have mega premiership parachute payments or get bought by wealthy owners, making the gap in league positions grow or survival in the league even harder, if you have an incompetent owner and CEO.

    When they got Slade it was an intention that his experience would finally help see what a squad should look like.

    Step forward 6 weeks later and we are at least 5 or 6 short without a senior goalkeeper.....

    You couldn't make it up
  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,338
    Don't forget, our 'top six budget' includes the wages of an Angolan international striker, exciting French CB prospect that cost £1.5m, and highly rated Scottish striker that scored against Barcelona.

    It's just that we've had to budget to pay for them to play for other clubs.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    I doubt keeper will be our biggest issue - one signing (loan even) will solve that. Midfield is relegation standard! Depth is awful! These need to be sorted sooner rather than later!
  • All_Thaid_Up
    All_Thaid_Up Posts: 2,293
    It wasn't that long ago we were arguing over a Squad size of 22-25 being big enough, oh those heady days!
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026
    johnny73 said:

    This is thoroughly predictable. I would guess that we do have a top six budget but that was never going to be enough.
    In that budget we would be including players we have loaned out.
    We've sold some of our best players but kept many that are not up to the job (Johnson). Obviously their wages are still on the books.
    We are in league 1 or lower until this regime has gone.

    Things that we have a top six of:

    - CEO's nose length
    - Ducktape stockpile
    - Situations vacant
    - Advertising Standards complaints
    - Oystercards
  • PassItToLeaburn
    PassItToLeaburn Posts: 1,457

    If some of that budget is paying Kashi and Bauer (I believe come back when I see it) - then it could be dead money anyway!

    Even worse, it's going on paying Sarr and Watt!
  • Godstone said:

    We knew we were down in April. We knew we would need new players as lots would go. It is now 24th July.

    I honestly thought when we signed Ajose that the owners had learnt their lesson but clearly I have been naive yet again.

    I see similarities with persuading Gudmundson to sign a new contract before last season. He signed expecting to be surrounded by a promotion quality squad, only to find that he was the star man in a grossly under resourced squad that ultimately got relegated. Sadly I think Ajose could find himself in a similar situation. Eventually, as word gets out, they will find it impossible to sign any decent players.
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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    The sad truth is we have a squad to challenge for the bottom 4
    (as of 23/7/16)
  • jamescafc
    jamescafc Posts: 1,831
    Slade seems to be in a very similar position to Bruce at Hull albeit two divisions lower.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Why isn't Slade being given the money raised from Cousins, Gudmundsson and Pope to bring players in?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    Or some of it. Powell managed to fund our promotion push on the proceeds of Jenkinson's £1m sale to Arsenal!
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127

    Or some of it. Powell managed to fund our promotion push on the proceeds of Jenkinson's £1m sale to Arsenal!

    Exactly.
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    I am sure I remember reading KM said they would give the new manager what he needed to get us out of this league at the first attempt??
  • .

    Anyone who has a season ticket this year is getting exactly what they deserve.

    I certainly hope so, after the crap we've endured in the past few seasons I deserve to be watching a team that's going to win promotion with a record points total, follow up with promotion from the championship and then qualify for the champions league.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited July 2016

    Anyone who has a season ticket this year is getting exactly what they deserve.

    Whilst I agree in principle, and I for one certainly wouldn't even consider buying one (i wouldn't hand over 1 pence to this mob) a lot of people who have brought have stated that they would find it too hard to give up going and it's a social thing etc, etc, - which is fair enough) so they know what they are signing up to and accept it for what it is.

    There are of course sympathisers who live in cloud cuckoo land and think it "will all turn out alright" - it won't.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    edited July 2016

    Anyone who has a season ticket this year is getting exactly what they deserve.

    I think I understand the sentiment behind this but for many people they don't want their club taken away.
    Season ticket and non season ticket holders deserve a properly run club.
    There is a game at the Valley on Tuesday evening, That gives them 57 hours to change the landscape before some people, season ticket holders or not, gather in the West Stand to 'advise' Russell Slade and Katrien Meire.
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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    1StevieG said:

    I am sure I remember reading KM said they would give the new manager what he needed to get us out of this league at the first attempt??

    The first time she have told the truth since time immemorial.
    Trapdoor beckons.
  • FORD
    FORD Posts: 627
    They're selling players to balance the books and I'm not convinced we're finished selling yet. 1, 2 or maybe 3 more. Then we'll be doing our usual attempt to find unattached unfit players in September.

    Has this regime got a clue that sport is about making yourself competitive rather than giving every other team in your league a competitive advantage. Was really thinking we might get out of tho awful league in the next couple of season, sadly starting to worry it might be through relegation rather than promotion. Our only hope is Slade and his experience.

    Waiting for when this statement gets removed or altered as it evidently a pack of lies...top priority is selling! Print it up for a CARD banner!

    http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-charlton-athletic-relegation-to-league-one-3068129.aspx
  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    I'm convinced CAFC spells money laundering in Flemish!
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172

    Anyone who has a season ticket this year is getting exactly what they deserve.

    Nice.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    FORD said:

    They're selling players to balance the books and I'm not convinced we're finished selling yet. 1, 2 or maybe 3 more. Then we'll be doing our usual attempt to find unattached unfit players in September.

    Has this regime got a clue that sport is about making yourself competitive rather than giving every other team in your league a competitive advantage. Was really thinking we might get out of tho awful league in the next couple of season, sadly starting to worry it might be through relegation rather than promotion. Our only hope is Slade and his experience.

    Waiting for when this statement gets removed or altered as it evidently a pack of lies...top priority is selling! Print it up for a CARD banner!

    http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-charlton-athletic-relegation-to-league-one-3068129.aspx

    Everything that comes out of her mouth is a lie. Anybody who believes a word she says, is lying to themself.
  • "our top priority is to put together a squad that can help Charlton Athletic get back into the Championship"

    Going really well so far.

    Slade should just print that article out, highlight the above quote and march into her office.

    If she comes up with more pathetic excuses, he should resign.
  • All_Thaid_Up
    All_Thaid_Up Posts: 2,293
    I would be interested to know what MK Dons and Bolton have done with their squads since relegation, anyone know?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    edited July 2016

    I would be interested to know what MK Dons and Bolton have done with their squads since relegation, anyone know?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016-17_Milton_Keynes_Dons_F.C._season

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016–17_Bolton_Wanderers_F.C._season

    MK Dons don't seem to have made huge changes, but then they were pretty much a League One side with a League One squad budget already.

    Bolton seem similar to us with a lot of players leaving, a couple for decent money and not a great deal coming in (although the players they have signed are solid for this level). They also seem to have a problem with squad balance with relatively few defenders but hundreds of strikers!
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,015
    edited July 2016
    Just had a look and so far from the senior squad at the end of last season we've lost:

    Pope, Henderson, Fanni, Motta, Suk-Young, Cousins, Poyet, JBG, Reza, Watt, Vetokele, Makienok and Sanogo.

    More than a whole team.

    And we've signed 4 senior players to replace them. Crofts, Holmes, Novak and Ajose.

  • All_Thaid_Up
    All_Thaid_Up Posts: 2,293
    se9addick said:

    I would be interested to know what MK Dons and Bolton have done with their squads since relegation, anyone know?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016-17_Milton_Keynes_Dons_F.C._season

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016–17_Bolton_Wanderers_F.C._season

    MK Dons don't seem to have made huge changes, but then they were pretty much a League One side with a League One squad budget already.

    Bolton seem similar to us with a lot of players leaving, a couple for decent money and not a great deal coming in (although the players they have signed are solid for this level). They also seem to have a problem with squad balance with relatively few defenders but hundreds of strikers!
    Thanks for this!