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  • On the day we were nowhere near good enough taking the game as a whole but it has to be said you won't see a goal as unlucky as that this season. Off Foxy's heel looks like it's going wide and then hits a divot and goes in. You just cannot legislate for that I am afraid.
  • Watched it on TV. Terrible, terrible football from us. We really didn't have a clue how to break down Swindon. I don't get to watch many games but Bauer was 'orrible

    On the day we were nowhere near good enough taking the game as a whole but it has to be said you won't see a goal as unlucky as that this season. Off Foxy's heel looks like it's going wide and then hits a divot and goes in. You just cannot legislate for that I am afraid.

    So 2 - 0 then

  • edited November 2016

    masicat said:

    masicat said:

    Here's what a grovelling egg sounds like:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-aALGyCdIk

    Blithering idiot.
    What more exactly do you expect him to say?
    "I take full responsibility for that today, I got it wrong with my team selection"
    So many bloody options and he chose wrong. Surely Lennon in goal and Rudd in midfield was so bloody obvious.
    He had options today. Why not give Aribo a chance? Do you think that was a good starting line up then? Umerah could have started out wide. He could have gone 4-3-3. He could have gone with 3 CB's.
    But no, he chose 3 midfielder with no pace whatsoever.
    I think as ever we call for certain players to be given a chance, and they are all crap. The 11 on the pitch should beat Swindon and they were crap. I'm not a huge Slade fan, but I still blame the team on the pitch. Everyone calling for Hanlan, so on comes Hanlan and he's worse than the other 11. We can only survive with a fit and available squad, i I understand it wasn't the managers fault that he lost his only 4 game changers and was left with cart horses.
    he bought 3 of the CM 4 to the club in the summer, even standing his ground and arguing hard over two of those cart horses in Foley and Crofts. He bought in Pearce who was apparently at fault for the second goal. He has chosen to leave Tex on the bench. He chose to sell THD leaving himself very little LB cover. He chose to sell Harriott, leaving himself very little cover on the wings. He bought Ajose and Novak to the club. This is his team in every way. Sure, he is unlucky with missing players today but that is why, as a manager, you build a squad not just an 11. Not like we were playing one of the better teams in the division.
    I'll do a bit of "in fairness to him," Ajose was here before he got here. THD wanted out, but that was of course, in part because Slade didn't rate him.

    I'm happy for THD, I suspect he's getting vastly superior coaching at Hudds. I bet their coach works on coaching tactics, and technique, and probably the mental side of the game. I suspect he'll be a lot better for the experience. Slade strikes me as the "go out there and kick it around lads" type.

    But to the larger point, completely agree, he's the one who thought that Crofts and a former Right Back Kevin Foley would add nicely to our central midfield which only contained Jacko at the point. He spent money on Pearce when we didn't have a true defensive midfielder or attacking midfielder. And our team does not have patterns of play or ideas in possession. Yes we're slow, but those are things you can work on in training.

    I also think that spending the most money on Jason Pearce was quite silly. That one is subjective, as it sounds like overall he's been pretty good, but going in to the season we were not lacking for center backs, and it's clear at one point he planned to partner Pearce with Johnson, which would be no pace and no footballing ability.
  • SDAddick said:

    masicat said:

    masicat said:

    Here's what a grovelling egg sounds like:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-aALGyCdIk

    Blithering idiot.
    What more exactly do you expect him to say?
    "I take full responsibility for that today, I got it wrong with my team selection"
    So many bloody options and he chose wrong. Surely Lennon in goal and Rudd in midfield was so bloody obvious.
    He had options today. Why not give Aribo a chance? Do you think that was a good starting line up then? Umerah could have started out wide. He could have gone 4-3-3. He could have gone with 3 CB's.
    But no, he chose 3 midfielder with no pace whatsoever.
    I think as ever we call for certain players to be given a chance, and they are all crap. The 11 on the pitch should beat Swindon and they were crap. I'm not a huge Slade fan, but I still blame the team on the pitch. Everyone calling for Hanlan, so on comes Hanlan and he's worse than the other 11. We can only survive with a fit and available squad, i I understand it wasn't the managers fault that he lost his only 4 game changers and was left with cart horses.
    he bought 3 of the CM 4 to the club in the summer, even standing his ground and arguing hard over two of those cart horses in Foley and Crofts. He bought in Pearce who was apparently at fault for the second goal. He has chosen to leave Tex on the bench. He chose to sell THD leaving himself very little LB cover. He chose to sell Harriott, leaving himself very little cover on the wings. He bought Ajose and Novak to the club. This is his team in every way. Sure, he is unlucky with missing players today but that is why, as a manager, you build a squad not just an 11. Not like we were playing one of the better teams in the division.
    I'll do a bit of "in fairness to him," Ajose was here before he got here. THD wanted out, but that was of course, in part because Slade didn't rate him.

    I'm happy for THD, I suspect he's getting vastly superior coaching at Hudds. I bet their coach works on coaching tactics, and technique, and probably the mental side of the game. I suspect he'll be a lot better for the experience. Slade strikes me as the "go out there and kick it around lads" type.

    But to the larger point, completely agree, he's the one who thought that Crofts and a former Right Back Kevin Foley would add nicely to our central midfield which only contained Jacko at the point. He spent money on Pearce when we didn't have a true defensive midfielder or attacking midfielder. And our team does not have patterns of play or ideas in possession. Yes we're slow, but those are things you can work on in training.

    I also think that spending the most money on Jason Pearce was quite silly. That one is subjective, as it sounds like overall he's been pretty good, but going in to the season we were not lacking for center backs, and it's clear at one point he planned to partner Pearce with Johnson, which would be no pace and no footballing ability.
    Think your getting Ajose and Novak confused.

    Ajose was a Slade signing. Novak was already on board.
  • SDAddick said:

    masicat said:

    masicat said:

    Here's what a grovelling egg sounds like:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-aALGyCdIk

    Blithering idiot.
    What more exactly do you expect him to say?
    "I take full responsibility for that today, I got it wrong with my team selection"
    So many bloody options and he chose wrong. Surely Lennon in goal and Rudd in midfield was so bloody obvious.
    He had options today. Why not give Aribo a chance? Do you think that was a good starting line up then? Umerah could have started out wide. He could have gone 4-3-3. He could have gone with 3 CB's.
    But no, he chose 3 midfielder with no pace whatsoever.
    I think as ever we call for certain players to be given a chance, and they are all crap. The 11 on the pitch should beat Swindon and they were crap. I'm not a huge Slade fan, but I still blame the team on the pitch. Everyone calling for Hanlan, so on comes Hanlan and he's worse than the other 11. We can only survive with a fit and available squad, i I understand it wasn't the managers fault that he lost his only 4 game changers and was left with cart horses.
    he bought 3 of the CM 4 to the club in the summer, even standing his ground and arguing hard over two of those cart horses in Foley and Crofts. He bought in Pearce who was apparently at fault for the second goal. He has chosen to leave Tex on the bench. He chose to sell THD leaving himself very little LB cover. He chose to sell Harriott, leaving himself very little cover on the wings. He bought Ajose and Novak to the club. This is his team in every way. Sure, he is unlucky with missing players today but that is why, as a manager, you build a squad not just an 11. Not like we were playing one of the better teams in the division.
    I'll do a bit of "in fairness to him," Ajose was here before he got here. THD wanted out, but that was of course, in part because Slade didn't rate him.

    I'm happy for THD, I suspect he's getting vastly superior coaching at Hudds. I bet their coach works on coaching tactics, and technique, and probably the mental side of the game. I suspect he'll be a lot better for the experience. Slade strikes me as the "go out there and kick it around lads" type.

    But to the larger point, completely agree, he's the one who thought that Crofts and a former Right Back Kevin Foley would add nicely to our central midfield which only contained Jacko at the point. He spent money on Pearce when we didn't have a true defensive midfielder or attacking midfielder. And our team does not have patterns of play or ideas in possession. Yes we're slow, but those are things you can work on in training.

    I also think that spending the most money on Jason Pearce was quite silly. That one is subjective, as it sounds like overall he's been pretty good, but going in to the season we were not lacking for center backs, and it's clear at one point he planned to partner Pearce with Johnson, which would be no pace and no footballing ability.
    Think your getting Ajose and Novak confused.

    Ajose was a Slade signing. Novak was already on board.
    You can never confuse Ajose with Novak.
  • What I wouldn't have given to have Lawrie Wilson in that midfield yesterday.
  • Was there.Novak and ajose just don't cut it in this team. Three of our best players missing meant we were never going to score. Bauer lost his marker for the second but otherwise had a good game. What was sad was the lack of fight in the team and this is all about character and confidence and this comes from the manager. I like Slade and I liked his honesty after the game. WAS THIS A BLIP? PROBABLY.
  • Russel Slade reaffirmed for the umpteenth time this yseason that he is nowhere nearly effing capable of making decent use of the resources at his disposal.
    Evidence item 1: The initial formation with the glacially slow Jackson at the point of a diamond. How the fuck is the poor slow motion old geezer supposed to get about and support the strikers?
    Evidence item 2: No pressing from any midfielders or defenders, they all backed off and backed off until Swindon were in position to shoot from inside the box.
    Evidence item 3: Hoofing long balls up to midget Ajose and slowcoach Novak, with no support.
    Evidence item 4: Doing nothing to change anything in the first half when it was glaringly obvious that Charlton's midfield 4(ish) were completely overrun by Swindon's much younger and swifter 5.
    Evidence item 5: Bringing on big young striker Hanlon at halftime - and playing him out of position on the right, then compounding the fuckwittery by sticking to humping balls at the inadequate strike partnership, making poor Brandon's presence on the park almost entirely redundant.

    Brussels can't be blamed for Fox's bad luck own goal, nor Pearce's gutless culpability for the 2nd goal, nor the referee's blatant choice to not award a penalty for the pull on Hanlan, but he set the team up to fail and endorsed the policy by barely tinkering with a failing plan.

    In short he is loudly, shamelessly declaiming to us that he's a fat complacent chump and we can just go fuck ourselves if we don't like it. Cheeringly he's not even the worst problem at the club we formerly recognised as Charlton Athletic. Happy Birthday Roly keep up the good work "not doing failure". Happy Christmas all on CL panto season looks like it will never end, keep smilin'.

    I still reckon he should be allowed a January transfer window, without the squirrel poking her concorde hooter in the way.
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  • I still reckon he should be allowed a January transfer window, without the squirrel poking her concorde hooter in the way.

    He can have whichever window he likes so long as it is on the 3rd floor or above - defenestration is all he's worth, hopefully his lard won't be quite enough to mitigate his deceleration on reacquaintance with the ground.
  • Russel Slade reaffirmed for the umpteenth time this yseason that he is nowhere nearly effing capable of making decent use of the resources at his disposal.
    Evidence item 1: The initial formation with the glacially slow Jackson at the point of a diamond. How the fuck is the poor slow motion old geezer supposed to get about and support the strikers?
    Evidence item 2: No pressing from any midfielders or defenders, they all backed off and backed off until Swindon were in position to shoot from inside the box.
    Evidence item 3: Hoofing long balls up to midget Ajose and slowcoach Novak, with no support.
    Evidence item 4: Doing nothing to change anything in the first half when it was glaringly obvious that Charlton's midfield 4(ish) were completely overrun by Swindon's much younger and swifter 5.
    Evidence item 5: Bringing on big young striker Hanlon at halftime - and playing him out of position on the right, then compounding the fuckwittery by sticking to humping balls at the inadequate strike partnership, making poor Brandon's presence on the park almost entirely redundant.

    Brussels can't be blamed for Fox's bad luck own goal, nor Pearce's gutless culpability for the 2nd goal, nor the referee's blatant choice to not award a penalty for the pull on Hanlan, but he set the team up to fail and endorsed the policy by barely tinkering with a failing plan.

    In short he is loudly, shamelessly declaiming to us that he's a fat complacent chump and we can just go fuck ourselves if we don't like it. Cheeringly he's not even the worst problem at the club we formerly recognised as Charlton Athletic. Happy Birthday Roly keep up the good work "not doing failure". Happy Christmas all on CL panto season looks like it will never end, keep smilin'.

    I still reckon he should be allowed a January transfer window, without the squirrel poking her concorde hooter in the way.
    But will he get the transfer pass Thomas Driesen?
  • Gary Willmotts?
  • edited November 2016
    Oggy Red said:

    masicat said:

    Here's what a grovelling egg sounds like:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-aALGyCdIk

    Blithering idiot.
    What more exactly do you expect him to say?
    "I take full responsibility for that today, I got it wrong with my team selection"
    So many bloody options and he chose wrong. Surely Lennon in goal and Rudd in midfield was so bloody obvious.
    He had options today. Why not give Aribo a chance? Do you think that was a good starting line up then? Umerah could have started out wide. He could have gone 4-3-3. He could have gone with 3 CB's.

    But no, he chose 3 midfielder with no pace whatsoever.
    And he's started those same 3 together in midfield a number of times already this season.
    We know, the players know, even Slade knows ....... it doesn't work.

    What's your agenda, Slade?

    To enable Kat to sell Lookman in January without being accused of costing us promotion. The plan then will be to rally just enough to avoid relegation.

    All the above is my opinion and not necessarily a factual statement. Nevertheless it will be interesting to review this thread on 13 May.
  • Why play 3-5-2 in the WickesTradepaint/B&Q3 for 2/ Checkmate cup and then play a completely different formation 4 days later when with the players Slade had available, a 3-5-2 formation again wouldn't have been the worst thing to do.

    Saddest thing for me about Saturday - and Lord knows there were many - was watching Chris Solly. Either his knee injury is finally catching up with him, and the end of his career is maybe a lot nearer than any of us hope, or he just doesn't give a **** anymore. (Or maybe it's a bit of both). Either way that wasn't the Chris Solly I have watched for many years playing his heart out for the team. He just looked disinterested and frankly, was one of our worst players, getting caught out of position and making few efforts to get forward.

    Been a great servant to this club and a player we shall always remember fondly. But I don't want to remember him playing like he did yesterday.
  • It's become like a morbid fascination how bad a club can get.
  • Why play 3-5-2 in the WickesTradepaint/B&Q3 for 2/ Checkmate cup and then play a completely different formation 4 days later when with the players Slade had available, a 3-5-2 formation again wouldn't have been the worst thing to do.

    Saddest thing for me about Saturday - and Lord knows there were many - was watching Chris Solly. Either his knee injury is finally catching up with him, and the end of his career is maybe a lot nearer than any of us hope, or he just doesn't give a **** anymore. (Or maybe it's a bit of both). Either way that wasn't the Chris Solly I have watched for many years playing his heart out for the team. He just looked disinterested and frankly, was one of our worst players, getting caught out of position and making few efforts to get forward.

    Been a great servant to this club and a player we shall always remember fondly. But I don't want to remember him playing like he did yesterday.

    He is affected by the poison regime. He has already spoken out against them. Ofcourse he is going to feel demotivated. Other long serving loyal members of staff within the whole club have walked away demotivted. All because of our absent owner and our incompitent CEO. That stupid cow was ready to stab Sols in the back at the end of last season by sending him to the Gills. Also he has without dooubt been affected by that knee injury. It has slowed him down and he is only 25. I really feel for the lad at the moment.
  • Russel Slade reaffirmed for the umpteenth time this yseason that he is nowhere nearly effing capable of making decent use of the resources at his disposal.
    Evidence item 1: The initial formation with the glacially slow Jackson at the point of a diamond. How the fuck is the poor slow motion old geezer supposed to get about and support the strikers?
    Evidence item 2: No pressing from any midfielders or defenders, they all backed off and backed off until Swindon were in position to shoot from inside the box.
    Evidence item 3: Hoofing long balls up to midget Ajose and slowcoach Novak, with no support.
    Evidence item 4: Doing nothing to change anything in the first half when it was glaringly obvious that Charlton's midfield 4(ish) were completely overrun by Swindon's much younger and swifter 5.
    Evidence item 5: Bringing on big young striker Hanlon at halftime - and playing him out of position on the right, then compounding the fuckwittery by sticking to humping balls at the inadequate strike partnership, making poor Brandon's presence on the park almost entirely redundant.

    Brussels can't be blamed for Fox's bad luck own goal, nor Pearce's gutless culpability for the 2nd goal, nor the referee's blatant choice to not award a penalty for the pull on Hanlan, but he set the team up to fail and endorsed the policy by barely tinkering with a failing plan.

    In short he is loudly, shamelessly declaiming to us that he's a fat complacent chump and we can just go fuck ourselves if we don't like it. Cheeringly he's not even the worst problem at the club we formerly recognised as Charlton Athletic. Happy Birthday Roly keep up the good work "not doing failure". Happy Christmas all on CL panto season looks like it will never end, keep smilin'.

    I still reckon he should be allowed a January transfer window, without the squirrel poking her concorde hooter in the way.
    You would say that - you want £20 off me!
  • Why play 3-5-2 in the WickesTradepaint/B&Q3 for 2/ Checkmate cup and then play a completely different formation 4 days later when with the players Slade had available, a 3-5-2 formation again wouldn't have been the worst thing to do.

    Saddest thing for me about Saturday - and Lord knows there were many - was watching Chris Solly. Either his knee injury is finally catching up with him, and the end of his career is maybe a lot nearer than any of us hope, or he just doesn't give a **** anymore. (Or maybe it's a bit of both). Either way that wasn't the Chris Solly I have watched for many years playing his heart out for the team. He just looked disinterested and frankly, was one of our worst players, getting caught out of position and making few efforts to get forward.

    Been a great servant to this club and a player we shall always remember fondly. But I don't want to remember him playing like he did yesterday.

    Solly (and Pearce) were not fit. They both had to have painkilling injections to play.

    So we had 2 unfit & 3 geriatrics in midfield.

    5 out of 10 outfield players, who couldn't keep up with fit young opposition players.

    Plus Novak & Fox who are also painfully slow. So 7 out of 10 with no pace at all.

    Bauer, Ulvestad and Ajose aren't exactly pacy either.

    I wonder why we lost ?
    Blooming heck. When you put it like that, you can see just what a blooming mess this all is.
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  • Why play 3-5-2 in the WickesTradepaint/B&Q3 for 2/ Checkmate cup and then play a completely different formation 4 days later when with the players Slade had available, a 3-5-2 formation again wouldn't have been the worst thing to do.

    Saddest thing for me about Saturday - and Lord knows there were many - was watching Chris Solly. Either his knee injury is finally catching up with him, and the end of his career is maybe a lot nearer than any of us hope, or he just doesn't give a **** anymore. (Or maybe it's a bit of both). Either way that wasn't the Chris Solly I have watched for many years playing his heart out for the team. He just looked disinterested and frankly, was one of our worst players, getting caught out of position and making few efforts to get forward.

    Been a great servant to this club and a player we shall always remember fondly. But I don't want to remember him playing like he did yesterday.

    Solly (and Pearce) were not fit. They both had to have painkilling injections to play.

    So we had 2 unfit & 3 geriatrics in midfield.

    5 out of 10 outfield players, who couldn't keep up with fit young opposition players.

    Plus Novak & Fox who are also painfully slow. So 7 out of 10 with no pace at all.

    Bauer, Ulvestad and Ajose aren't exactly pacy either.

    I wonder why we lost ?
    Blooming heck. When you put it like that, you can see just what a blooming mess this all is.
    And hasn't mentioned Fox;-)

    Ps. I thought he played better than most yesterday


  • Saddest thing for me about Saturday - and Lord knows there were many - was watching Chris Solly. Either his knee injury is finally catching up with him, and the end of his career is maybe a lot nearer than any of us hope, or he just doesn't give a **** anymore. (Or maybe it's a bit of both). Either way that wasn't the Chris Solly I have watched for many years playing his heart out for the team. He just looked disinterested and frankly, was one of our worst players, getting caught out of position and making few efforts to get forward.

    Been a great servant to this club and a player we shall always remember fondly. But I don't want to remember him playing like he did yesterday.

    He's been like that for quite a while now. Still capable of some ok things but not one who is able to carry the ball forward more than a couple of times per match. As for the chugging back for their third goal yesterday.....it wasn't a lack of effort....that was his full speed.
  • Russel Slade reaffirmed for the umpteenth time this yseason that he is nowhere nearly effing capable of making decent use of the resources at his disposal.
    Evidence item 1: The initial formation with the glacially slow Jackson at the point of a diamond. How the fuck is the poor slow motion old geezer supposed to get about and support the strikers?
    Evidence item 2: No pressing from any midfielders or defenders, they all backed off and backed off until Swindon were in position to shoot from inside the box.
    Evidence item 3: Hoofing long balls up to midget Ajose and slowcoach Novak, with no support.
    Evidence item 4: Doing nothing to change anything in the first half when it was glaringly obvious that Charlton's midfield 4(ish) were completely overrun by Swindon's much younger and swifter 5.
    Evidence item 5: Bringing on big young striker Hanlon at halftime - and playing him out of position on the right, then compounding the fuckwittery by sticking to humping balls at the inadequate strike partnership, making poor Brandon's presence on the park almost entirely redundant.

    Brussels can't be blamed for Fox's bad luck own goal, nor Pearce's gutless culpability for the 2nd goal, nor the referee's blatant choice to not award a penalty for the pull on Hanlan, but he set the team up to fail and endorsed the policy by barely tinkering with a failing plan.

    In short he is loudly, shamelessly declaiming to us that he's a fat complacent chump and we can just go fuck ourselves if we don't like it. Cheeringly he's not even the worst problem at the club we formerly recognised as Charlton Athletic. Happy Birthday Roly keep up the good work "not doing failure". Happy Christmas all on CL panto season looks like it will never end, keep smilin'.

    I still reckon he should be allowed a January transfer window, without the squirrel poking her concorde hooter in the way.
    You would say that - you want £20 off me!
    I don't take post dated cheques either.
  • Watched my under 11 boy win 3-2 today.

    More excitement in the 1st 5 mins today than 95 mins on Saturday and I didn't pay or put a lifetimes commitment in.

    I know it's different but you go for the "entertainment", we do not get any...

    In recent years:

    2-0 down at home against Cardiff, incredible game.

    Away at Leicester Danny Haynes wonder strike.

    Chris Powell League 1 season.

    Watt mugging off Nottingham Forrest.

    Recent:

    Beat Coventry 3-0 and ultimately the protest lives longer in the memory.




    Slades football is boring - that isnt the deal though.


    The club is so broken.

  • Oggy Red said:


    What's your agenda, Slade?

    To keep getting a pay cheque at the end of the month, in the knowledge that the club are too clueless/ambitionless to sack him and nobody else is likely to want him. Easy.
  • Watched it on TV. Terrible, terrible football from us. We really didn't have a clue how to break down Swindon. I don't get to watch many games but Bauer was 'orrible

    Yes Bauer did not have a good game! Reports from other games say he's normally solid so that's probably why lost!
  • edited November 2016
    watched in the pub thought that was our worst performance so far - the millwall fans enjoyed the game cheers bruss.
  • edited November 2016
    I think the formation Slade played showed he lacks the tactical intelligence to understand the issues with the side. Now key players were missing and if he tried to counter this and it didn't work, I think we would be treating him far differently. But he picked a team that was always going to fail. The fact is, we have only one midfileder who is any use to us as a starter (Ulvestadt) and the four he picked were an opponent's dream. He needed to find a way of getting width into the side. He has Ba but no inclination to play him.

    Then you might think, if you had a brain that set pieces may be a good way for us to score. We have a player who is well beyond the class of this league who actually gets goals from set pieces! He is fit and Slade won't play him but he plays Pearce who was not fully fit! I want the idiot gone. And I want him gone now!
  • BR3red said:

    Watched my under 11 boy win 3-2 today.

    More excitement in the 1st 5 mins today than 95 mins on Saturday and I didn't pay or put a lifetimes commitment in.

    bit harsh on your son , not committing to his future! :wink:
  • Yes noticed that bit after I posted.

    I had hoped that no one would have picked that up!
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