Karl Robinson (Ed. Page 79 - GONE- Mutual Consent)
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Surely the club and players aren't going ot play for a manager who has resigned, just let him go now2
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or Robinson just held the phone to his ear and there was no one on the other endse9addick said:
Either;MuttleyCAFC said:Why would Roland not let him resign. If you resign you don't get paid off do you?
a) Roland thinks he can hold on a few days and get paid off by Oxford
b) Robinson's resignation was conditional on getting paid out by Roland
c) Roland doesn't like to be told when it's over - he wants to be in control of events0 -
I don't think that bothers RolyJ BLOCK said:Surely the club and players aren't going ot play for a manager who has resigned, just let him go now
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its not just Karl hopefully a few of the players take there stuff and jog on aswell0
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I actually thought about the Roland not responding thing too, but the reports suggest that the resignation offer was actually rejected which means a response of some type I suppose?bertpalmer said:
or Robinson just held the phone to his ear and there was no one on the other endse9addick said:
Either;MuttleyCAFC said:Why would Roland not let him resign. If you resign you don't get paid off do you?
a) Roland thinks he can hold on a few days and get paid off by Oxford
b) Robinson's resignation was conditional on getting paid out by Roland
c) Roland doesn't like to be told when it's over - he wants to be in control of events0 -
You can't really refuse a resignation! You can try and convince the person to stay on, offer a bonus to stay, etc. But legally he can tender his resignation and work his agreed notice period.6
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Is that right even if you're working on a fixed term contract? Unless there's an agreed notice period, which (if it's even there) is probably is tied to the end of the season, wouldn't Robinson be in breach if he just left?cafc-west said:You can't really refuse a resignation! You can try and convince the person to stay on, offer a bonus to stay, etc. But legally he can tender his resignation and work his agreed notice period.
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Robinsons red and white army!3
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Isn't there some rule that if he quit and then went Oxford we claim compensation? Like Dowie with us and Palace.
If that's not the case I would imagine Roland wants Oxford to approach us rather than letting him go and not getting a penny.2 -
Just when you thought our club couldn't get any more bonkers.1
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Just go sickse9addick said:
Is that right even if you're working on a fixed term contract? Unless there's an agreed notice period, which (if it's even there) is probably is tied to the end of the season, wouldn't Robinson be in breach if he just left?cafc-west said:You can't really refuse a resignation! You can try and convince the person to stay on, offer a bonus to stay, etc. But legally he can tender his resignation and work his agreed notice period.
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Well if Robinson publically handed in his notice, I don't think even Duchatelet could keep him on.1
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There's no way Robinson would be able to keep the ruse quiet!shirty5 said:
Just go sickse9addick said:
Is that right even if you're working on a fixed term contract? Unless there's an agreed notice period, which (if it's even there) is probably is tied to the end of the season, wouldn't Robinson be in breach if he just left?cafc-west said:You can't really refuse a resignation! You can try and convince the person to stay on, offer a bonus to stay, etc. But legally he can tender his resignation and work his agreed notice period.
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That's a challenge he could have a go at. He makes an appointment with his GP, saying my job is making me ill and I can't resign. Can you sign me off for a couple of weeks please.se9addick said:
There's no way Robinson would be able to keep the ruse quiet!shirty5 said:
Just go sickse9addick said:
Is that right even if you're working on a fixed term contract? Unless there's an agreed notice period, which (if it's even there) is probably is tied to the end of the season, wouldn't Robinson be in breach if he just left?cafc-west said:You can't really refuse a resignation! You can try and convince the person to stay on, offer a bonus to stay, etc. But legally he can tender his resignation and work his agreed notice period.
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If he resigns and works his contractual notice period - end of story. He is free to go elsewhere. If he resigns and leaves before the end of the notice period then RD can probably approach/sue wherever he goes for compensation.cafcfan1990 said:Isn't there some rule that if he quit and then went Oxford we claim compensation? Like Dowie with us and Palace.
If that's not the case I would imagine Roland wants Oxford to approach us rather than letting him go and not getting a penny.
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I do find it strange why Robinson hasn't mentioned it after either the Blackpool or Fleetwood games
Many fans hate the way Managers angle for a pay out these days and to admit he was willing to waive this in favour of resigning means he was putting the club first... Not to mention he could have passed the buck straight on to Roland as had Robinson resigned ahead of Blackpool, we could have gotten someone like Euell in and may have won these last two games.0 -
So we have a manager who wants to resign.
Two of our best players this season Amos and Da Silva are leaving at the end of the season.
Johnny Jackson is retiring.
Mavadidi plus the rest of the loanees will go.
Several players are out of contract in June.
A few of our better young players like Aribo and Konsa will probably be sold.
No wonder the team is performing as it is.
Nobody gives a fuck anymore.
We are a joke of a football club at the moment.
Just sell the club and FUCK OFF Roland so that we can try and repair the damage you have done to our club.47 -
no, I reckon someone on the previous page had it right in saying that it was conditional on Roland paying up some of his contract. I can't see Roland doing that especially when he may get some sort of fee from another Club, Oxford or someone else even.ForeverAddickted said:I do find it strange why Robinson hasn't mentioned it after either the Blackpool or Fleetwood games
Many fans hate the way Managers angle for a pay out these days and to admit he was willing to waive this in favour of resigning means he was putting the club first... Not to mention he could have passed the buck straight on to Roland as had Robinson resigned ahead of Blackpool, we could have gotten someone like Euell in and may have won these last two games.
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my thoughts are that Robinson wanted to quit and go speak to Oxford. I think this is what both he and Oxford would want. I can only think Roland rejected the resignation hoping Oxford come in to pay compo.cafc-west said:
If he resigns and works his contractual notice period - end of story. He is free to go elsewhere. If he resigns and leaves before the end of the notice period then RD can probably approach/sue wherever he goes for compensation.cafcfan1990 said:Isn't there some rule that if he quit and then went Oxford we claim compensation? Like Dowie with us and Palace.
If that's not the case I would imagine Roland wants Oxford to approach us rather than letting him go and not getting a penny.
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Cheers I didn't see that comment as have skim read a lot of the last few pages, sounds right thoughLargeAddick said:
no, I reckon someone on the previous page had it right in saying that it was conditional on Roland paying up some of his contract. I can't see Roland doing that especially when he may get some sort of fee from another Club, Oxford or someone else even.ForeverAddickted said:I do find it strange why Robinson hasn't mentioned it after either the Blackpool or Fleetwood games
Many fans hate the way Managers angle for a pay out these days and to admit he was willing to waive this in favour of resigning means he was putting the club first... Not to mention he could have passed the buck straight on to Roland as had Robinson resigned ahead of Blackpool, we could have gotten someone like Euell in and may have won these last two games.
The other angle is that Roland isnt as stupid as we think he is... He'll maybe be aware of the Oxford interest and wont want to release his Manager to go join another club without compensation and so have another situation like Diarra0 - Sponsored links:
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Euell didn't want the first team position last time he was offered it on a caretaker basis. Would he take it this time?0
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Apart from that, the future looks brightblackpool72 said:So we have a manager who wants to resign.
Two of our best players this season Amos and Da Silva are leaving at the end of the season.
Johnny Jackson is retiring.
Mavadidi plus the rest of the loanees will go.
Several players are out of contract in June.
A few of our better young players like Aribo and Konsa will probably be sold.
No wonder the team is performing as it is.
Nobody gives a fuck anymore.
We are a joke of a football club at the moment.
Just sell the club and FUCK OFF Roland so that we can try and repair the damage you have done to our club.
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Does anybody make and sell Roland voodoo dolls?0
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Now this is out, he has to go.8
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Have been a Robbo fan but the support for him from me has gone down recently.
I DO think he has done a job under pretty crap circumstances but with that said, the squad he assembled is a play off squad at the very least.
He just cant seem to get the best out of them at least consistently but i think its worse as when we are poor, we are REALLY poor and his reluctance to change tactics when things are not going right is worrying. All the best managers know when its going wrong and make steps to change it.
Personally would let him go and have Euell with Bowyer and Jacko at least until the end of the season.
If the consortium bring there own man after then so be it but keep those 3, all 3 understand the values of Charlton and can only help!7 -
If I was Euell I wouldn't want it eithermoutuakilla said:Euell didn't want the first team position last time he was offered it on a caretaker basis. Would he take it this time?
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Well you can ask - this won't happen of course but I'd ask JJ and Euell if they think they could turn it around with the players at their disposal and give it to the one that seems most convincing! Or the one willing to try
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Yes, if Oxford want Robinson, then they need to pay compensation for him, unless they are prepared to wait for his notice period to finishForeverAddickted said:
Cheers I didn't see that comment as have skim read a lot of the last few pages, sounds right thoughLargeAddick said:
no, I reckon someone on the previous page had it right in saying that it was conditional on Roland paying up some of his contract. I can't see Roland doing that especially when he may get some sort of fee from another Club, Oxford or someone else even.ForeverAddickted said:I do find it strange why Robinson hasn't mentioned it after either the Blackpool or Fleetwood games
Many fans hate the way Managers angle for a pay out these days and to admit he was willing to waive this in favour of resigning means he was putting the club first... Not to mention he could have passed the buck straight on to Roland as had Robinson resigned ahead of Blackpool, we could have gotten someone like Euell in and may have won these last two games.
The other angle is that Roland isnt as stupid as we think he is... He'll maybe be aware of the Oxford interest and wont want to release his Manager to go join another club without compensation and so have another situation like Diarra
After all if the potential Aussie owners bring in Kewell, I'm sure the Crawley owners wouldn't accept him resigning and turning up the next day at Charlton without some sort of compensation0 -
This doesn't smell right. If this is a genuine resignation offer, i.e. I'll go now with no termination fee payable by either party then:
- Roland gets his salary off the wage bill. Roland wins;
- The deal is sweetened for the new owner doesn't have to incur the cost of sacking him. The new owner wins;
- Tarbuck gets to go and talk bollocks and make lots of excuses. The scouser wins.
So it can only be the possibility of earning some compensation from Oxford.
Also, why has Rich Cawley "sat on this for a while". If he offered his resignation before the Blackpool game, so a week ago, why not break the story then? What's happened/changed that makes it okay to break it now but not okay to break it last week. As far as I can see, he's just let the News Shopper steel a march on his "exclusive".
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Well when Robbo when asked if he believed the play offs were possible, and he said more than some - he was clearly not being entirely truthful. Seeing as he had been trying to escape days before! This is really toxic and verging on the ridiculous.2
