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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,233
    Weegie Addick said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Weegie Addick said:

    Can you confirm it is red, Henry?

    No comment
    Spoilsport.
    I can neither confirm or deny that I'm a spoilsport
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,423
    Christ almighty, it's a mid table (if we manage that, third division teams kit.
    There wasn't this much fuss when the Emmanuels designed Lady Diana's wedding dress.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    seth plum said:

    So with this NDA we have an example of the mindset of these morons.
    What are they afraid of, and what exactly would they do if there was disclosure? Could they demonstrate any loss of some kind, would the design be stolen by Manchester United or North Korea, do they think of themselves as so important?
    Many of those who work at the club have such an inflated view of themselves, and to me this NDA demonstrates that they have such a downer on supporters.
    Charlton Athletic does not trust and indeed hates it's own fans.
    Tony Keohane is chief (the word 'chief' alone says a lot) operations officer to take one example, yet seems a good example of somebody who appears to me to be a complete and utter moron who amazingly thinks he is better than the fans, when in fact he is simply lucky that Katrien is equally moronic to give him a job, it certainly comes across that way to me.
    Non disclosure agreement indeed, or what? What will they do to those who have already seen it, sue?

    It really is not that important but the club want to promote a product in what they consider the best way. Quite rightly. Good luck to them.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Promote a product?
    There are plenty of empty seats at the Valley, maybe that is the product they ought to promote.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,871
    Redrobo said:

    seth plum said:

    So with this NDA we have an example of the mindset of these morons.
    What are they afraid of, and what exactly would they do if there was disclosure? Could they demonstrate any loss of some kind, would the design be stolen by Manchester United or North Korea, do they think of themselves as so important?
    Many of those who work at the club have such an inflated view of themselves, and to me this NDA demonstrates that they have such a downer on supporters.
    Charlton Athletic does not trust and indeed hates it's own fans.
    Tony Keohane is chief (the word 'chief' alone says a lot) operations officer to take one example, yet seems a good example of somebody who appears to me to be a complete and utter moron who amazingly thinks he is better than the fans, when in fact he is simply lucky that Katrien is equally moronic to give him a job, it certainly comes across that way to me.
    Non disclosure agreement indeed, or what? What will they do to those who have already seen it, sue?

    It really is not that important but the club want to promote a product in what they consider the best way. Quite rightly. Good luck to them.
    Yes I can understand that, they have a promotion strategy prepared for today, and don't want its "impact" lessened.

    Whether this level of build up is really necessary is another question...
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,233
    edited July 2017
    Redrobo said:

    seth plum said:

    So with this NDA we have an example of the mindset of these morons.
    What are they afraid of, and what exactly would they do if there was disclosure? Could they demonstrate any loss of some kind, would the design be stolen by Manchester United or North Korea, do they think of themselves as so important?
    Many of those who work at the club have such an inflated view of themselves, and to me this NDA demonstrates that they have such a downer on supporters.
    Charlton Athletic does not trust and indeed hates it's own fans.
    Tony Keohane is chief (the word 'chief' alone says a lot) operations officer to take one example, yet seems a good example of somebody who appears to me to be a complete and utter moron who amazingly thinks he is better than the fans, when in fact he is simply lucky that Katrien is equally moronic to give him a job, it certainly comes across that way to me.
    Non disclosure agreement indeed, or what? What will they do to those who have already seen it, sue?

    It really is not that important but the club want to promote a product in what they consider the best way. Quite rightly. Good luck to them.
    Agree.

    I think the whole NDA thing is being blown up a bit out of proportian.

    Yes, It might have been smoother to have had a "launch" as it was orginally called rather than a "preview" and so no need for the NDA or least asking asking fans not to photograph or comment but for whatever reason that is the way they went.

    I would have just launced it but for some reason it was overcomplicated, perhaps by the delay in actually getting hold of it. Tom from Hummel did mention that some the details caused a problem with the football league.

    The kids there had a great team seeing the kit for the first time and worn by the players and they all get a free photo of themselves with the kit as well as a free shirt as well.

    It will all be revealed soon and then you can say you hate it or love it, whether you'll buy it or not and why and then move on. It's only a kit.

  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,196
    Redrobo said:

    seth plum said:

    So with this NDA we have an example of the mindset of these morons.
    What are they afraid of, and what exactly would they do if there was disclosure? Could they demonstrate any loss of some kind, would the design be stolen by Manchester United or North Korea, do they think of themselves as so important?
    Many of those who work at the club have such an inflated view of themselves, and to me this NDA demonstrates that they have such a downer on supporters.
    Charlton Athletic does not trust and indeed hates it's own fans.
    Tony Keohane is chief (the word 'chief' alone says a lot) operations officer to take one example, yet seems a good example of somebody who appears to me to be a complete and utter moron who amazingly thinks he is better than the fans, when in fact he is simply lucky that Katrien is equally moronic to give him a job, it certainly comes across that way to me.
    Non disclosure agreement indeed, or what? What will they do to those who have already seen it, sue?

    It really is not that important but the club want to promote a product in what they consider the best way. Quite rightly. Good luck to them.
    When a preview is offered, it's usually to build word-of-mouth positivity. In this instance, the people who saw the kit get to tell their friends about what they saw, which helps build a buzz, and increases the interest for when the official launch occurs.

    Sometimes there might be an embargo (slightly different from an NDA but maybe that's just a mixture of terminology in this case) but that's usually so the organisers can manage the timing of the launch and press coverage.

    I've signed a thousand embargo forms over the years, and in this instance, I can see absolutely no reason to embargo or even NDA those who saw it. To me, it makes the club look as though they don't know what they're doing, rather, they are an approximation of a management team kinda guessing their way through and hoping that if they do it confidently enough, nobody will notice that they're making it up as they go along.

    I agree that it's not particularly important what happens to the kit or when we get to see it. But it's important that we have a management team that know how to run a club successfully, and this is yet another indication that this lot are fucking idiots.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,871
    JiMMy 85 said:

    Redrobo said:

    seth plum said:

    So with this NDA we have an example of the mindset of these morons.
    What are they afraid of, and what exactly would they do if there was disclosure? Could they demonstrate any loss of some kind, would the design be stolen by Manchester United or North Korea, do they think of themselves as so important?
    Many of those who work at the club have such an inflated view of themselves, and to me this NDA demonstrates that they have such a downer on supporters.
    Charlton Athletic does not trust and indeed hates it's own fans.
    Tony Keohane is chief (the word 'chief' alone says a lot) operations officer to take one example, yet seems a good example of somebody who appears to me to be a complete and utter moron who amazingly thinks he is better than the fans, when in fact he is simply lucky that Katrien is equally moronic to give him a job, it certainly comes across that way to me.
    Non disclosure agreement indeed, or what? What will they do to those who have already seen it, sue?

    It really is not that important but the club want to promote a product in what they consider the best way. Quite rightly. Good luck to them.
    When a preview is offered, it's usually to build word-of-mouth positivity. In this instance, the people who saw the kit get to tell their friends about what they saw, which helps build a buzz, and increases the interest for when the official launch occurs.

    Sometimes there might be an embargo (slightly different from an NDA but maybe that's just a mixture of terminology in this case) but that's usually so the organisers can manage the timing of the launch and press coverage.

    I've signed a thousand embargo forms over the years, and in this instance, I can see absolutely no reason to embargo or even NDA those who saw it. To me, it makes the club look as though they don't know what they're doing, rather, they are an approximation of a management team kinda guessing their way through and hoping that if they do it confidently enough, nobody will notice that they're making it up as they go along.

    I agree that it's not particularly important what happens to the kit or when we get to see it. But it's important that we have a management team that know how to run a club successfully, and this is yet another indication that this lot are fucking idiots.
    But today is the kit launch day, last night was a "sneak preview", I can understand them not wanting all the selfies to be all over the internet 12 hours before the official launch.

    If they didn't have the event last night, then none of this would have been an issue, but from what Henry said the children there enjoyed themselves, so I don't see the harm caused
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    Was it the club or Hummel who asked for the attendees to sign an NDA?
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  • HarryLime
    HarryLime Posts: 1,295
    JiMMy 85 said:

    Redrobo said:

    seth plum said:

    So with this NDA we have an example of the mindset of these morons.
    What are they afraid of, and what exactly would they do if there was disclosure? Could they demonstrate any loss of some kind, would the design be stolen by Manchester United or North Korea, do they think of themselves as so important?
    Many of those who work at the club have such an inflated view of themselves, and to me this NDA demonstrates that they have such a downer on supporters.
    Charlton Athletic does not trust and indeed hates it's own fans.
    Tony Keohane is chief (the word 'chief' alone says a lot) operations officer to take one example, yet seems a good example of somebody who appears to me to be a complete and utter moron who amazingly thinks he is better than the fans, when in fact he is simply lucky that Katrien is equally moronic to give him a job, it certainly comes across that way to me.
    Non disclosure agreement indeed, or what? What will they do to those who have already seen it, sue?

    It really is not that important but the club want to promote a product in what they consider the best way. Quite rightly. Good luck to them.
    To me, it makes the club look as though they don't know what they're doing, rather, they are an approximation of a management team kinda guessing their way through and hoping that if they do it confidently enough, nobody will notice that they're making it up as they go along.

    I agree that it's not particularly important what happens to the kit or when we get to see it. But it's important that we have a management team that know how to run a club successfully, and this is yet another indication that this lot are fucking idiots.
    Nail on head, JiMMy, nail on head
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    killerandflash said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Redrobo said:

    seth plum said:

    So with this NDA we have an example of the mindset of these morons.
    What are they afraid of, and what exactly would they do if there was disclosure? Could they demonstrate any loss of some kind, would the design be stolen by Manchester United or North Korea, do they think of themselves as so important?
    Many of those who work at the club have such an inflated view of themselves, and to me this NDA demonstrates that they have such a downer on supporters.
    Charlton Athletic does not trust and indeed hates it's own fans.
    Tony Keohane is chief (the word 'chief' alone says a lot) operations officer to take one example, yet seems a good example of somebody who appears to me to be a complete and utter moron who amazingly thinks he is better than the fans, when in fact he is simply lucky that Katrien is equally moronic to give him a job, it certainly comes across that way to me.
    Non disclosure agreement indeed, or what? What will they do to those who have already seen it, sue?

    It really is not that important but the club want to promote a product in what they consider the best way. Quite rightly. Good luck to them.
    When a preview is offered, it's usually to build word-of-mouth positivity. In this instance, the people who saw the kit get to tell their friends about what they saw, which helps build a buzz, and increases the interest for when the official launch occurs.

    Sometimes there might be an embargo (slightly different from an NDA but maybe that's just a mixture of terminology in this case) but that's usually so the organisers can manage the timing of the launch and press coverage.

    I've signed a thousand embargo forms over the years, and in this instance, I can see absolutely no reason to embargo or even NDA those who saw it. To me, it makes the club look as though they don't know what they're doing, rather, they are an approximation of a management team kinda guessing their way through and hoping that if they do it confidently enough, nobody will notice that they're making it up as they go along.

    I agree that it's not particularly important what happens to the kit or when we get to see it. But it's important that we have a management team that know how to run a club successfully, and this is yet another indication that this lot are fucking idiots.
    But today is the kit launch day, last night was a "sneak preview", I can understand them not wanting all the selfies to be all over the internet 12 hours before the official launch.

    If they didn't have the event last night, then none of this would have been an issue, but from what Henry said the children there enjoyed themselves, so I don't see the harm caused
    If you follow the 'logic' through what would the club do if somebody leaked a picture?
    What is the implied threat of an NDA, and is that good publicity?
    Maybe attendees should have also signed an NDA to not leak that they were obliged to sign an NDA.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,818
    whatever it's done, it's certainly got everyone talking about it that's for sure given the hundreds of posts on this thread.

    all a bit of fun really and far too much over the top reaction to it all, we'll all see the kit today and it could be the nicest home kit we've ever had but some will still complain about it.

    my kids can't wait for it.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,829
    Apparently U2 have been flown in to sing the Official Kit Launch Anthem today....
  • HarryLime
    HarryLime Posts: 1,295
    Elthamaddick said:

    whatever it's done, it's certainly got everyone talking about it that's for sure given the hundreds of posts on this thread.

    all a bit of fun really and far too much over the top reaction to it all, we'll all see the kit today and it could be the nicest home kit we've ever had but some will still complain about it.

    my kids can't wait for it.

    If the desired result of the launch/sneak preview was to get around a dozen blokes across London, taking the piss out of the SMT on messageboards, then it can be seen as a success.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,484
    As I said earlier I wouldn't sign an NDA frankly I would find it insulting and heavy handed, ask supporters not to post pictures etc.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    AFKABartram said:

    Apparently U2 have been flown in to sing the Official Kit Launch Anthem today....

    So THATS where the £6M summer budget went !
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    AFKABartram said:

    Apparently U2 have been flown in to sing the Official Kit Launch Anthem today....

    And it's got a cameo appearance on Sunday's new episode of Game Of Thrones.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    HarryLime said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Redrobo said:

    seth plum said:

    So with this NDA we have an example of the mindset of these morons.
    What are they afraid of, and what exactly would they do if there was disclosure? Could they demonstrate any loss of some kind, would the design be stolen by Manchester United or North Korea, do they think of themselves as so important?
    Many of those who work at the club have such an inflated view of themselves, and to me this NDA demonstrates that they have such a downer on supporters.
    Charlton Athletic does not trust and indeed hates it's own fans.
    Tony Keohane is chief (the word 'chief' alone says a lot) operations officer to take one example, yet seems a good example of somebody who appears to me to be a complete and utter moron who amazingly thinks he is better than the fans, when in fact he is simply lucky that Katrien is equally moronic to give him a job, it certainly comes across that way to me.
    Non disclosure agreement indeed, or what? What will they do to those who have already seen it, sue?

    It really is not that important but the club want to promote a product in what they consider the best way. Quite rightly. Good luck to them.
    To me, it makes the club look as though they don't know what they're doing, rather, they are an approximation of a management team kinda guessing their way through and hoping that if they do it confidently enough, nobody will notice that they're making it up as they go along.

    I agree that it's not particularly important what happens to the kit or when we get to see it. But it's important that we have a management team that know how to run a club successfully, and this is yet another indication that this lot are fucking idiots.
    Nail on head, JiMMy, nail on head
    image
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    I am probably not the best one to comment on this as I would not wear a replica shirt if someone gave it to me for free, I am 59 not 12. However this has got anti climax written all over it.

    What a laughing stock the club I love has become, NDA's, FFS!!!
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  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,196
    edited July 2017
    I'd like for someone to post that image on every rare occasion that I say the right thing.
  • Hovi's Biscuit
    Hovi's Biscuit Posts: 1,717
    edited July 2017
    ricky_otto said:

    HarryLime said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Redrobo said:

    seth plum said:

    So with this NDA we have an example of the mindset of these morons.
    What are they afraid of, and what exactly would they do if there was disclosure? Could they demonstrate any loss of some kind, would the design be stolen by Manchester United or North Korea, do they think of themselves as so important?
    Many of those who work at the club have such an inflated view of themselves, and to me this NDA demonstrates that they have such a downer on supporters.
    Charlton Athletic does not trust and indeed hates it's own fans.
    Tony Keohane is chief (the word 'chief' alone says a lot) operations officer to take one example, yet seems a good example of somebody who appears to me to be a complete and utter moron who amazingly thinks he is better than the fans, when in fact he is simply lucky that Katrien is equally moronic to give him a job, it certainly comes across that way to me.
    Non disclosure agreement indeed, or what? What will they do to those who have already seen it, sue?

    It really is not that important but the club want to promote a product in what they consider the best way. Quite rightly. Good luck to them.
    To me, it makes the club look as though they don't know what they're doing, rather, they are an approximation of a management team kinda guessing their way through and hoping that if they do it confidently enough, nobody will notice that they're making it up as they go along.

    I agree that it's not particularly important what happens to the kit or when we get to see it. But it's important that we have a management team that know how to run a club successfully, and this is yet another indication that this lot are fucking idiots.
    Nail on head, JiMMy, nail on head
    image
    She's lying
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    image
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    JiMMy 85 said:

    I'd like for someone to post that image on every rare occasion that I say the right thing.

    We are saving it for the update after the castle tour with Miss USA :wink:
  • Red_in_SE8
    Red_in_SE8 Posts: 5,961
    edited July 2017
    Could it be something to do with selling adverts on the kit launch webpage? The organisations paying a premium for those adverts would expect Charlton to do everything in their power to ensure nothing impacts the traffic to that page in the first few days.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,280
    Dazzler21 said:

    image

    Daz mate I'm not sure you understand the meaning of bespoke! It won't be a catalogue kit
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Hovi's Biscuit said:

    ricky_otto said:

    HarryLime said:

    JiMMy 85 said:

    Redrobo said:

    seth plum said:

    So with this NDA we have an example of the mindset of these morons.
    What are they afraid of, and what exactly would they do if there was disclosure? Could they demonstrate any loss of some kind, would the design be stolen by Manchester United or North Korea, do they think of themselves as so important?
    Many of those who work at the club have such an inflated view of themselves, and to me this NDA demonstrates that they have such a downer on supporters.
    Charlton Athletic does not trust and indeed hates it's own fans.
    Tony Keohane is chief (the word 'chief' alone says a lot) operations officer to take one example, yet seems a good example of somebody who appears to me to be a complete and utter moron who amazingly thinks he is better than the fans, when in fact he is simply lucky that Katrien is equally moronic to give him a job, it certainly comes across that way to me.
    Non disclosure agreement indeed, or what? What will they do to those who have already seen it, sue?

    It really is not that important but the club want to promote a product in what they consider the best way. Quite rightly. Good luck to them.
    To me, it makes the club look as though they don't know what they're doing, rather, they are an approximation of a management team kinda guessing their way through and hoping that if they do it confidently enough, nobody will notice that they're making it up as they go along.

    I agree that it's not particularly important what happens to the kit or when we get to see it. But it's important that we have a management team that know how to run a club successfully, and this is yet another indication that this lot are fucking idiots.
    Nail on head, JiMMy, nail on head
    image
    She's lying
    Ain't no doubt.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    JiMMy 85 said:

    I'd like for someone to post that image on every rare occasion that I say the right thing.

    I'll only need to post it once a year then. :smiley:
  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    Maybe Da Silva was one of the players modelling the kit last night and that's why no one could show pictures etc?
    Would explain the 8am announcement of him signing as if there were pictures shown we would have known he has signed before it had been officially announced.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    will they be wearing crocodile shoes too ?

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